Gunlance being too weak ?

[Mors Ad Te Venit]

All is in the title

I''ve beaten the whole game playing only GL and without too much problems killing all the Elders (the hardest one was the Kushala Daora) so I'm not complaining about that but about the fact that when I listen to other people talking about their DPS with other weapons I feel like i'm far behind them.

Am I the only one feeling like this ?

[Rogue]

Learn to use the unload all shells combo then attach spike rotationand then reload, huge burst damage. I can do this almost continously...

The wyvern blast is situational.

I still prefer lance :)

[Chouno]

lance and gunlance are great; It's the only class in the whole game that can remotely tank. Just gem in provoker and get a guard set and your team will worship you.

The whole point of the class is to make it so your higher dps classes don't waste all this extra time repositioning. Not to mention the quick attacks and punishes allow you to continue blocking.

Besides solo dps comparison is stupid, support classes that everyone loves to have but rarely play would pretty much always fall in the bottom; which in actual matches are godsends.

Keep on lancing you crazy diamond.

[ICountFrom0]

Spend a little time fishing to get a stack of whetsone + scales and you can put the gems into something else.

Do you have enough master balls to catch ALL of us?

[Voodoo]

引用自 ICountFrom0：

Spend a little time fishing to get a stack of whetsone + scales and you can put the gems into something else.

Do you have enough master balls to catch ALL of us?

Having to farm vs using up 3 slots.

3 slots win every day im afraid.

[Katitoff]

Lance is fine and fun.

What you lack in burst damage(you really don't), you make up by being glued to a monster and poking and poking and poking.

[Ydyp]

引用自 Cracotte：

引用自 BlazinMonkey：

Do you even play gun lance?

Honestly, wtf is this advice?

Yes I do, maybe you don't like the idea that shelling is still not the best damage output for GL, but it is the truth.

Agree the problem with shelling is that it doesn't realy scale to well to later game, but it is still great to break parts as it deals true dmg. So it does still has its uses, just not for keeping up high dps.

[CHAO$$$]

引用自 Luctus：

Gunlance is actually ludicrously powerful. The fact that you can sit there and tank hits only to immediately shove a lance in something and blow it the f-k up makes it exceedingly powerful. People are just too dumb to utilize its outplay mechanics.

Making liberal use of its defensive mechanics and shelling is how you make it shine. Will your individual damage ticks be as high as most of the purely offensive weapons? No, but the individual hits don't need to be as high. You will more than compensate for the difference by just never having to waste your time and stamina avoiding attacks. Instead, you block and counter. You can stick to a monster almost as well as the regular lance.

or you know , you could do that with the normal lance and get a full block (which blocks more and heavier attacks than the normal version)+big counter hit damage instead and you get a a running charge that is faster than normal running at top speed as well

the gunlance is ♥♥♥♥, it offers nothing that another weapon doesnt do better

add low mobility and long sheath animations on top of that and you have literally the worst weapon in the game right there

[Smug Kot]

引用自 CHAO$$$：

引用自 Luctus：

Gunlance is actually ludicrously powerful. The fact that you can sit there and tank hits only to immediately shove a lance in something and blow it the f-k up makes it exceedingly powerful. People are just too dumb to utilize its outplay mechanics.

Making liberal use of its defensive mechanics and shelling is how you make it shine. Will your individual damage ticks be as high as most of the purely offensive weapons? No, but the individual hits don't need to be as high. You will more than compensate for the difference by just never having to waste your time and stamina avoiding attacks. Instead, you block and counter. You can stick to a monster almost as well as the regular lance.

or you know , you could do that with the normal lance and get a full block (which blocks more and heavier attacks than the normal version)+big counter hit damage instead and you get a a running charge that is faster than normal running at top speed as well

the gunlance is ♥♥♥♥, it offers nothing that another weapon doesnt do better

add low mobility and long sheath animations on top of that and you have literally the worst weapon in the game right there

sorry i cant hear you while im doing my burst+swipe combo dealing constant over 300+ dps melting every monster in seconds.

also doing it anywhere becouse shelling ignore monster defences.

if someone its curious about it:

lunging thrust:60 + (rising slash:60+ burst shelling:198+ swipe: 160+)*2 wyrmstake:230+

a full combo vs a stuned monster would deal: 1126+ dps, so gunlance its a powerhouse if used correctly.

[Val]

Royal Burst + Handicraft + Stamin Thief + Artillery + Weakness Exploit = You can infinite combo a monster till he dies.

[Smug Kot]

The only problem Gunlance has now its the lack of decent ones, but it will be fixed soon with taroth.

right now you only solid choises are :

Royal: Burst combo style, easy the one with the biggest dps in game if you land you infinite.

Vaal: Mixed bag, you can go burst combo or charged chelling and do great damage.

Zhora magdaros: Charged shelling only, great for poking and giving a ♥♥♥♥ about weak points can easy ditch 110 with every shell.

Pure Raw/nergigante: Super boring but the TRUE dps monster, just do swipe + reload infinite combo without burst. (gunlance without burst or shelling ? at that point just pick other weapon IMO)

[Goritude]

引用自 Cracotte：

If you're looking for min/max damage, you don't need either artillery, capacity up nor any lvl 4 shell type, since the strongest dps output is gonna be performed by Slapstick gameplay. Wich means no shelling. You just build like any other weapon, and you do the infinite combo on repeat.

Now, if you want to add shelling because you play GL for the explosions, then yes, you'll be gimping your damage output no matter which playstyle, but Full burst is still strong, even though its recovery time is terrible. Same goes for wyrmstake.

What is the infinite combo ?

[Prinny]

引用自 Mors Ad Te Venit：

All is in the title

lol what, gunlance has always been powerfull tho, i use it since day 1 and it's godlike

[Smug Kot]

引用自 Goritude：

引用自 Cracotte：

If you're looking for min/max damage, you don't need either artillery, capacity up nor any lvl 4 shell type, since the strongest dps output is gonna be performed by Slapstick gameplay. Wich means no shelling. You just build like any other weapon, and you do the infinite combo on repeat.

Now, if you want to add shelling because you play GL for the explosions, then yes, you'll be gimping your damage output no matter which playstyle, but Full burst is still strong, even though its recovery time is terrible. Same goes for wyrmstake.

What is the infinite combo ?

Lunging thurst + overhead smash + burst + swipe + reload + overhead smash + burst + swipe + reload to infinity.

you can skip burst, lunging thurst can be replaced by rising slash.

Also the Burst vs Raw its not true AT ALL, royal guard the best burst weapon in game right now stand his ground vs pure Raw. i dont doubt swipe only its extremely powerful when you are doped with all the attack buffs.

And when taroth weapon get released we will get a lot of elementless gunlance with normal Lvl4 and even WIDE LVL 4 ! so win win having the best raw and shelling at the same time.

[Ragosta tin Dei]

It's a stupid argument. Gunlance deals consistent damage over time. You're supposed to take calculated pokes, striking when the monster's blows get blocked. It's not for speedruns you'll get better times from LS, DB, Bow or HBG.

Gunlancers deal high poke damage, and are expected to be the last hunters standing.

[Goritude]

引用自 Dio-Mando：

引用自 Goritude：

What is the infinite combo ?

Lunging thurst + overhead smash + burst + swipe + reload + overhead smash + burst + swipe + reload to infinity.

you can skip burst, lunging thurst can be replaced by rising slash.

Also the Burst vs Raw its not true AT ALL, royal guard the best burst weapon in game right now stand his ground vs pure Raw.

And when taroth weapon get released we will get a lot of elementless gunlance with normal Lvl4 and even WIDE LVL 4 ! so win win having the best raw and shelling at the same time.

So u recommend Royal Burst GL ? And which skills ?