Defender shield V vs diablos tyrranis II

[Goleeha]

Which is better? DS has a bit less damage but more affinity, blast dmg and white sharpness, so i think it's better right?

[Bledj]

I did some calculus and as long as you keep the sharpness white, the overall damage of the defender V is better. Diablos does 828*1.20=993.6 and defender 792*1.32=1045.44

[mewlynx]

Originally posted by Bledj:

I did some calculus and as long as you keep the sharpness white, the overall damage of the defender V is better. Diablos does 828*1.20=993.6 and defender 792*1.32=1045.44

You can NEB Tyrannis, doesn't look like you accounted for that. I'd imagine Tyrannis II/Taroth Horn would still be best, but I haven't bothered to do any calculations.

[r∞l]

Nope, meta still diablos.
SAED scales with raw, this is why diablos has been king since the very start.

[Seamus]

At least until iceborne when we get savage axe and the meta changes.

[Remi]

Defender is better, pretty substantially too.
Doesn't matter tho because it's only the best for one month, then we'll bask in the glory of Luna Eostre.

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by Remi:

Defender is better, pretty substantially too.
Doesn't matter tho because it's only the best for one month, then we'll bask in the glory of Luna Eostre.

nah, diablos has been better since crit has never been a big deal for phial dumping on impact phials. and with blast, defender cannot benefit from non ele boost. meaning you have to make up that missing damage in your blast procs and axe crits. something a real SAED build doesnt worry about for impact phial. sure you still try to hit them with your axe using diablos but your not overall worried about its damage, jsut the 6 phials slaming into a monster and stunning them and dealing lots of damage compared to your axe hit.

[Remi]

Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:

Originally posted by Remi:

Defender is better, pretty substantially too.
Doesn't matter tho because it's only the best for one month, then we'll bask in the glory of Luna Eostre.

nah, diablos has been better since crit has never been a big deal for phial dumping on impact phials. and with blast, defender cannot benefit from non ele boost. meaning you have to make up that missing damage in your blast procs and axe crits. something a real SAED build doesnt worry about for impact phial. sure you still try to hit them with your axe using diablos but your not overall worried about its damage, jsut the 6 phials slaming into a monster and stunning them and dealing lots of damage compared to your axe hit.

CB has always been about physical damage, the misconception that phials are a majority of damage is hella annoying.

[Kaldor Draigo]

People saying Horn and Tyrannis are better must be playing CB like a ranged weapon or something.

You can have almost 100% of affinity with Defender, with attack augment, health augment, tons of white sharpness and blast procs.
To play CB properly you hit with your axe, in your SAED's, in your AED's, and whenever you're using sword and shield to charge phials, you are doing crits.

To people spamming SAED without thinking too much and not even connecting with axe hits, yeah Horn/Tyrannis is better because you phials are doing more damage.

To people who properly aim their SAED's, Defender is sadly better, with every hit you are doing crits, which leads to more DPS regardless of having less damage in your phials.

[Angel]

it's better if you can't saed spam the monster also you can maintain sharpness much more easily with it, however if you can saed spam the monster the taroth CB is better, BUT, when iceborne comes because of the nerf to non elemental boost and the buff to critical eye it will outperform the taroth CB (also juicy savage axe)

until you get master rank weapons of course