Deco Sniping

[RIKI]

so, anyone tried deco sniping? is it time consuming or worth it?

[Lemonidas of Sourta]

I'd like to, but I'm too lazy for it and my main set is complete anyways. Now just chilling and hunting and trying out new weapons as per the streamstone drops.

[RandalMcdaniel]

Originally posted by roppoqi:

so, anyone tried deco sniping? is it time consuming or worth it?

deco what?

[Angel]

people on console do it all the time, if there's something you want and you don't wanna waste resources and you have a bit of spare time, I'd say it's worth it for you to swing RNG a bit more in your favor

ultimately is depends how badly you want decorations

[Rinto]

its pc man, just use some mod, same result less time consuming

[fireandice]

Originally posted by Rinto:

its pc man, just use some mod, same result less time consuming

This

[Katitoff]

Originally posted by roppoqi:

so, anyone tried deco sniping? is it time consuming or worth it?

If you can't really live without some deco, just hack it in like the "modders" do.
You'll have one reason less to play the game.

[Mhblis]

Its time consuming and can be very lucrative.

It really all depends on how invested you are and the effort you put in.

I messed around with it to see how easy it was. And with the right recording tool the setup isn't too hard but having to record each meld and then work out your skip pattern takes a while.

Also its not worth it if you are only doing sort of 10 melds at a time. That maybe 3 or 4 hunts total. You want upwards of 50 at a time.

Then the actual sniping part can be a bit painful with the recording each hunt and meld to make sure you stay in pattern and so in.

But I was lucky that in the batch I did I got a fair few.super rare.decos and they opened up 3 new builds for me to.mess with.

Though decided for me.it wasntnworth the effort to find the last 3 i need to unlock the guard builds. I'll just play with a sub optimal uruugaan build until then.

[Dallagen]

If you're going to spend enough time deco sniping to get the 3 ironwall gems you need for your lance build without farming elders, just install Hex's deco drop rate mod and play the game normally.

You're still "cheating" but you aren't being quite as ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by rng AND can still be happy about any gems you get dropped.

The mod doesn't make your rare gems as common as a rarity 5 gem, but it DOES increase those chances, leaving a time investment still on the table, while not making you want to end yourself trying to get 5 attack gems.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSpxxcdDrk2vNFFolh4Xz6QPSZeavjszVcUj7rh3LCoBsxALCyR5k_VhF9EadWKOeDMbRNxbW0kNpEx/pubhtml# for the chances it adjusts along with the original rates side by side, you can find the mod yourself on nexus if you're actually interested.

I consider deco sniping more of a cheat than just installing this and doing tempered elders myself, but both are cheating.

[Stationary Traveller]

Yes, it is VERY time consuming.
And yes, it can be very worth it, but you still need to grind a lot and to have a lot of luck.

Originally posted by big munter:

I consider deco sniping more of a cheat than just installing this and doing tempered elders myself, but both are cheating.

Yeah but you're wrong. You're not altering the game files with deco sniping, hence not breaking EULA. Your license for the game can be revoked with that mod, not with deco sniping.
Not to mention Capcom could fix deco sniping very easily if they wanted to (and at this point it's clear they don't care)... but they could not fix people hacking the game files.
And finally, deco sniping is available for all platforms, which makes it more fair than PC hacks.

[Hykaro]

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

deco sniping is available for all platforms, which makes it more fair than PC hacks.

That did sound so pathetic rofl
use the same cheat method for fairness
wtf dude

[Dallagen]

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

Yes, it is VERY time consuming.
And yes, it can be very worth it, but you still need to grind a lot and to have a lot of luck.

Originally posted by big munter:

I consider deco sniping more of a cheat than just installing this and doing tempered elders myself, but both are cheating.

Yeah but you're wrong. You're not altering the game files with deco sniping, hence not breaking EULA. Your license for the game can be revoked with that mod, not with deco sniping.
Not to mention Capcom could fix deco sniping very easily if they wanted to (and at this point it's clear they don't care)... but they could not fix people hacking the game files.
And finally, deco sniping is available for all platforms, which makes it more fair than PC hacks.

They could easily fix the current method of modding the game, and some people are migrants from console to PC. They could also ban people for modding, but all they've said about modding is that they will not touch it unless it becomes a problem.

Deco sniping is cheating, modding is cheating.

Deco sniping requires a massive time investment with no guarantee of you getting what you want AND preventing you from playing the game normally.

Modifying the decoration drop rates to be more fair while not making them exceedingly common has no guarantee of you getting what you want, puts you at the mercy of RNG like any player, and lets you play the game normally without affecting any other player around you.

Deco sniping is subverting the game's systems and using outside tools to circumvent a safeguard capcom has placed on the game, it may not break the eula, but it's RNG manipulation, and by definition cheating.

Modification of the game's files is not infringing on the EULA in any specific way either. You are not accessing the game's source code, which is all that is covered by the EULA. You are accessing easily obtainable and non-obfuscated files which the game itself sideloads. If capcom were to disable the native functionality to sideload files from the "nativePC" folder in the game install directory, then any direct modification of the game files could be considered against the EULA.

Deco sniping exists on all platforms, but PC as always has it the easiest, able to backup and restore the save file much quicker than any console.

Once capcom starts handing out bans for modifying the singleplayer component of their game after explicitly stating they will not take action unless it becomes a problem, I will change my stance.

[fireandice]

Originally posted by Hykaro:

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

deco sniping is available for all platforms, which makes it more fair than PC hacks.

That did sound so pathetic rofl
use the same cheat method for fairness
wtf dude

moon is one of those antimod for any reason purist. Even if his arguments make little to no sense most of the time, he sticks by it through and through. At least he is consistant if nothing else.

[Dallagen]

Originally posted by fireandiceco:

Originally posted by Hykaro:

That did sound so pathetic rofl
use the same cheat method for fairness
wtf dude

moon is one of those antimod for any reason purist. Even if his arguments make little to no sense most of the time, he sticks by it through and through. At least he is consistant if nothing else.

YoU UsE TrAnSMoG????

Ps4 CaNt Do ThAt, gEt BanNed

[Stationary Traveller]

Originally posted by big munter:

Deco sniping requires a massive time investment with no guarantee of you getting what you want

So... exactly like playing the game, then.

Originally posted by big munter:

Modification of the game's files is not infringing on the EULA in any specific way either. You are not accessing the game's source code, which is all that is covered by the EULA. You are accessing easily obtainable and non-obfuscated files which the game itself sideloads. If capcom were to disable the native functionality to sideload files from the "nativePC" folder in the game install directory, then any direct modification of the game files could be considered against the EULA.

You should read again what EULA says. There's no way you can do something like adjusting the deco drops without infringing any part of it. Unless the game code is literally dropped in a decompiled form in the game directory.

Originally posted by fireandiceco:

Originally posted by Hykaro:

That did sound so pathetic rofl
use the same cheat method for fairness
wtf dude

moon is one of those antimod for any reason purist. Even if his arguments make little to no sense most of the time, he sticks by it through and through. At least he is consistant if nothing else.

I'm not antimod. I don't give a sh*t about what you do with your own game files. I just find very funny the whole "I want to cheat but just a little" idea of the balanced decos mod and of people who defend it. To me, if you're using that mod instead of the one that allows you to buy all decos you're just a moron. But it's just my opinion.
Also, get off my arse, thank you.

[Dallagen]

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

Originally posted by big munter:

Deco sniping requires a massive time investment with no guarantee of you getting what you want

So... exactly like playing the game, then.

Originally posted by big munter:

Modification of the game's files is not infringing on the EULA in any specific way either. You are not accessing the game's source code, which is all that is covered by the EULA. You are accessing easily obtainable and non-obfuscated files which the game itself sideloads. If capcom were to disable the native functionality to sideload files from the "nativePC" folder in the game install directory, then any direct modification of the game files could be considered against the EULA.

You should read again what EULA says. There's no way you can do something like adjusting the deco drops without infringing any part of it. Unless the game code is literally dropped in a decompiled form in the game directory.

Originally posted by fireandiceco:

moon is one of those antimod for any reason purist. Even if his arguments make little to no sense most of the time, he sticks by it through and through. At least he is consistant if nothing else.

I'm not antimod. I don't give a sh*t about what you do with your own game files. I just find very funny the whole "I want to cheat but just a little" idea of the balanced decos mod and of people who defend it. To me, if you're using that mod instead of the one that allows you to buy all decos you're just a moron. But it's just my opinion.
Also, get off my arse, thank you.

The game literally does drop it's files in a decompiled form in the game directory, packed into a easy to open chunk file that was unpackaged within a few days of release.