Agitator vs Attack Boost..... If you can only have one!

[Fraktal]

Given the higher values on Agitator (ignore the affinity), but its only enabled if the monster is enraged..... is the deeps higher if you have Agi 7 (yes from Agi secret) or Attack Boost 7?

Think of this as an average over an entire fight, I understand individual hits will be harder with Agi 7.

I cannot slot both... well a max of both anyway without giving up other decos that are important to me.

Should I mix and match? Pure Agitator or pure AttBoost?

[𝑅𝒾𝒾𝓃𝒶]

After att 4 you get terrible diminishing returns.
Agitator scales with each level and because of the clunk claw you can force it to be active 99% of the time. Mini-maxing is the way to go.

[cua_bien02]

Always prioritize Agitator, more so 'coz Raging Brachy set is just too good with so many deco slots. Only exception is maybe for Safi run, because he spends quite a large portion of phase 1 and 2 not enraged.

[~KeNnEtH~]

Due to the introduction of clutch claw, it is now possible for us to enrage the monster as and when we want.

So, if you got Iceborne, Agitator is better.

Attack Boost can be left at 4 if you have space for that but Agitator 7 is prioritised after Crit Eye, Weakness Exploit and Critical Boost.

[ZenithM]

Agitator is actually prioritized BEFORE critical eye even. WE, CB, Agitator 7, Attack 4 and then cap off your affinity with Crit Eye (but you typically wouldn't need more than 1 to 3 points).

[Warkrunner]

I will argue that sometimes it's easier to not enrage the monster.
I use attack boost instead of agitator when running crit draw setups on longsword or heavy bowgun.
Otherwise, I use both attack boost and agitator 7 on HH.
Stat priority does matter from weapon to weapon. For elemental setups, maxing your affinity is first priority. Crit boost is desirable once you start getting past 70% affinity, and I only count WEX as a +30% boost realistically.

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Attack Boost is a trap. /end story.

[Crusader]

Agitator by a mile.

But if I already maxed crit eye, crit boost and have safi bonus then yeah attack boost. It’s more consistent and also crit eye + safi bonus 40% is already 80% and if you’re using the safi set you’re using a kjarr weapon more than likely so that’s another atleast 10-20% more affinity therefore agitator actually ends up being less efficient (after you add in agitator 1, if you’re still missing affinity) than attack boost because you’re already at 100% with 4 attack boost and one 1 agi. Taking 3 agi kinda worthless because it’s only an extra 2% which isn’t enough and you need agi 5 for 100% which is honestly way less efficient in this specific case. I’d rather just max out attack boost. This is also assuming i’m going for an elemental build and that i already built in the elemental skill that i need for the weapon to boost the element on it further.

But other than that, agitator any day. Particularly in raw builds because raw builds rely on WEX which is pretty inconsistent compared to safi bonus. Agitator helps close that gap especially with agi secret.

[Fraktal]

Originally posted by 2020 in a nutshell:

Agitator by a mile.

But if I already maxed crit eye, crit boost and have safi bonus then yeah attack boost. It’s more consistent and also crit eye + safi bonus 40% is already 80% and if you’re using the safi set you’re using a kjarr weapon more than likely so that’s another atleast 10-20% more affinity therefore agitator actually ends up being less efficient (after you add in agitator 1) than attack boost because you’re already at 100% with 4 attack boost and one 1 agi. Taking 3 agi kinda worthless because it’s only an extra 2% which isn’t enough and you need agi 5 for 100% which is honestly way less efficient in this specific case. I’d rather just max out attack boost. This is also assuming i’m going for an elemental build and that i already built in the elemental skill that i need for the weapon to boost the element on it further.

But other than that, agitator any day. Particularly in raw builds because raw builds rely on WEX which is pretty inconsistent compared to safi bonus. Agitator helps close that gap especially with agi secret.

I’m digging my Teo/Brachy raw agitator 7 lance.

Debating on trying Safi 5 set with Kjarr elemental lance.

[Crusader]

Originally posted by ZenithM:

Agitator is actually prioritized BEFORE critical eye even. WE, CB, Agitator 7, Attack 4 and then cap off your affinity with Crit Eye (but you typically wouldn't need more than 1 to 3 points).

this is not true.

Crit eye is on 100% of the time agitator is on 90-95% of the time. Not to mention crit eye 7 is way more efficient than agitator 7 deco slottage wise. One of them is 7 tier one slots the other is 7 tier two slots + a two piece set bonus that you can’t get anywhere else on top of all that you only get half of the affinity you get from crit eye when both of them are level 7. That 20 attacks means nothing if you can’t crit. Same with WEX. WEX is really inconsistent. A lot of the monsters have trashy hitzones and you can’t expect to hit the same good spot 100% of the time. Safi’s set bonus is better than crit eye though if you’re going for elemental. It matches the 40% from safi and gives 15 more true element and the healing / damaging effect.

[Crusader]

Originally posted by The Orange and Blue Ninja:

Originally posted by 2020 in a nutshell:

Agitator by a mile.

But if I already maxed crit eye, crit boost and have safi bonus then yeah attack boost. It’s more consistent and also crit eye + safi bonus 40% is already 80% and if you’re using the safi set you’re using a kjarr weapon more than likely so that’s another atleast 10-20% more affinity therefore agitator actually ends up being less efficient (after you add in agitator 1) than attack boost because you’re already at 100% with 4 attack boost and one 1 agi. Taking 3 agi kinda worthless because it’s only an extra 2% which isn’t enough and you need agi 5 for 100% which is honestly way less efficient in this specific case. I’d rather just max out attack boost. This is also assuming i’m going for an elemental build and that i already built in the elemental skill that i need for the weapon to boost the element on it further.

But other than that, agitator any day. Particularly in raw builds because raw builds rely on WEX which is pretty inconsistent compared to safi bonus. Agitator helps close that gap especially with agi secret.

I’m digging my Teo/Brachy raw agitator 7 lance.

Debating on trying Safi 5 set with Kjarr elemental lance.

safi + kjarr is stupid strong for a lot of weapon types I don’t think it’s that amazing on lance though. Unless if you have a really crazy high hitzone on the monster.

[puzzlefox]

Originally posted by ZenithM:

Agitator is actually prioritized BEFORE critical eye even. WE, CB, Agitator 7, Attack 4 and then cap off your affinity with Crit Eye (but you typically wouldn't need more than 1 to 3 points).

For sticky ammo and long GL, sure.
But otherwise, this post is very incorrect.

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Let's not forget the sheer utility you have as a lance. Its by no means a big damage dealer, but I still run Ruinous Perdition simply for elder sealing. Really helps your team.

[The_Lazy_Artist]

Originally posted by 2020 in a nutshell:

Originally posted by ZenithM:

Agitator is actually prioritized BEFORE critical eye even. WE, CB, Agitator 7, Attack 4 and then cap off your affinity with Crit Eye (but you typically wouldn't need more than 1 to 3 points).

this is not true.

Crit eye is on 100% of the time agitator is on 90-95% of the time. Not to mention crit eye 7 is way more efficient than agitator 7 deco slottage wise. One of them is 7 tier one slots the other is 7 tier two slots + a two piece set bonus that you can’t get anywhere else on top of all that you only get half of the affinity you get from crit eye when both of them are level 7. That 20 attacks means nothing if you can’t crit. Same with WEX. WEX is really inconsistent. A lot of the monsters have trashy hitzones and you can’t expect to hit the same good spot 100% of the time. Safi’s set bonus is better than crit eye though if you’re going for elemental. It matches the 40% from safi and gives 15 more true element and the healing / damaging effect.

Doesn't Challenger V charm solve that slottage issue, though? I know I can mix around decos pretty well with it.

[Just Life]

Originally posted by The_Lazy_Artist:

Originally posted by 2020 in a nutshell:

this is not true.

Crit eye is on 100% of the time agitator is on 90-95% of the time. Not to mention crit eye 7 is way more efficient than agitator 7 deco slottage wise. One of them is 7 tier one slots the other is 7 tier two slots + a two piece set bonus that you can’t get anywhere else on top of all that you only get half of the affinity you get from crit eye when both of them are level 7. That 20 attacks means nothing if you can’t crit. Same with WEX. WEX is really inconsistent. A lot of the monsters have trashy hitzones and you can’t expect to hit the same good spot 100% of the time. Safi’s set bonus is better than crit eye though if you’re going for elemental. It matches the 40% from safi and gives 15 more true element and the healing / damaging effect.

Doesn't Challenger V charm solve that slottage issue, though? I know I can mix around decos pretty well with it.

Some weapons like Bows use the charm slot for +Elemental Damage charms so fitting in Challenger is much harder.

[mewlynx]

Agitator because more affinity. I use light weapons so I slap the monster in the face a lot more (higher rage up-time).