About elemental CB's with impact phials

[Zplayer96]

So i know that Artillery increases damage for impact phials and jewels or charms for fire, ice etc.. increase the elemental damage for your CB if it has the same element but what if you have both elemental CB and impact phials? which would be best to focus on on your build? should i make separate builds for artillery and elemental for the same CB? which one is better?

[Endarion]

eh? your CB can be only elemental or impact, it can't be both

if you mean that you your IMPACT CB has element then you still go for artillery as rising the element won't do anythign for the impact phial ticks

[Zplayer96]

Originally posted by OutSeal:

eh? your CB can be only elemental or impact, it can't be both

if you mean that you your IMPACT CB has element then you still go for artillery as rising the element won't do anythign for the impact phial ticks

Talking about stygian zinogre, it has both dragon and impact phials

[shadonic]

generally you build your set around your Phial type primarily.
in case of the upcomming stygian maledicta, it's still worth more running a pure non-element build rather, as any extra element is wasted since the impact phials wouldn't benefit from it.

if you want some extra insight on the CB in general, there is a very good guide online teaching you all about the weapon, values, guard points, etc.

https://mhwbuilds.net/charge-blade-beginner-faq/#phial-calculation

[Endarion]

Originally posted by Zplayer96:

Originally posted by OutSeal:

eh? your CB can be only elemental or impact, it can't be both

if you mean that you your IMPACT CB has element then you still go for artillery as rising the element won't do anythign for the impact phial ticks

Talking about stygian zinogre, it has both dragon and impact phials

it's an impact CB so artillery

adding dragon element will inimaly increase the elemental damage on the sword and axe it but it won't do anything for the phial damage because it is not an elemental CB

[Zplayer96]

Originally posted by shadonic:

generally you build your set around your Phial type primarily.
in case of the upcomming stygian maledicta, it's still worth more running a pure non-element build rather, as any extra element is wasted since the impact phials wouldn't benefit from it.

So focus on Artillery instead of dragon attack correct? but it'll still be weaker than G.rathian CB since it has less raw if i focus on impact phials, thought i'd focus on both Artillery and Dragon attack and use it on monsters weak to dragon maybe then it'll be better than G,rathians CB since it even has purple sharpness, thats just what i was thinking about dunno if it'll work

[Zplayer96]

Originally posted by OutSeal:

Originally posted by Zplayer96:

Talking about stygian zinogre, it has both dragon and impact phials

it's an impact CB so artillery

adding dragon element will inimaly increase the elemental damage on the sword and axe it but it won't do anything for the phial damage because it is not an elemental CB

Im dumb, forgot about that thanks, so if im going for pure SAED i should focus on Artillery and if i wanna go with Savage axe i should focus on element right?

[shadonic]

Originally posted by Zplayer96:

Originally posted by shadonic:

generally you build your set around your Phial type primarily.
in case of the upcomming stygian maledicta, it's still worth more running a pure non-element build rather, as any extra element is wasted since the impact phials wouldn't benefit from it.

So focus on Artillery instead of dragon attack correct? but it'll still be weaker than G.rathian CB since it has less raw if i focus on impact phials, thought i'd focus on both Artillery and Dragon attack and use it on monsters weak to dragon maybe then it'll be better than G,rathians CB since it even has purple sharpness, thats just what i was thinking about dunno if it'll work

in case of the stygian and rath CB, you will not only fall short on some base damage, you will also miss the poison, aswell as a 2 slot deco slot.

i would recommend the Vaal Hazak CB if you wanted to build around a Dragon element CB.

[Endarion]

Originally posted by Zplayer96:

Originally posted by OutSeal:

it's an impact CB so artillery

adding dragon element will inimaly increase the elemental damage on the sword and axe it but it won't do anything for the phial damage because it is not an elemental CB

Im dumb, forgot about that thanks, so if im going for pure SAED i should focus on Artillery and if i wanna go with Savage axe i should focus on element right?

no

if your CB has impact phials you go artillery

if your cb has elemental phial you go element

[Run Ha]

you can discuss about the other but i dont think you can fit artillery 3 and elemental attack 6 in one build

[Endarion]

Originally posted by Run Ha:

you can discuss about the other but i dont think you can fit artillery 3 and elemental attack 6 in one build

you probably can if you ditch other skills

not that is going to be optimal in any way tho