OBS and MHW

[Muffalopadus]

Tried streaming this last night - while the game fps stayed at 60, the stream FPS was horrible.

OBS said it was sitting at 60 fps with no frame drops but the actual stream looked like...idk, 5-15 fps at times...and at others it looked fine at 60.

Anyone have some tips or insight on this? I'd like to stream it but it just looks so bad I cant.

[Wookiee]

I've also got the same problem. Has nobody figured it out yet?

[RotGoblin]

Well if you have a CPU heavy game, and you're using OBS and x264 encoding, a CPU heavy encoder... And you have, say, An i5/i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads or less... You should see the problem here.

However as this game is GPU light, if you switched to the (not as good) NVENC (or Radeon equivalent) GPU encoder, you might be fine.

[Muffalopadus]

I just got an i7 8700 cpu. I get 120-90 fps when unlocked. Running in dedicated full screen somewhat helps but the fps of the stream is still waaaay below 60. Running at locked fps doesn’t do anything, unlocked seems to stream somewhat better.

For reference I can stream games like nu-Prey just fine.

It wouldn’t even be bad if it was steady but the quality jumps around a lot.

I appreciate the suggestion and I’ll try out a gpu encoder.

I’m wondering if this is a denuvo issue. I’ve had zero luck googling this problem.

[RotGoblin]

Originally posted by Muffalopadus:

I just got an i7 8700 cpu. I get 120-90 fps when unlocked. Running in dedicated full screen somewhat helps but the fps of the stream is still waaaay below 60. Running at locked fps doesn’t do anything, unlocked seems to stream somewhat better.

For reference I can stream games like nu-Prey just fine.

It wouldn’t even be bad if it was steady but the quality jumps around a lot.

I appreciate the suggestion and I’ll try out a gpu encoder.

12 threads and struggling is impressive.

I'd definitely try the NVENC then.

[Mudkip_Mcgee]

Are you locking the FPS in game to 60 as well?
If so, and you're still getting frame drops, it's probably because of this game being excessively cpu taxing.

Also, are you able to monitor your cpu temperature (and is it delidded)? It could be thermal throttling.

I've seen my Ryzen 1700 3.9ghz (8 core, 16 thread) usually hover at 40% to 50% utilization just running this game. I'd imagine it's a lot worse for anything with fewer threads.

[Vahnkiljoy]

That's why I use a capture card and a streaming pc setup, made things so much easier once it was all setup.

[Muffalopadus]

Originally posted by Mudkip_Mcgee:

Are you locking the FPS in game to 60 as well?
If so, and you're still getting frame drops, it's probably because of this game being excessively cpu taxing.

Also, are you able to monitor your cpu temperature (and is it delidded)? It could be thermal

I previously said I ran in both locked and unlocked fps. Unlocked I’d get 120-90 fps, but it also streamed better. Running in dedicated fullscreen also helped for obvious reasons. Running at slightly lower settings did nothing. I haven’t tried experimenting at rock bottom setting yet though, so I’ll try that.

My cpu temps were normal. I just upgraded to an i7 8700.

Originally posted by Vahnkiljoy:

That's why I use a capture card and a streaming pc setup, made things so much easier once it was all setup.

I don’t own a capture card and can’t really afford to build a second pc just for streaming.

OBS worked just fine for everything else up to this point. Really taxing games like ARMA 3 streamed just fine.

[Wookiee]

I messed around a bunch with OBS settings but it didn't improve anything. What helped for me the most was turning on V-sync and capping the FPS at 30 in game.

[Malice]

Originally posted by Vahnkiljoy:

That's why I use a capture card and a streaming pc setup, made things so much easier once it was all setup.

Yup, I tried the same thing. I just happened to have a laptop sitting around and a capture device, so I just did that. There's too much CPU load going on to get a decent stream going otherwise, unless nVidia Shadowplay has it's own twitch streaming settings, which it does. I haven't tried them because I rather like OBS.

[Noxe]

Are you using classic OBS or OBS Studio? I noticed a big improvement when switching over to Studio.

I have an overclocked i7 6700K and a GTX 1080 with 16gb Ram. No issues streaming this game. CPU usage does not exceed 55-60% (with OBS studio streaming at 60fps) and the game settings maxed out minus cancer fog.

What are the rest of your specs?

[Tay4bucks]

streaming this game is very demanding, it is CPU intensive so combined with high CPU usage from OBS and high CPU usage from the game you're going to experince performance loss. I stream this game and other high graphics game by using two PC's

[Mille]

I also stream with an i7 6700K (x264) and standard quality preset and it hits my framerate by 20 FPS but I'm well above 75/80 FPS so that's fine for me.

Switching to GPU encoding (Vega 64) with same bitrate killed the stream for me: While I havenÄt fealt any impact while playing the stream was a choppy/laggy/stuttering mess and I don't know why.

[Muffalopadus]

Originally posted by Noxe:

Are you using classic OBS or OBS Studio? I noticed a big improvement when switching over to Studio.

I have an overclocked i7 6700K and a GTX 1080 with 16gb Ram. No issues streaming this game. CPU usage does not exceed 55-60% (with OBS studio streaming at 60fps) and the game settings maxed out minus cancer fog.

What are the rest of your specs?

I’m using OBS Streamlabs. It was significantly better that vanilla OBS up until this point.

I7 8700, gtx1080, 16gb ddr4, win10 x64, couple of SSD’s

I’m running the game at unlocked fps, no vsync, mostly highest settings but no fog and no AA. Unlocked fps seems better for my stream than locked fps. I haven’t tried streaming at rock bottom settings yet.

What encoding settings are you using? I haven’t messed with any of those at all because it’s worked great and looked great until MH:W.

[Chimbicator]

Originally posted by The Dandy Highwayman:

Well if you have a CPU heavy game, and you're using OBS and x264 encoding, a CPU heavy encoder... And you have, say, An i5/i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads or less... You should see the problem here.

However as this game is GPU light, if you switched to the (not as good) NVENC (or Radeon equivalent) GPU encoder, you might be fine.

Man, this helped me a lot! thanks

[RotGoblin]

Originally posted by Chimbicator:

Originally posted by The Dandy Highwayman:

Well if you have a CPU heavy game, and you're using OBS and x264 encoding, a CPU heavy encoder... And you have, say, An i5/i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads or less... You should see the problem here.

However as this game is GPU light, if you switched to the (not as good) NVENC (or Radeon equivalent) GPU encoder, you might be fine.

Man, this helped me a lot! thanks

No worries, glad it helped.