Jhen Mohran

[Preacher JLU]

This was by far one of my fav monsters and fight in other MH games. I really hope it makes an appearance in MHW!

For those of you not familiar with Jhen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjBA6p1zunw

[Aηgєℓ∂υѕт]

same thoughts here!

[Manticore]

Speaking of cool very large monster, how about Dire Miralis and Dalamadur..
But my personal favorite is perhaps Gogmazios, he looks scary and cool in same time..

[Juliane_L]

the probability of seeing jhen in Iceborne is of 0%. but i agree he's cool, what zorah (at least the normal one, AT was great) failed to be.

[JPM岩]

The Mohrans and Dalamadur would be cool to see return, I love being able to climb up their backs.

Originally posted by Juliane_L:

the probability of seeing jhen in Iceborne is of 0%. but i agree he's cool, what zorah (at least the normal one, AT was great) failed to be.

I feel we can genuinely blame the Japanese playerbase for Zorah, because they LOOOOOVE Lao Shen Lung for some ungodly reason.

[Juliane_L]

Originally posted by JPM岩:

The Mohrans and Dalamadur would be cool to see return, I love being able to climb up their backs.

Originally posted by Juliane_L:

the probability of seeing jhen in Iceborne is of 0%. but i agree he's cool, what zorah (at least the normal one, AT was great) failed to be.

I feel we can genuinely blame the Japanese playerbase for Zorah, because they LOOOOOVE Lao Shen Lung for some ungodly reason.

wasn't ashen lao shen lung the worst subspecies ever? (i mean the least different)

[Ortaign]

Zorah Magdaros is garbage, but I would take Lao Shan Lung over him any day, somehow they've managed to make Lao Shan Lung look like a tasteful palette cleanser in the face the steaming pile of bull poo that is Zorah Magdaros. Zorah is by far the worst possible monster they could've created, Zorah Magdaros is impressive on that front

[Fat Pigeon]

Originally posted by Juliane_L:

Originally posted by JPM岩:

The Mohrans and Dalamadur would be cool to see return, I love being able to climb up their backs.


I feel we can genuinely blame the Japanese playerbase for Zorah, because they LOOOOOVE Lao Shen Lung for some ungodly reason.

wasn't ashen lao shen lung the worst subspecies ever? (i mean the least different)

Both Lao were boring 15+ minute solo kills cause their high hp (40-64k~) compared to other elder dragon who often had 9-18k~ , both were only running toward their goal and roaring sometimes...

I have no clue how Lao Shan can have such a huge fanbase compared to other siege monster.

But its still better then Zorah

[Juliane_L]

Originally posted by Ortaign:

Zorah Magdaros is garbage, but I would take Lao Shan Lung over him any day, somehow they've managed to make Lao Shan Lung look like a tasteful palette cleanser in the face the steaming pile of bull poo that is Zorah Magdaros. Zorah is by far the worst possible monster they could've created, Zorah Magdaros is impressive on that front

Originally posted by Fat Pigeon | Taubenmett:

Originally posted by Juliane_L:

wasn't ashen lao shen lung the worst subspecies ever? (i mean the least different)

Both Lao were boring 15+ minute solo kills cause their high hp (40-64k~) compared to other elder dragon who often had 9-18k~ , both were only running toward their goal and roaring sometimes...

I have no clue how Lao Shan can have such a huge fanbase compared to other siege monster.

But its still better then Zorah

AT zorah was pretty good IMO.

[Manticore]

Originally posted by Juliane_L:

AT zorah was pretty good IMO.

I honestly still don't like him even his AT version, idk it's just all same thing like before except this time we have to driving out nergi and the time limit now becomes the real monster to slay.
Only doing it for tickets and then never touch it again, but still not as worst as AT Kushala back then..

[TormentedSalad]

Can someone actually explain why people like this stupid sand whale so much I never got to actually play 3U because 4U was coming out soon after i took interest and i didnt have a wiiU but i fought dahren and i cant imagine they are all that much different. Dahren was actually less enjoyable than watching paint dry honestly 4U would of been even better had it not been in the game.

I can never understand why people seem to hate zorah more he was bigger it felt more important and we even had to fight another monster on his back (I know you dont have to but ♥♥♥♥ i did the first time fighting it).

[Zhou Yu]

Originally posted by TormentedSalad (Dan):

Can someone actually explain why people like this stupid sand whale so much I never got to actually play 3U because 4U was coming out soon after i took interest and i didnt have a wiiU but i fought dahren and i cant imagine they are all that much different. Dahren was actually less enjoyable than watching paint dry honestly 4U would of been even better had it not been in the game.

I can never understand why people seem to hate zorah more he was bigger it felt more important and we even had to fight another monster on his back (I know you dont have to but ♥♥♥♥ i did the first time fighting it).

It felt like you were hunting a big ass whale on a rickety old ship with cannons and harpoons. But the whale was also trying to murder you, the only defense you had was the big dragonator on the front of the ship. So during Jhen’s charge towards you, you gotta hold off till he’s point blank before launching a counter offensive. Not to mention the end bit is basically defending the gates of Loc Lac from Jhen as the city is under constant siege from his sandstorms alone. Or if you’re like me and started with 3 Ultimate then you’re actually using the ruins of Loc Lac as a holdout to try to murder Jhen instead.

[CourtesyFlush09]

The problem with these types of fights is that they're fun the first 5 times. They quickly lose their charm after that.

[Gros Toton]

Jhen Mohran had the sense of speed as the sandship is going through the great desert sea FAST.
-the music being loud and mighty gives you a sense of urgency that made the whole quest amazing, and Jhen's iconic loud-sounding scream as you manage to break it's part.
-climbing on the monster being a TEMPORARY situation as Jhen will eventually get sick of it and knock you off.
-the dragonator being a tool for survival against Jhen's charge, giving veterans a chance to show off as they know when to time it and teach the new hunters.


and then you have Zorah, a monster that doesn't care you're on it
-the slow crawl of climbing
-speed being non existent in the setting
-the map is just a big cavern with lava
-the music being so tame
-it's only "attacks" being accidental lava farts
-it's scream being muffled OWs as you break parts
-an external source like nergigante needing to come to add some spice (and also the only living thing Zorah actually tries to harm)

both final parts are similar, you're on a ship/wall using cannons and ballista.
whoever, with Mohran you can just ditch the ship and whack it's ass with your own weapons, Zorah you can't. yes you can climb on it's head to attack it, but it's so clumsy up there, and most of the time you'll get knocked off by binders anyway or the quest will end before you can get that sense of empowerment, and again, the dragonator is more of a damage dealer than a survival tool compared to Mohran because the overabundance of binders with Zorah.

AND when you use the dragonator in the 2nd part, that booming fantastic theme start playing the moment the drill connect with Mohran, giving you a blast of energy.
Zorah's tho. MHW's dragonator theme sound so softer compared to Tri because the sound mixing doesn't give it the edge it need to create that "pop", it just start playing, instead of exploding.

Jhen and Zorah are day and night in contrast to each other (and yes, AT Zorah is a significant step up because of it's massive health pool and damage, but a number boost cannot match craft)

and i don't hate the Zorah fight, it just lack meat with it's atmosphere, a lot of it.

[TormentedSalad]

Originally posted by Zhou Yu:

Originally posted by TormentedSalad (Dan):

Can someone actually explain why people like this stupid sand whale so much I never got to actually play 3U because 4U was coming out soon after i took interest and i didnt have a wiiU but i fought dahren and i cant imagine they are all that much different. Dahren was actually less enjoyable than watching paint dry honestly 4U would of been even better had it not been in the game.

I can never understand why people seem to hate zorah more he was bigger it felt more important and we even had to fight another monster on his back (I know you dont have to but ♥♥♥♥ i did the first time fighting it).

It felt like you were hunting a big ass whale on a rickety old ship with cannons and harpoons. But the whale was also trying to murder you, the only defense you had was the big dragonator on the front of the ship. So during Jhen’s charge towards you, you gotta hold off till he’s point blank before launching a counter offensive. Not to mention the end bit is basically defending the gates of Loc Lac from Jhen as the city is under constant siege from his sandstorms alone. Or if you’re like me and started with 3 Ultimate then you’re actually using the ruins of Loc Lac as a holdout to try to murder Jhen instead.

its overhyped i watched the video up there theres no major difference from the one in 4U and i will point out dahren is the only monster who has actually been such a bore i fell asleep fighting it i've nearly dozed of fighting fatalis and lao but never actually fell asleep

[JPM岩]

Originally posted by Juliane_L:

Originally posted by JPM岩:

The Mohrans and Dalamadur would be cool to see return, I love being able to climb up their backs.


I feel we can genuinely blame the Japanese playerbase for Zorah, because they LOOOOOVE Lao Shen Lung for some ungodly reason.

wasn't ashen lao shen lung the worst subspecies ever? (i mean the least different)

Almost all subspecies in past games were the exact same fight as their base. There were slight differences, like Lagi and Ivory, or Zinogre and Stygian, but it wasnt until 4U did we have drastically different subs. Shrouded Nercylla, Tigerstripe Zam, Beserk Tetsucabra, Tidal Narjarala, Ask Kecha Wacha, etc. World tho updated a ton of subs to behave differently, Blos and Blac, Los/Ian with Azure/Pink, etc.