Teostra is broken as all hell

[Umbreon™]

So I've been enjoying MHW so far quite a lot and now that I've reached elder dragons it's been getting much more difficult like it should, I already killed Nergigante and Kushala daora just fine without too much trouble. I went farming other things just for fun and to get a proper armor set to stick to for the time being (high rank Rathalos). So I start the Teostra quest instead of procastinating it further, and expect an extremely tedious fight just like in the previous games. What I got was even worse than every single other installment.

MHW's Teostra is absolutely unfair and it's not simply the kind of thing where you just have to learn the boss's patterns, instead you're pretty much forced into some genuinely dumb things like the fact Teostra got his own dedicated arena that is specifically made to kill you faster, with the lava on the borders and the lava hazards that spring up around the arena randomly and essentially blocking you off from one half of the arena while it's active, and if it does hit you you're simply launched for almost no damage but it sets you up for Teostra to destroy you easily if you don't get lucky enough for it to not target you.
Then there's the fact that its supernova got buffed unnecessarily, making it even more dangerous than it already was in previous games with almost no foreshadowing - My first faint in the quest was pretty early due to that and all the visual clutter in the arena that didn't allow me to see the single second foreshadowing for the strongest attack in the entire franchise. I accepted it and prepared for a second fight.
At one point it bumps into me and places down this ''fire'' on the ground that actually turns out to be blastblight and is very hard to make out from the usual fire on ground hazard. Teostra forced me into the hazard and it inflicts blastblight but instead of allowing me to dodge, it blows up *instantly* without any kind of build up at all, to the point the handler had only started explaining blastblight by when I was already dead. That faint was much more unfair than the supernova one.
Then I turtle the rest of the quest trying to avoid the third faint and I managed to make it limp, but it goes back to its dedicated arena as if to make sure things go the worst way possible. After some massive set up with sleep bombing, might pills, adamant seeds and astera jerky, it knocked me over into the lava hazard which launched me up and then landed on some blast hazard just like my second faint, but i survived this time and managed to heal up. But then Teostra charges me twice, which triggers a stun that would make any other in my entire playtime look meaningless. As soon as it stunned me, it unironically charges up its supernova ASAP and kills me at almost point blank. There was no way to get out of that, simply accept that I had lost the quest by force.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422178813993025536/483853825183055872/unknown.png
There's the ''rewards'' screen, showcasing the stun and the supernova being charged up. I guess I atleast got a consolation prize there, but it doesn't make up for how dumb this was. This happened to actually be my first failed quest in the entire game (other than stupidly killing a capture target on two occasions). I would have preferred to die to Nergigante or Kushala over a stun.
Overall, MHW's Teostra is absolutely unfun to play against and is genuinely the worst I've seen in the entire franchise. Atleast MH4U's Teostra was still doable, even if people fainted very easily on multiplayer. Guess I'll be holding out from this quest for a while.

[Dyvawn]

Saw his bomb powder spreading and roll away didn't notice someone staggered it a little -> waiting for it to explode from far -> it fades after awhile -> what am I doing?

[Bdeslaurs]

Git gud

[ERROR1018]

Umm he makes the pose for a solid 2 seconds for Supernova, unless your situational awareness is really bad you have time to run towards a less damaging part of the zone.

Yeah, if you get stunned and then he supernovas, you're gonna have a bad time. :/

Did you eat before the hunt? It might just be time to bring in friends.

[yusha]

sucks 2 suck i guess

[Umbreon™]

Originally posted by ERROR1018:

Umm he makes the pose for a solid 2 seconds for Supernova, unless your situational awareness is really bad you have time to run towards a less damaging part of the zone.

Yeah, if you get stunned and then he supernovas, you're gonna have a bad time. :/

Did you eat before the hunt? It might just be time to bring in friends.

What do you mean if I ate? Of course I would have. Not eating for any quest is asking for trouble. I ate before the quest and after every faint.
And if you would read, I accepted the first faint to the supernova. The third faint was forceful. Read it.

[Amos]

I mean his only really dangerous attack (rest is basically any monster ever) can be flashpod away or dive away (if you time it right).

Also yeah his arena is bloody annoying (mostly because it kills my FPS), but when I failed the quest once and then retried, he just gave up on his arena mostly and fought in a more open space where it was much easier to deal with.

[anixal]

Jewel for stun resistance then, learn his attacks, pay attention to the floor lava cracks and you won't get hit by them, use your cats horn to get stun resistance that way. Ton of ways to avoid death and it's just simply you not knowing how he works I thought you were going to complain about fps drops that'd be "broken".

[Umbreon™]

Originally posted by Amos:

I mean his only really dangerous attack (rest is basically any monster ever) can be flashpod away or dive away (if you time it right).

Also yeah his arena is bloody annoying (mostly because it kills my FPS), but when I failed the quest once and then retried, he just gave up on his arena mostly and fought in a more open space where it was much easier to deal with.

It's mostly that dumb arena that got me the most. Whenever it was outside that arena the fight was much more fair and manageable. But it went back to it when it was weak and that was enough to make me lose.

[Umbreon™]

Originally posted by anixal:

Jewel for stun resistance then, learn his attacks, use your cats horn to get stun resistance that way. Ton of ways to avoid death and it's just simply you not knowing how he works I thought you were going to complain about fps drops that'd be "broken".

I had already learned his attacks. It's that third faint that was actually mostly because of the lava hazard launching me up and *directly* into some blastblight which triggered instantly. It's not that I don't know ''how he works''. He works just like in every previous installment, except with unnecessary buffs.

[Mystokai]

- You can remain on the ground to extend invulnerability period, since they cant hit you when you are knocked down. Thus avoiding getting cheap-shotted by some monsters.
- You can use ElderSeal weapons to ''seal'' away his flame and also prevent him from using Nova
- Or carry Flashpods like any normal hunter should.

Honestly,
If you got this far, why the sudden change of heart.

Your first failed quest? ... So what?

Dont you feel any sense of accomplishment when you beat a challange that seemed otherwise impossible?

[Umbreon™]

Originally posted by Mystokai:

- You can remain on the ground to extend invulnerability period, since they cant hit you when you are knocked down. Thus avoiding getting cheap-shotted by some monsters.
- You can use ElderSeal weapons to ''seal'' away his flame and also prevent him from using Nova

Honestly,
If you got this far, why the sudden change of heart.

Your first failed quest? ... So what?

Dont you feel any sense of accomplishment when you beat a challange that seemed otherwise impossible?

I know I can remain on the ground, but you can't actually do that if it happens to actually be a stun. You automatically get up. And the launch after the lava hazard wasn't the kind of launch that would let you stay down.

[Yosh]

Try to deny him the arena by flashing him when he flies back since you're more comfortable outside the arena.

[SweatyStoner IWNT]

git guder

[Umbreon™]

Originally posted by Kanoyeel:

Try to deny him the arena by flashing him when he flies back since you're more comfortable outside the arena.

I'll definitely be doing that next time, but I wasn't really in position to flash it before it did when it was weak.

[Vertutame]

And I though he's 2nd easiest elder dragons, the 1st is vaal hazak.

Don't play like dark souls, this is more than that, you can use environment, you can retreat, you can lure monster out, don't narrow your mind and think of better plan.