Defender weapons new meta?

[Blacksteel]

Vanilla MHW still has a few days left. How do these weapons fit into the current weapon landscape? Are they op? Discuss given what you main and how you feel they stack against the weapon collections you have.


Defender Katana V: 726 atk, CHONK of white sharpness, 300 blast (un augmented, takes 2 augments)

Taroth Sword "Fire": 660 atk, 20 def bonus, less white sharpness, I augment slot

seems pretty good

[Seamus]

The LS may be BiS, the gunlance definitely is for slap stick and wide style. These weapons are rather absurd.

[puzzlefox]

Tarroth sword fire is one of the best in the game, if not THE best. Kind of depends on matchup tho. The Jho LS does better in some matchups iirc.

If we’re talking meta, you don’t need all that much white sharpness since you’ll be wanting to run behemoth 4p which negates sharpness loss with all critical hits, which should be at 100%

[♋Phenex]

Defender katana is stronger than taroth sword fire as you don't need non-elemental boost and it has an extra 300 blast on it. Frees up an extra slot and that extra augment makes it even better.

And it will be better early game in MHWI as well cause non-elemental boost gets nerfed. Will probably still be replaced early though by early MR weapons.

[Mr. 101]

They did a phenomenal job of introducing an armor and weapon set that people picking up the game for the first time can easily don and sprint through the game with. Which should tell you a lot about how the Monster Hunter team (and community as a whole) views Iceborne and Master Rank as the true game...

[Rin 凛]

Originally posted by puzzlefox:

Tarroth sword fire is one of the best in the game, if not THE best. Kind of depends on matchup tho. The Jho LS does better in some matchups iirc.

If we’re talking meta, you don’t need all that much white sharpness since you’ll be wanting to run behemoth 4p which negates sharpness loss with all critical hits, which should be at 100%

Defender is actually better thanTaroth tho, they have the same stat on my build (which is 825 attack), it has 300 blast built in, and you can augment for 1 more attack/affinity but you lose 20 def bonus which is not all that bad.

[rina]

Originally posted by Galewyn:

I know this is a harsh post but this is how I view what is going on right now. So if ANYONE can prove me wrong. PLEASE do so.

The only concern I have with it is, can we expect more boosted players?

A lot of people tend to do rather bad verses ATs and do stupid things verses A. Lesh and Behemoth. My worry is the fact with this gear including the armor and the community using max gear in low rank to "help" them. Can we expect MORE boosted players in Master Rank so when its endgame hits....

Will it be WORSE than High Rank endgame?

The stronger the weapon the faster people will advance without learning monsters movesets so yes, it sucks because people already cart left and right on ATs.

[Tustle]

The Defender Horn's base attack is reeeee-don-culous!...which might explain the more subdued buffs it gives, not to knock the Earplugs buff.

[Toxi]

on the hunting horn, the biggest detractors it has are, no Attack song, no Melody extender, so something like Empress Blaze is still much, much stronger, especially for multiplayer where groups need that Attack song, which is a lot of times, as well as flinch free.

For people progressing this may as well be the de facto horn, because I don't see any other horn outdo it up to the endgame builds.
It has the Deep Vero raw damage, with white sharpness and without the negative affinity, as well as the Bazel blast damage, which is ridiculous.

It's a damn strong horn for sure, maybe even strong to be considered among the best, in SOS flares.

[Alhanalem [DD1 Community Dev]]

Since i prefer to play more of a support/healer type of role with horns, I'm probably not going to be changing much.

I wish there was layered armor for the defender set though. Even better would be if they added a real transmog system and just let you look however you wanted.

[Ryoga]

How can i get them?

[Weyfer'z]

:d

[FadingCosmos]

For lvling thoughout the story? ♥♥♥♥ yeah the defender weapons and armor are god tier for progressing. Post-game in MHW? Meh, some are BiS upgrades now but its pretty great for those wanting to be ready for iceborne (also those who have an alt to quickly get them to end-game faster)

Also i'll like to nick pick who the ♥♥♥♥ design the LBG ammo. Its like they randomly gave auto reload to almost everything and decently gave rapid fire for normal 2 and fire ammo