How rare is Silver Rathalos Essence on Safijiva Weapons

[Pro-health tea drinker [TH]]

i've upgraded like 100 of those Dracolite and haven't got it yet

is it rare? or maybe i have a bad luck.

[GameSuki]

Is your awakened level high enough?

[Nine]

Pretty rare, but why would you even want it? It's just outright worse than taking another elemental awaken.

[Pro-health tea drinker [TH]]

Originally posted by Nine:

Pretty rare, but why would you even want it? It's just outright worse than taking another elemental awaken.

just try new stuff

[Greb]

It's 5-Star in terms of quality but honestly I don't think anything is any rarer than the other, myself. I've seen Teostra's Technique and Gold / Silver Essence, Shara Divinity, etc etc all pop up a lot while trying to awaken weapons. Sometimes you even see three of those essence things at once.

It's just RNG, and luck. Better chances for 5 star things with a higher awakening level on your weapon and the more potential you stack, other than crossing your fingers that's about all you can do to increase the chances.

[TyresTyco]

Stack the other stats first before trying to get a set bonus for maximizing your chances getting it.

Example. Element dbs. Get all element maxed first. Then focus on the set part you want.

Do not waste mats by wanting it first.

[Sacred Heart]

Originally posted by Prof-health tea drinker TH:

Originally posted by Nine:

Pretty rare, but why would you even want it? It's just outright worse than taking another elemental awaken.

just try new stuff

Well take from someone who has tried it, it's better to put elemental there, or hell, even status coating.

[Ragosta tin Dei]

Pretty rare. That's why its the first skill I get.

[Goilveig]

Also one thing - if you get a couple copies of the weapon, you can save, then spend a bunch of dracolite and see what happens. If you don't like it, reload and try another copy of the weapon.

You can't effectively save scum an individual weapon (if you make exactly the same choices you'll always get the same options) but each weapon will progress differently, so if you have 2 or 3 copies of the weapon, you can save scum to see which is best to invest into by which, if any, give you a rare enhancement.

[Magnussen]

Originally posted by Greb:

It's 5-Star in terms of quality but honestly I don't think anything is any rarer than the other, myself. I've seen Teostra's Technique and Gold / Silver Essence, Shara Divinity, etc etc all pop up a lot while trying to awaken weapons. Sometimes you even see three of those essence things at once.

It's just RNG, and luck. Better chances for 5 star things with a higher awakening level on your weapon and the more potential you stack, other than crossing your fingers that's about all you can do to increase the chances.

This is also my experience: Is as common as the rest of the essences....
In fact, it may be RNG but what I found the hardest thing is the Status effect (Status, not elemental)

[TheNevers]

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

Stack the other stats first before trying to get a set bonus for maximizing your chances getting it.

Example. Element dbs. Get all element maxed first. Then focus on the set part you want.

Do not waste mats by wanting it first.

This is a bad idea, the more awaken it is, the more mats it needs to be awaken.
Not to mention awaken level has nothing to do with what you getting.
I've got Teos in awaken 4 and I've got weapon that won't show Teos with 30 potentials
IT's just RNG

[Sui Generic]

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

Stack the other stats first before trying to get a set bonus for maximizing your chances getting it.

Example. Element dbs. Get all element maxed first. Then focus on the set part you want.

Do not waste mats by wanting it first.

I keep seeing this advice everywhere and it's the exact opposite of what you should be doing. You should roll for set bonuses when rolls cost 8 instead of 20, before adding anything else to the weapon. Once you have the set bonus, you should then upgrade stats incrementally.

To explain the reason for this methodology: Regardless of the amount of awakening slots you have filled or what you have them filled with, storing potential will increase the rarity of options offered. This means that a maxed out stored potential is more likely to give you the option of (for instance) attack 3 over attack 2. This is a ludicrously inefficient way to get attack 3, however, as you can increase your odds of getting attack 3 at 0 stored potential by simply selecting attack 2 earlier on. Lacking a clearly defined incremental upgrade path, no such condition applies to set bonuses and they go purely off assigned rarity, so the likelihood of getting higher rarity skills is increased by storing potential alone.

[Schaldach]

I roll'd that silver rath for it's lack of efficiency in general

[Ajukreyzi]

Originally posted by Exodus M-Uesli:

I keep seeing this advice everywhere and it's the exact opposite of what you should be doing. You should roll for set bonuses when rolls cost 8 instead of 20, before adding anything else to the weapon. Once you have the set bonus, you should then upgrade stats incrementally.

If you roll for the Essence Bonus first, you will constantly roll Element Up awakenings,
which you skip to get them again later.
But when you have maxed out Element Up´s, you won`t roll Element Up anymore. Which highly increases your chance of getting Essence rolls. Not to mention that theres a chance you roll it whilst upgrading your Element Up´s.

[Sui Generic]

Originally posted by Ajukreyzi:

But when you have maxed out Element Up´s, you won`t roll Element Up anymore.

Yes.

Which highly increases your chance of getting Essence rolls.

No.

[Ajukreyzi]

Which highly increases your chance of getting Essence rolls.

No.

Why not ? Assuming everything has the same dropchance, eliminating one possible option increases the chance for the others, maybe not "highly" but it should be an increase.