Normal shot charm ?

[CMDR.FREEZER]

Hey hunters.

Just wondering if this Normal Shot charm is worth it for bows if i have to give up weakness exploit charm that is currently giveing me 1 out of 3/3 into weakness exploit ?

[Champ]

Constitution charm is best for elemental bow builds. You lose more gem slots with any other charm since you only need the 3 constitution levels and you get all 3 from the charm. Normal shot comes with diablos greaves i believe. Weakness exploit is on all sorts of armor peices.

[Gotsa]

normal up, if you use normal shots, is worth it because its a flat 10% damage increase on everything. (and then you can crit for even more). this skill supercedes any other single skill you can obtain its the most you can get from a single skill.

its however not advised to get it from charm because you can have up to 3 other skills of your choice on a charm, even something as basic as attack which could be combined with normal up as a decoration or the diablos legs.

so in short, its not worth it to have the normal up charm.
instead go for something like diablos leggings, and kaiser B gloves, and dragonking eyepatch A if you want exploit weakness 3/3 and normal up. this leaves an open charm slot to complement and fill whatever else you would like with those 2 skills. (and thats already looking like a halfway decent general bow build)

[Lack of Stuff]

No it is not worth it. WEX charm is also not great since your gonna want 2 rath pieces for crit element and the Rath chest has WEX. Dragonking Eyepatch and Teo braces provide WEX too. If you want normal or spread and you don't have the decos then go for Diablo Nero (black diablo) greaves or Lavasioth greaves.

[CMDR.FREEZER]

i am useing the dragonking eyepatch right now. Now i am not any high HR or anything, only 48 soon, and havent been getting into builds and all that just yet. Apart from the Dragonking eyepatch i am running full set odogaron gear which i've used ever since i got into high rank

[Xyton]

The best way to play Bow is Critical Element. I would highly advise not to use the normal shot charm as it's pretty bad efficiency wise. You want the Constitution 3 Charm to help manage your stamina with Bow. As for Weakness Exploit, Rath Mail B will give you 2 points of Weakness exploit and you can get your third from the Kaiser Vambraces B which will give you 1 point of WE as well as a lvl 3 decoration slot. Then have the Rath Soul Helm B which will give you Crit Boost 1 as well as give you Critical Element when worn with the Rath Mail B.

If you want Normal Shots, wear the Diablos Nero Greaves B until you get the decoration. But Spread Up is better than Normal Shots so I would advise going for the Lavasioth Greaves B instead. Then you can pretty much run anything for waist that fits your build. If you want more slots, Uragaan Coil B gives a level 2 and a level 1 decoration slots as well as 1 point into Part Breaker. Diablos Greaves B is a good one too for even more stamina management since it gives 2 points into Marathon runner.

[Venusgate]

Do you have a tenderizer gem you can plug in somewhere?

[CMDR.FREEZER]

Originally posted by Venusgate:

Do you have a tenderizer gem you can plug in somewhere?

i dont recognize that name for a gem, so i highly doubt it. what does it do ?

[Seamus]

Originally posted by FREEZER:

Originally posted by Venusgate:

Do you have a tenderizer gem you can plug in somewhere?

i dont recognize that name for a gem, so i highly doubt it. what does it do ?

Weakness Exploit

[CMDR.FREEZER]

Originally posted by TonyVietnameseNinja:

The best way to play Bow is Critical Element. I would highly advise not to use the normal shot charm as it's pretty bad efficiency wise. You want the Constitution 3 Charm to help manage your stamina with Bow. As for Weakness Exploit, Rath Mail B will give you 2 points of Weakness exploit and you can get your third from the Kaiser Vambraces B which will give you 1 point of WE as well as a lvl 3 decoration slot. Then have the Rath Soul Helm B which will give you Crit Boost 1 as well as give you Critical Element when worn with the Rath Mail B.

If you want Normal Shots, wear the Diablos Nero Greaves B until you get the decoration. But Spread Up is better than Normal Shots so I would advise going for the Lavasioth Greaves B instead. Then you can pretty much run anything for waist that fits your build. If you want more slots, Uragaan Coil B gives a level 2 and a level 1 decoration slots as well as 1 point into Part Breaker. Diablos Greaves B is a good one too for even more stamina management since it gives 2 points into Marathon runner.

Thanks for the tip, i'll look into that. I dont seem to get many lvl 3 decorations yet, perhaps i am not HR high enough for the "Good stuff" decorations yet.

[CMDR.FREEZER]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Originally posted by FREEZER:

i dont recognize that name for a gem, so i highly doubt it. what does it do ?

Weakness Exploit

nope, i defo dont have that.

[Goilveig]

Originally posted by TonyVietnameseNinja:

If you want Normal Shots, wear the Diablos Nero Greaves B until you get the decoration. But Spread Up is better than Normal Shots so I would advise going for the Lavasioth Greaves B instead.

In theory, spread is better, IF you consistently hit with all arrows of spread shots. I actually end up often doing a dash > normal > dash because I am not positioned well to put all the spread shots into a weak point, and it's not worth the stamina usage.

Very often I'll end up doing dash > normal > dash > normal > spread > ... because only about half of the time will I be in a good position to shoot the spread shot.

I actually would prioritize normal shot for elemental bow just because you will do this every dash dance cycle without fail, while sometimes you'll skip spread.

Anyhow, OP, a good all-around elemental bow build is:

Rath Soul Helm B (Azure Rathalos)
Rathalos Chest B
Kaiser Gloves B (Teostra)
Odogaron Waist B
Diablos Nero Greaves B (Black Diablos)

This gives you 3/3 weakness exploit, critical element, critical up, Critical Eye 2, and Normal Shots.

Your best gems would be Spread/Power Shots gem in the gloves, Mighty Bow Jewel in the pants, enough [Element] Attack gems to the point your elemental attack doesn't go up any more, and then fill the rest with Critical Eye gems.

[glythe]

You get normal shot from either your boots or a gem.

Neckalce slots are way too valuable to waste on either a single 3 slot gem or 3x 1 slot gems.

As a bow/hbg/lbg user you can get 6 gems worth from the weakness exploit 2 charm. Then you put your 3 slot gem in the teostra glove B to get either normal or spread shot (and wear the boots for the other if you use the bow specifically).

[Ragosta tin Dei]

If you must have normal shots get Diablos Nero Greaves. Do not waste the charm slot on normal shots, all bow builds (except DP) use consitution charm.

[CMDR.FREEZER]

I am actually alittle confused. you guys speak about charms being so valuable, yet all the charms in my crafting list give only 1 point into certain skils ?

[Lack of Stuff]

Originally posted by FREEZER:

I am actually alittle confused. you guys speak about charms being so valuable, yet all the charms in my crafting list give only 1 point into certain skils ?

You need to upgrade the charms at the workshop.