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Jaevwyn Feb 25, 2020 @ 10:17am
Guard Up List
Hi All,

looking for an up to date list of what Guard up is required for in blocking with a lance, anyone got it handy?
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Originally posted by Fregi:
Alright, another updated list of what guard up can't block. Let's go. I'm going down these by the monster field guide and what I remember.

Lunastra Supernova (You can block the wind part, but you can't block the damage over time effect.)
Nightshade Paolumu sleep gas (You can block the initial part, but you'll still get the status due to standing in the cloud.)
Brachydios Blastscourge (Same reason as nightshade paolumu)
Velkhana "the floor is ice and you're slow" (Counter with iceproof mantle.)
Vaals effluvium clouds (Applies to both. You can't block a cloud sitting there, it'll still tick away at your health.)
Namielle waves (Counter with waterproof mantle)
Savage jho jumping pin (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, good luck.)
Tempered zinogre pin (Can't be blocked, evidenced by the Wrath of the Thunderlord quest)
Stygian zinogre pin
Safi'jiiva pin (Dodge by rolling towards safi at the right time)
Safi'jiiva Saphire of the Emperor (don't try)
Behemoth Goring rush (It pins.)
Behemoth Ecliptic Meteor
Ancient Leshen... something. I forgot.

"But rajang!" I hear you say.

Rajang's a pile of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but i've never been pinned while in powerguard (blocks on a 360 degree rotation). This means that the hitbox for rajang's pin is so awful, that it literally reaches behind the player to grab them.
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Disfear Feb 25, 2020 @ 10:34am 
Teostra Supernova
New Master Rank Diablos/Black Diablos Charge (Plants hands and then charges)
Vaal Hazak Effluvial Cloud
Deviljho Pin and Devour Attacks
Kirin Straight Heavy Lightning Bolt
Xeno'jiva Continuous Horizontal Laser beam (Fire Balls, and Vertical Beams do not require Guard Up to block)
Kulve Taroth Fire Breath
Behemoth Belly-flop and Ground Fireburst
Velkhana's Ice Breath
Shara Ishvalda's Unarmored form Wind Attacks

This is the list that tell you which ones you can't block without guard up.

I don't believe that there are somthing that you can block with lance that others weapon like CB can't block. Simply with lance you can block better that others (and have the skill that block on 360°), that means you lost less stamina and get less pierce damage. If I am wrong on this part please correct me.
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StormhawkV Feb 25, 2020 @ 10:37am 
Basically every attack that is a beam and some pins but I have never seen a list with that stuff.

Edit:
Savage Jho's pin is unblockable btw.
Last edited by StormhawkV; Feb 25, 2020 @ 10:39am
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Mandalorian Deathknight Feb 25, 2020 @ 10:46am 
with Shara Ishvalda's Unarmored form Wind Attacks beam just turn the lance where you're back is faceing the other way sheild still gets hit but knock you away with guard up dont try to full guard it to much stam loss and chip damage
Last edited by Mandalorian Deathknight; Feb 25, 2020 @ 10:46am
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Jaevwyn Feb 25, 2020 @ 3:16pm 
good stuff, thanks!
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puzzlefox Feb 25, 2020 @ 4:34pm 
Just an extra tidbit, Namielle’s nova does not need guard + to be blocked. Idk if Valkana’s Ice beams can be blocked with it, but they 100% can’t be blocked without it.
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Jaevwyn Feb 26, 2020 @ 3:05am 
Originally posted by puzzlefox:
Just an extra tidbit, Namielle’s nova does not need guard + to be blocked. Idk if Valkana’s Ice beams can be blocked with it, but they 100% can’t be blocked without it.

They can be :) (with Guard Up)
Last edited by Jaevwyn; Feb 26, 2020 @ 3:05am
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Valentine (Lunaticus) Feb 26, 2020 @ 6:12am 
So you can actually block the Devil Jho pin? I thought I had Guard Up back when I tried before deeming Lance as a bad weapon against it but maybe I was mistaken. Guess I'll have to try it sometime.
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twiggy Feb 26, 2020 @ 6:14am 
guard up doesnt work with deviljho pin, i always get hit by it
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Valentine (Lunaticus) Feb 26, 2020 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by winner:
guard up doesnt work with deviljho pin, i always get hit by it
HAH! I knew it! (Well not erally since it was quite a while ago)

I remember my first Savage Devil Jho fight sucking balls because of constantly getting pinned.
Last edited by Valentine (Lunaticus); Feb 26, 2020 @ 6:21am
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AsceticG Feb 26, 2020 @ 7:14am 
Why do you even need the list? Just slap guard up in every set.
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Endarion Feb 26, 2020 @ 7:32am 
Originally posted by AsceticG:
Why do you even need the list? Just slap guard up in every set.

this is what i do with my CB sets
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GunRunner89X Feb 26, 2020 @ 1:13pm 
Anyone else think it's a bit stupid when you can tank a Teo/Luna supernova with Guard Up and yet a little hop by Deviljho or claw by Zinogre and you're pinned -_-
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Tenebris Feb 26, 2020 @ 2:24pm 
Why do people call Shara's attacks wind attacks? They're supersonic sound, hence the vibrations and ability to cause earthquakes
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JebKerman Feb 26, 2020 @ 2:38pm 
Originally posted by Tenebris:
Why do people call Shara's attacks wind attacks? They're supersonic sound, hence the vibrations and ability to cause earthquakes
"supersonic sound" = "sound that is faster than sound", that doesn't make sense.

The beams you see are most likely air as unlike sound it is something that can be properly directed, it can also explain the fact it's chest is so full of holes, much like Valstrax they probably serve as intakes.

To maneuver underground it likely uses a combination of vibrating its wingtips to break up the ground like a jackhammer (which, given our own are pneumatic, is also probably powered by air) and injecting air into the resulting sand, making it act more like a liquid
Last edited by JebKerman; Feb 26, 2020 @ 2:38pm
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Fregi Feb 26, 2020 @ 3:25pm 
Originally posted by JebKerman:
Originally posted by Tenebris:
Why do people call Shara's attacks wind attacks? They're supersonic sound, hence the vibrations and ability to cause earthquakes
"supersonic sound" = "sound that is faster than sound", that doesn't make sense.

The beams you see are most likely air as unlike sound it is something that can be properly directed, it can also explain the fact it's chest is so full of holes, much like Valstrax they probably serve as intakes.

To maneuver underground it likely uses a combination of vibrating its wingtips to break up the ground like a jackhammer (which, given our own are pneumatic, is also probably powered by air) and injecting air into the resulting sand, making it act more like a liquid
i just call him the pressure washer cause he goes PPSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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