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Cherry Blossom ✿ 2020 年 2 月 20 日 下午 2:25
Gold Rathian weapons
I still wonder why 70% of the melee weapons players i see in multi use a gold rathian weapon. It has one of best damages, gives affinity and poison without having to use free elem and have a better than average sharpness at first sight.

I tested the longsword one (with non-elemental boost jewel), and compared it to the elemental ones (with velkhana's elemental boost). And it seems elemental weapons deal more damages.
So, are gold rathian weapons really that overpowered ? Is it a meta build or what ? (i dont really check meta builds, i prefer to use what i'm comfortable with :D )

I'm not that bothered, but i just notice that in most of cases in elder dragons hunts, i'm like the only one using elderseal weapons while others use non-elemental weapons.
最後修改者:Cherry Blossom ✿; 2020 年 2 月 20 日 下午 2:26
引用自 Crusader:
Elemental damage pros: potentially more damage in some match ups

Cons: crazy sharpness loss because you have to run true crit element which means you can’t run master’s touch, the need to swap to different weapons potentially losing out on some deco slots which cost you some damage.

Raw pros: mostly consistent damage and sharpness, lack of need to switch up between fights

Cons: less damage on some match ups

And i wouldn’t say gold rath is the comfy option, it’s the best raw option. They outright beat rajang, nergi and acidic glav in almost every stat. In rajang’s case, gold rath has less raw but makes up for it by adding another 25-30% affinity, way more sharpness and natural white, crap ton of poison instead of trash tier lightning damage. Nergi only really beats gold rath in the amount of white sharpness they have, they’re the true comfy weapons. And acidic glav is just a mess. You need handi 5, master’s touch and 100% affinity just to keep it consistent just like rajang. And they have the same base raw as grath. They lack the poison damage but can get 5% more raw with non elemental boost but it’s kind of a joke in iceborne.

Tldr: gold rath is meta as ♥♥♥♥ for raw until safi. I feel bad for anyone who doesn’t have a gold rath tree on their main weapons tree.
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Gidedeon 2020 年 2 月 20 日 下午 9:04 
Laughs in elementless greatsword
mewlynx 2020 年 2 月 20 日 下午 9:08 
引用自 Cherry Blossom ✿
Fun fact, i was hunting in GL a tempered lunastra.

She were spamming her nova every 2 minutes because nobody excepted me played with an elderseal weapon, but i couldn't avoid her to charge her nova.
Told my teammates to switch their weapons to elderseal ones to end that annoying hunt, with ppl carted like 5 times each because of these nova spams. They didn't, they got toxic towards me, and then i got kicked.

What do you expect from 2 other people playing rathian LS and one with loyal thunder ? :D
This is why you never directly communicate with your randoms, just spam stickers.
:3 "cat face" 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 4:17 
As a Swax main I actually stick with the shara tree I'm more interested in deco slots for my master touch attack 7, crit 7, weakness exploit 3, agitator build.
最後修改者::3 "cat face"; 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 4:19
Slaw Bunnies 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 5:07 
引用自 Sugoi
Don't worry. You'll be drowning in people using safi blast weapons soon enough. :P

Idk why, Poison and Dragon seemed to be the best elements/status ailments for his weapons and they are also the most overused. Everyone slept on blast ailment.
IMaNickygUrl 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 5:29 
They need to make Masters touch a deco so we all can start experimenting with different builds. It's just a handicap being stuck with 3 teo pieces
Nauct 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 5:48 
引用自 IMaNickygUrl
They need to make Masters touch a deco so we all can start experimenting with different builds. It's just a handicap being stuck with 3 teo pieces

That's why the nerg weapons are nice, you can fit in way more agitator or attack. Especially with greatsword because you dont even have to sharpen once per fight
Hustensohn 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 5:49 
引用自 Cherry Blossom ✿
What do you expect from 2 other people playing rathian LS and one with loyal thunder ? :D

Only noobs judge people depending on which type of weapon they use.

There may be 99% of all Longsword players who are little kids or weebs or whatever but there's still that 1% to which your attitude is extremely unfair.
EvilJoshy 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 7:28 
I just got the gold rathian cb last night. Dear Rose was one of my personal favorites in MHW. I also like the look of the weapon.
Cherry Blossom ✿ 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 7:31 
引用自 Rohrverlegerer69
引用自 Cherry Blossom ✿
What do you expect from 2 other people playing rathian LS and one with loyal thunder ? :D

Only noobs judge people depending on which type of weapon they use.

There may be 99% of all Longsword players who are little kids or weebs or whatever but there's still that 1% to which your attitude is extremely unfair.

Ofc i don't generalize, i've played a lot of times with good LS players that don't run like if they were hunting a great jagras.

I'm myself a LS main, but now currently playing other weapons for the fun.

But you should really wonder that something is going wrong when you see that the LS people there got carted 5 times each, haven't changed their gear, and still continue to fight and get carted and flame the one who told them to use a more approriate weapon. Assume they are not cheap players (because it's MR100+ hunt) that don't have less than 2 weapons to switch.
Goatrage 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 8:59 
引用自 Greb

I'm a Hammer main so I didn't get a Gold Rathian weapon, and the Silver Rathalos Hammer kinda sucks, so I'm indifferent, however.

Me too. Never even heard of Gold Rath weapons. I use that for armor tho. 60% mitigation is nice.
Slowbroken 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 9:46 
Not sure why no one is mentioning the royal captain rapier, it gets 5% more crit, access to elementless, and purple sharpness.
maclever 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 10:49 
引用自 Cherry Blossom ✿
I still wonder why 70% of the melee weapons players i see in multi use a gold rathian weapon. It has one of best damages, gives affinity and poison without having to use free elem and have a better than average sharpness at first sight.

I tested the longsword one (with non-elemental boost jewel), and compared it to the elemental ones (with velkhana's elemental boost). And it seems elemental weapons deal more damages.
So, are gold rathian weapons really that overpowered ? Is it a meta build or what ? (i dont really check meta builds, i prefer to use what i'm comfortable with :D )

I'm not that bothered, but i just notice that in most of cases in elder dragons hunts, i'm like the only one using elderseal weapons while others use non-elemental weapons.


LOSE THE NON ELEMENTAL BOOST JEWEL YA NOOB.

I am only going to say this once.
Non-elemental boost, ONLY works on weapons WITHOUT an awakened element, this INCLUDES hidden element weapons that have been awakened by free element. If the element is still hidden, then non-elemental boost, still works. If you put non-elemental boost on a weapon that deals elemental damage you are wasting a skill.

And no, non-elemental will not become useless after safi'jiva like another user posted, although it was more useful before Iceborne launched. Before Iceborne, it gave a 10% boost, after it's a dinky 5%.

But either way, certain skills work certain ways. You cannot put a "poison jewel 3" on a bow gun that cant shoot poison and expect it to. It only works with bows. Same with non-elemental boost. Save it for non-elemental weapons.
Nerevar 2020 年 2 月 21 日 上午 11:06 
ok first off tc : NEB doesnt work on gold rath LS at all. thus you wasted a gem slot. neb doesnt work if there is any element or status effect active on the weapon already. which is the case for goldian ls by default.

elemental LS sucks. why? because moron devs didnt bother to remove the terrible elemod dmg on helmsplitter. splitters element mod is only something like 0.3 which sucks royally dmg wise.

goldian LS is the strongest LS till safi arrives. then its the shatterblade (blast version). goldian has literally only advantages over nerg due to its natural 10% affinity. devs gave ls a 2nd move which drains sharpness (clutch claw weakening attack and you have to use it twice to weaken on top) fast thus MT is pretty much the best setbonus for LS still and holds it hostage to 3p teo (2p with safi if you wanna give up 10 true raw)

downside of goldian ls : on multiplayer if there is ANY other source of poisen the poisen becomes way less useful in total.

but the reason why elemental ls sucks is simple : the elemod on helmsplitter which happens to be your major big hitting attack with ls. moron devs didnt bother to fix that (which they should have done with iceborne imo to make ele ls viable)

and people who say you can fit more dmg on nerg ls are wrong. its safe to ignore what they say. you cannot. as goldian ls already can get agi 5 attack 4 and peak 3 crit 7 and wex 3 right now which is pretty much the limit already for useful raw bonuses. the others are far to conditnal to rely on em.

Mishli 2020 年 2 月 21 日 下午 5:00 
Just a heads up, in your example, non elemental boost will not help the gold rathian weapons, NEB only kicks in if the element has NO active status or element. So save yourself a deco there.

They also nerfed the skill in iceborne, between the poison and high sharpness + positive affinity, g rathian weapons are just overall more consistent in most cases. Technically other weapons can slightly out perform them with higher raw or element, but that usually requires perfect deco drops or having to deal with protective polish, and most people just prefer how comfy they are by comparison
John Sober 2020 年 2 月 22 日 上午 9:39 
Game has been out for months on console. There is all the information out there. Its not news that goldian ls is mathematically the best ls pre Safi in general.

Also, you don't need elderseal to fight elders (I personally like running elderseal part breaker 3 for temp ruiner, no clue if and I doubt it's necessary, I just like the idea of counter building for his mechanics for fun).

If they were carting a bunch to tempered lunastra, it's because it's tempered lunastra and/or they're just not good at fighting her and/or they don't have the right build to not get deleted by her nonsense nova. I run divine blessing 5, fireproof mantle, fire res 3, and Damascus helm, vambraces, and greaves (yes, I can run Teo three piece instead of these three but I like the tacky has hell fully golden armor) for tempered lunastra. I'm usually the one spamming dust of life during her nova.

Also, why do you care about people carting a bunch in gl to the point where you're asking them to switch weapons???
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