People with agitator+attack, but no health boost..

[Fenrir_El]

really?
How's carting to each luna's nova or dying to teostra's blast in one go will help you with your dps?
They don't even get mantles to counter elemental damage, just freaking temporal mantle + glider...

[useless puppy]

Another day, another group of people whining that their SOS isn't carrying them. Just play solo and let people play how they want and for god sakes stop this loser mentality over a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

[Holografix]

All these responses and not one person who runs Attack+Agitator and no-health boost 3 has answered...What's the point?

[Hare+Guu!]

You still want hp against luna nova. The best strategy is to get knocked down and not get up and let the iframe do it's work. But even that won't do any good if you don't have the hp/resist to live through the initial wave.

Even if you have a widerange in party, you still want the extra cushion in case they don't drink in time.

[bolabuga]

Originally posted by Narcoleptic Marshmallow:

That's what happens when people google "mhw best build" and every result is some glass cannon build made on a builder website. They probably don't even know what health boost is.

Usually the same people who complain about the game being too hard, too.

Its a good point of start for planning group dps build, but we can see that some people have no idea of this, and just assume that as the best build, which, in general, is true for a specific context.

I for example, look at the complete dps oriented long sword build, but as a average player i like to add minimum 2 health augment and 3 evade window, which helps a lot in executing iai spirit slash.

[Greb]

Charging into battle with -11 Water Resistance against Tempered Namielle without Health Boost 3!

My DPS will win the day! Chaaaaaarge!

[Vandals[UK]]

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

DBs with no health boost is kinda on a suicide mission against tempered. Unless you're this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJxUan6Pgm8

That is the problem.

People watch stuffs like this and copy their build without considering:

1. They don't have the skill and knowledge to pull it off.

2. The video is probably done in Solo WITHOUT palico. Which makes the monster's action much more easier to predict and read. (Boy, they are trying to pull off solo stuffs in Multi-player.)

3. It is a video of the BEST run. God knows how many times this guy/girl failed before he/she managed to pull it off.

[mewlynx]

Slotting in comfort has never been easier, this confuses me as well tbh

[amathy]

Originally posted by Holografix:

All these responses and not one person who runs Attack+Agitator and no-health boost 3 has answered...What's the point?

The point is to circlejerk about hb3 because it’s almost been 24 hours since the last post in the other thread about hb3

[ボーイ"ヴィランズ"今原]

Originally posted by Remi:

DAE suck at the game so they need baby blanket skills? Screw those people better than me that can go full damage and not die.

lul

[Fenrir_El]

Originally posted by Shy:

Another day, another group of people whining that their SOS isn't carrying them. Just play solo and let people play how they want and for god sakes stop this loser mentality over a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

pfff.. idiot.

Originally posted by Hare+Guu!:

You still want hp against luna nova. The best strategy is to get knocked down and not get up and let the iframe do it's work. But even that won't do any good if you don't have the hp/resist to live through the initial wave.

Even if you have a widerange in party, you still want the extra cushion in case they don't drink in time.

exactly!

Originally posted by 『amathy』:

Originally posted by Holografix:

All these responses and not one person who runs Attack+Agitator and no-health boost 3 has answered...What's the point?

The point is to circlejerk about hb3 because it’s almost been 24 hours since the last post in the other thread about hb3

the point is in me venting my frustration and, perhaps, some long sword/db users will see this post and, at least, start doubting their builds.

[AnemoneMeer]

What a lot of people forget is that the later damage skills tend not to be very effective. After you have 100% affinity and Critical Boost maxed, it gets a bit difficult to really pack in value. An endgame weapon might have 290 raw inherently, alongside the 15 raw from food, 15 from charm/talon, and 20 from peak performance, we're up to 340. Attack augment for 345 and agitator for 365 if you're feeling spicy.

Past this point, adding in additional damage is gonna have extremely minor effects. Attack boost 4 takes us to 377, a gain of less than 4% for 4 slots. Coalesence is 12 points for 1 slot, but conflicts with Peak Performance. Even Agitator and attack augment are messy, as fitting all that is hard and can't be done on a rarity 12 atm without trading out affinity augment. And those gains are minimal, with less than an 8% DPS gain if you can fit them in, in exchange for 3 or even 5 level 2 slots.

Or you can fit some support/utility/other assists in the remaining slots, so that you die less, have better uptime on the monster, and generally have smoother, more reliable hunts. Because clearing half your hunts 10% faster is slower than clearing all your hunts, because if you fail from your own squishyness, you just wasted your own time.

[Fenrir_El]

Originally posted by AnemoneMeer:

What a lot of people forget is that the later damage skills tend not to be very effective. After you have 100% affinity and Critical Boost maxed, it gets a bit difficult to really pack in value. An endgame weapon might have 290 raw inherently, alongside the 15 raw from food, 15 from charm/talon, and 20 from peak performance, we're up to 340. Attack augment for 345 and agitator for 365 if you're feeling spicy.

Past this point, adding in additional damage is gonna have extremely minor effects. Attack boost 4 takes us to 377, a gain of less than 4% for 4 slots. Coalesence is 12 points for 1 slot, but conflicts with Peak Performance. Even Agitator and attack augment are messy, as fitting all that is hard and can't be done on a rarity 12 atm without trading out affinity augment. And those gains are minimal, with less than an 8% DPS gain if you can fit them in, in exchange for 3 or even 5 level 2 slots.

Or you can fit some support/utility/other assists in the remaining slots, so that you die less, have better uptime on the monster, and generally have smoother, more reliable hunts. Because clearing half your hunts 10% faster is slower than clearing all your hunts, because if you fail from your own squishyness, you just wasted your own time.

yeah, righht now, my set has tool specialist lvl3, recovery up, hb3 and coalescence (due to me loving Shara chest amrour), alongside the usual dps skills for crit + handicraft. + skills like fortitude, satiated, brace.

[Sacred Heart]

Originally posted by Greb:

Charging into battle with -11 Water Resistance against Tempered Namielle without Health Boost 3!

My DPS will win the day! Chaaaaaarge!

Same goes for lunastra, and why so many people cry about her "waaah my -15 fire and 0 health boost meta set is carting cause i'm too dumb to protect vs fire or use any form of utility"

[BijutsuYoukai]

Jesus christ can this topic stop showing in some form or another? Let people play how they want. If it's your quest and they're not up to your standards? Kick them. Otherwise, deal with it and stop trying to dictate how other people play the game. People so aggressively insisting you HAVE TO RUN HEALTH BOOST 3 are as bad as the people who insist you HAVE TO RUN META DPS. Just let people run the sets they feel most comfortable with.

[Myrrdinn]

In a investigation sure I can understand being upset with em but tbh in GL them dying over and over does nothing to you at all it only hurts their rewards not yours. So let em die over and over they will either 1. leave 2. figure out that no hb ♥♥♥♥ aint gonna cut it in end game GL. Hell sacrificing one headpiece will you get HB2 them gem a third and your done with Gold Rath helm. Its probably not part of their super elite dps meta build but least they stay alive dps dont mean ♥♥♥♥ if your dead lol.