Elementless insect glaive build

[WickyFrisky]

I am suck at making builds so can anyone give me a elementless insect glaive build?

[Exdraconian]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterWorld/comments/a7xijr/pc_behemoth_meta_build_compilation_for_all/

[Linguistically Inept]

masters touch: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/945093088392842915/E42AC3B697DEBF24B631316BCFDD334EAAC88B40/

taroth 'claw'

psuedocath (could go with TDS, but takes forever for ti to regain stamina unless you spend time boop returning it; so it cant really be set to auto attack as i like... psuedocath cant auto well either, but better than TDS)

full drachen set

handicraft jewel


for pure raw youd probably want tyrannis glaive, but like all diablos weapons it requires more upkeep than weaker options because it cant abuse MT so youll need protective polish

[Shinshe]

Originally posted by WickyFrisky:

I am suck at making builds so can anyone give me a elementless insect glaive build?

Try honeyhunterworld.com
u can choose a weapon u will see alot fo builds pick raw one it will help u either copy or make your own take ideas all depends on your play style.

[WickyFrisky]

Originally posted by Exdraconian:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterWorld/comments/a7xijr/pc_behemoth_meta_build_compilation_for_all/

tks

[Stationary Traveller]

Originally posted by Linguistically Inept:

masters touch: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/945093088392842915/E42AC3B697DEBF24B631316BCFDD334EAAC88B40/

taroth 'claw'

Claw glaive is bad. You will hit way less hard than Tyrannis Glaive on the same level of Handicraft and the glaive itself has to be acquired through Kulve.
And I really don't know why you need an elementless glaive anyway when Grunge Storm does more damage than most elementless glaives before even counting its dragon damage.

[Linguistically Inept]

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

Originally posted by Linguistically Inept:

masters touch: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/945093088392842915/E42AC3B697DEBF24B631316BCFDD334EAAC88B40/

taroth 'claw'

Claw glaive is bad. You will hit way less hard than Tyrannis Glaive on the same level of Handicraft and the glaive itself has to be acquired through Kulve.
And I really don't know why you need an elementless glaive anyway when Grunge Storm does more damage than most elementless glaives before even counting its dragon damage.

thats why i prefaced with masters touch (and later stated tyrannis glaive is better for pure elementless); its a QoL set for farming, great against multi monster hunts as i dont need to sharpen at all (whereas the same build with tyrannis glaive requires another level in handicraft for a sliver -10 non crit hits- of white sharpness that you'd end up having to sharpen anyway because negative base affinity)

also since OP specified elementless not raw; i assumed that jho was out of the question (though tbh id be surprised if it beat out tyrannis on things that arent weak to dragon)

claw glaive isnt bad, its not the best, but its far from bad (and what does it being a kulve weapon have to do with it? shes coming back in a few days if someone doesnt have yet)

[Stationary Traveller]

But all glaives right now can use MT with 100% affinity?
On top of the fact that you won't lose sharpness with Tyrannis unless you just helicopter spin all the time, the point of multi monster hunts is... well, that you'll fight several monsters, which means you have plenty of time to resharpen between every monster.
And Jho glaive hits harder than any other glaive except Tyrannis even on monsters that are totally immune to dragon; with the exact same amount of white sharpness as Claw, there's zero reason to use the Kulve one.

P.S. the fact it's a Kulve weapon means it could take 200 hunts to get it, and you don't really recommend that unless it's a BiS weapon (which Claw really isn't).

[Hare+Guu!]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1609442523
Forgot to take out the sharp jewel though, but whatever. Even "100%" affinity isn't foolproof with master's touch.

Also, Grunge + white = 290 raw attack. Diablos with elementless + blue = 303.

[Linguistically Inept]

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

But all glaives right now can use MT with 100% affinity?
On top of the fact that you won't lose sharpness with Tyrannis unless you just helicopter spin all the time, the point of multi monster hunts is... well, that you'll fight several monsters, which means you have plenty of time to resharpen between every monster.
And Jho glaive hits harder than any other glaive except Tyrannis even on monsters that are totally immune to dragon; with the exact same amount of white sharpness as Claw, there's zero reason to use the Kulve one.

P.S. the fact it's a Kulve weapon means it could take 200 hunts to get it, and you don't really recommend that unless it's a BiS weapon (which Claw really isn't).

tyrannis is -30%, it has two augment slots so realistically -20% (or -15% if you want to go crazy)

l3 weakness exploit is takes it to 30% on weakpoints (and only weakpoints, which you wont hit all the time unless you're god tier)

l7 critical eye takes it to 60% on weakpoints (and 10% on non)

l4+ attack boost takes it to 65%/15%

l3 maximum might takes it to 95%/45%

you also need 4 handicraft for that measly 10 hits of white sharpness

... oh wait; its impossible to have all those skills together (not to mention the 3* critical boost and elementless youd undoubtedly want too); which is where claw comes in

[Stationary Traveller]

Originally posted by Hare+Guu!:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1609442523
Forgot to take out the sharp jewel though, but whatever. Even "100%" affinity isn't foolproof with master's touch.

Especially when you post a build that doesn't even have 100% affinity.

Originally posted by Hare+Guu!:

Also, Grunge + white = 290 raw attack. Diablos with elementless + blue = 303.

Where did you pull out these random numbers from?
These are two optimized sets for Blos and Jho glaives:
Tyrannis Glaive[honeyhunterworld.com]
Grunge Storm[honeyhunterworld.com]
on blue sharpness (that you can get by removing the Handicraft deco), Blos efR goes down to 453.6 vs 465.7 on white for Jho.
This is not even counting that Jho can maintain 100% affinity even while running health augment.

Originally posted by Linguistically Inept:

... oh wait; its impossible to have all those skills together (not to mention the 3* critical boost and elementless youd undoubtedly want too); which is where claw comes in

Too bad I just posted one with all those skills (minus CB3 - but the raw is so high that even on CB2 you will be doing more than any other glaive).
Feel free to post your 499 efR Claw build though.

[Linguistically Inept]

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

Originally posted by Linguistically Inept:

... oh wait; its impossible to have all those skills together (not to mention the 3* critical boost and elementless youd undoubtedly want too); which is where claw comes in

Too bad I just posted one with all those skills (minus CB3 - but the raw is so high that even on CB2 you will be doing more than any other glaive).
Feel free to post your 499 efR Claw build though.

fair, i didnt notice i still had crit boost in athena; but again; QoL build, not speedrun build, that means health augment

my build is bad because the efficiency could be better you're right (half the time that last level in crit eye isnt even doing anything), but for what that loadout slot is trying accomplish (again; not pure raw) i still think claw is the best

[(ノ°□°)ノ]

Originally posted by Linguistically Inept:

fair, i didnt notice i still had crit boost in athena; but again; QoL build, not speedrun build, that means health augment

my build is bad because the efficiency could be better you're right (half the time that last level in crit eye isnt even doing anything), but for what that loadout slot is trying accomplish (again; not pure raw) i still think claw is the best

If you're looking for QoL, i dont think claw would even be better than using a luna weapon though
https://imgur.com/a/PEQeWhd
These are probably the better builds at the moment for glaive

[Linguistically Inept]

Originally posted by (╯°▽°)╯ ┻━┻:

Originally posted by Linguistically Inept:

fair, i didnt notice i still had crit boost in athena; but again; QoL build, not speedrun build, that means health augment

my build is bad because the efficiency could be better you're right (half the time that last level in crit eye isnt even doing anything), but for what that loadout slot is trying accomplish (again; not pure raw) i still think claw is the best

If you're looking for QoL, i dont think claw would even be better than using a luna weapon though
https://imgur.com/a/PEQeWhd
These are probably the better builds at the moment for glaive

oh thats a good point; i havent made any luna IGs yet (waiting for xeno event to come back because im out of... horns and something else icr; from making other luna weps and farming xeno is boring as ♥♥♥♥) alright maybe claw isnt the best for what im going for

[Stationary Traveller]

Originally posted by Linguistically Inept:

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

Too bad I just posted one with all those skills (minus CB3 - but the raw is so high that even on CB2 you will be doing more than any other glaive).
Feel free to post your 499 efR Claw build though.

fair, i didnt notice i still had crit boost in athena; but again; QoL build, not speedrun build, that means health augment

For QoL Jho is still the best choice together with Luna Ruin. It also has the benefit of not needing any extremely rare deco (Max Might is the rarest one) and unlike Luna or Claw it doesn't need rely on Peak Performance to get decent damage, so you can also use it against DoT-heavy monsters like Lunastra or Vaal.
Claw might be viable only if you really want to play a heavily aerial IG since it doesn't rely on MM to get to max affinity, but I'm not even sure it's the best choice in that case. Besides, with the low motion values of the aerial moves you are probably better to use that style with an elemental glaive, which means giving up on MT to get Critical Element in.

[Dallagen]

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

Originally posted by Linguistically Inept:

fair, i didnt notice i still had crit boost in athena; but again; QoL build, not speedrun build, that means health augment

For QoL Jho is still the best choice together with Luna Ruin. It also has the benefit of not needing any extremely rare deco (Max Might is the rarest one) and unlike Luna or Claw it doesn't need rely on Peak Performance to get decent damage, so you can also use it against DoT-heavy monsters like Lunastra or Vaal.
Claw might be viable only if you really want to play a heavily aerial IG since it doesn't rely on MM to get to max affinity, but I'm not even sure it's the best choice in that case. Besides, with the low motion values of the aerial moves you are probably better to use that style with an elemental glaive, which means giving up on MT to get Critical Element in.

IMHO you're better off with ele airborne + MT over critical element on IG.

IGs barely hit fast enough for CE to be worth it usually