what's the point of bowguns?

[76561198280799528]

-They have mediocre damage, save for clusterspam and some spread builds like the Glutton HBG.

-they have pretty bad range considering they're supposed to be ranged weapons

-they use limited ammo, wich means you can run out of bullets before a fight is done.

-it's bloody expensive.

-reload animations.

-you can get OHKO'd with them

I've used them a fair bit already, both LBGs and HBGs, and yeah, they're not useless bad, but when I think about their effectiveness I always find that using some melee weapon or a bow is much better than bowguns, especially bows, they're just a better ranged weapon to have.

[zero]

ranged, high damage, fun for some, easy to make and farm materials form.

[Thundaga]

It's a different playstyle, that enough is reason.

[Nine]

How is getting OHKO'd a unique issue to bowguns?

[It's a Trap]

LBG is not very fun to play. alot of damage in group and basically no skilled required. HBG does alot of damage and are good support builds also. Cluster spamming is kinda lame but easy quick farming. Spread kinda ruins HBG for me cuz its just flat out to easy to kill anything in half the time it should. I really enjoy Sticky KO builds. if my team is good ill get 2 KO on a monster if they are not as good then 3+. the healing from sticky means you never have to stop spamming and the only thing you really need is artillary 3 as attack boost does very very little so its simple and safe with alot of group benefits. also with shield decoration and shield mod you can block anything in game to stop you from carting. HBG good! lbg bad!

[Stationary Traveller]

You're wrong on every point aside from expensiveness. It's useless to even reply in detail. Try to do some research first?

[76561198055083273]

LBGs, at least with the rapid fire bullets, has amazing range and great damage if you choose to use the element weakness of the current monster you're fighting

[Toru_VMO]

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

You're wrong on every point aside from expensiveness. It's useless to even reply in detail. Try to do some research first?

pretty much this. I solo'd 90% of the game using LBG and pierce ammo, I even found bazelgeuse to be one of the easiest monsters to fight just from how effective pierce ammo was against him

[Rodbatt]

Originally posted by LoveCanBloomOnaBattlefield:

It's a different playstyle, that enough is reason.

This.

Charge blade is considered one of the most damaging weapons but I don't find that relevant enough for me to play.
The criteria people use to pick weapons is different. The part of you running out of bullets is not true at all. If you just pick any HBG LBG with no regards for it's strong and weak points in terms of ammo availability well that's on you.

[Brigadeos]

Whats the point of life?

[76561198280799528]

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

You're wrong on every point aside from expensiveness. It's useless to even reply in detail. Try to do some research first?

I did, I just found them to be that way.

Pierce is the only kind of ammo that has any real range to it, too bad that when it comes to dealing damage it sucks badly and it works only on a few monsters.
Spread is point blank range and one of the few ammo types that deal significant ammounts of damage, followed by slicing and sticky ammo, Cluster is great too, but it's too unfriendly towards co-op unless everyone is playing ranged weapons.
With Normal ammo you can stay at medium distance from the monster but only if it's a HBG, because LBGs optimal distance for normal ammo is almost the same as spread.

It just seems to me that bowguns aren't ranged weapons, but glorified melee shotguns with a few utility tools on the side and a joke level option for ranged damage.

Originally posted by Brigadeos:

Whats the point of life?

maybe people misunderstood my post?, what I mean to ask is where is their place in the META besides clusterspam and spread ammo.

for all the rest of their gameplay they seem to be pretty sub-par.

[Toru_VMO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb2zz_YuA4E

[Kyukyu]

Originally posted by the fakir:

They have mediocre damage

You either don't know how to play it or how to build around it then. If you want good damage with a LBG, use a LBG that can rapidfire the elemental ammo the monster is weak against. If you want to do good damage with a HBG, you either use a good spread or pierce one (though pierce is way less useful as spread is superior on almost every monster). It's as simple as that.

[Katitoff]

Originally posted by the fakir:

-They have mediocre damage, save for clusterspam and some spread builds like the Glutton HBG.

-they have pretty bad range considering they're supposed to be ranged weapons

100% ammo dependent + you are not supposed to be a sniper, its a ranged weapon, but you're still suppose to fight the monster, not snipe it from afar(unless you use Pierce or Sticky).
I also wouldn't call 100-160 damage per shot "medicore", considering how often you can land these shots.
Each ammo type requires full armor build to work, its not like melee, where you can just pick any armor and any weapon and it'll work, then you just go for offense or defense depending on how well you can play.

Originally posted by the fakir:

-they use limited ammo, wich means you can run out of bullets before a fight is done.

Only if you are extremely bad at aiming at weakspots, don't know weakspots, have terrible build that does not support your bowgun ammo type or don't know that you're supposed to bring extra mats to craft more ammo on the fly.
I can solo monsters with sticky ammo without having to go once to camp for refil.

Originally posted by the fakir:

-it's bloody expensive.

Only at start.

Originally posted by the fakir:

-reload animations.

D'UUUUH...

Originally posted by the fakir:

-you can get OHKO'd with them

Unless you are one of these gunners who actually know how to play, then you will never be hit once by anything.

Originally posted by the fakir:

I've used them a fair bit already, both LBGs and HBGs, and yeah, they're not useless bad, but when I think about their effectiveness I always find that using some melee weapon or a bow is much better than bowguns, especially bows, they're just a better ranged weapon to have.

Bows are pure DPS.
Bowguns provide additionally crapload of utility and crowd control with their status and sticky ammo

[Asphe]

Originally posted by the fakir:

Pierce is the only kind of ammo that has any real range to it, too bad that when it comes to dealing damage it sucks badly and it works only on a few monsters.
Spread is point blank range and one of the few ammo types that deal significant ammounts of damage, followed by slicing and sticky ammo,

Ever try dragon ammo? Slicing does significant amount of damage? In the current MHW? You do a bit more damage with Spread/etc if you are NOT at point blank range. [i.e. critical distance]

The KT event just finished recently... what was the preferred part breaker weapon for many players?

.. and so on... it just take more preparation time. Plus some of us just like the 'pew pew' part ^_^.

You just have to pick the right gun plus the right ammo. It's not even expensive (cultivation) or even 'free' if you just go gather the stuff.

Meh, or just bring a bow and forget about it ^_^

*You can craft in the field even while in combat, so you can "carry" up to nine Mega Bombs without farcasting back to restock or picking up mats. I can reload my entire stock of piercing ammo, three times over with this. Plus for some reason, the game allows you to craft stuff like a Cluster bomb, while falling off a cliff or running from Negi...

[76561198280799528]

Originally posted by Katitoff:

Bows are pure DPS.
Bowguns provide additionally crapload of utility and crowd control with their status and sticky ammo

Bows are not all DPS, they can build KO's too if you focus the head with spread or arc shots, and they also have acess to status coatings just like a bowgun would use status ammo, the main difference is that they don't use some stupid limited ammo to deal damage, they have more range and they're also better at DPS compared to bowguns.

Bows are just better at everything compared to bowguns IMO.