Any point getting expansion if you cant do G Rank?

[kconvey1]

Here is an interesting question, is there any point getting the expansions if you cant do G rank quests, or are there alot of new high and low rank monsters to tackle as well?

If the expansion is going to only be for G rank players isnt that playerbase rather... well miniscule especially in the US?

[Mr.Hmm]

At this point i doubt i can say.

Need more information on how the G-Rank will be in MHW.

[Hammer Of Evil]

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well, if you can't beat the normal game, or struggle and choke on HR monsters, don't bother getting iceborn. You'll probably be happier as a result. nothing wrong with struggling with the game though, it's an actually difficult game.

and ofc, obv the connection problems will never go away, so thats something that's making me retch inwardly at, as well. there's a dozen other problems too that can make someone not wanna buy it, not just hating fighting HR stuff.

but I reckon it's going to make tempered jho look like a small, cute lizard lol. i anticipate some bloody battle.

Yeah this is one of the big questions, is there going to be content for the LR/HR players or is it just G/Master rank.

Because I cant see them selling many copies if its only for G/Master rank players.

they may add some easier monster fights, but.. it could be super frustrating even getting those things. I'm expecting master rank to hit as hard as HR hits you when you're transitioning from LR to HR.

i'm expecting to feel like my current equipment is worthless as well. that hopeless feeling when that monster is coming at you, and you only have guts and a hammer to stop it.

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I'm pretty sure the difficulty of the expansion will be well balanced. Capcom's doing their best to appeal to new players, and having a really high difficulty curve is a risky business move.

^ this is a highminded view and particularly a practical one imo. i take the worst case scenario and end up being pleasantly surprised if it doesn't end up being that bad, so take from my thoughts what you will.

[ArtificialQT]

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Yeah this is one of the big questions, is there going to be content for the LR/HR players or is it just G/Master rank.

Because I cant see them selling many copies if its only for G/Master rank players.

Like i said, since you're familiar with MHGU go back and compare that with MHG. If you see any LR/HR content differences there you could probably expect a similar ratio in MHW: Iceborne.

[Xilo The Odd]

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All G rank is likely going to require is beating normal Xeno. That's not a hard task at all.

well in the past when guild hall and village quests were seperated the G rank version added some of the new content as high rank village missions and then you completed that to get into the gear you'd need for guild hall end high rank starter G rank. but this is back in the days of key quests and the story not being force fed into your eye holes.

im interested in how they will transition players into the new content, my guess is a monster that'll show up on the mainland and the new ice area is gonna be an introductory quest, you fight it, it retreats to the ice mass (either it'll reveal it or you go out to it by boat to figure out where the monster flew off too. which means it'll be a flying wyvern type monster.). once you arrive you go on a typical story expedition of the region and encounter all the basic creatures that dwell there. then your told to hunt one of em or return to assess the situation and then go out on a quest. rinse repeat for each new monster.

[JPM岩]

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Whats G rank? Its more difficult than AT monsters?

In theory yes, but we don't know for sure, since ATs are new in World. My guess is that Greatest Jagras is similar to GRank Jagras, with how it got a new move, more HP and such, and had a different attack pattern (more vomit). Theres also a lot more armor and even stronger weapons.

[Zelph]

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If you're familiar with MHGU, then you could just compare the content difference between that and MHG if you want a yardstick with which you can use to gauge gameplay affecting changes at Low/High Rank.

At least until we have more details of what's coming in Iceborne, at any rate.

My point being, is even in this game, what percentage of players can do the ultra hard tempered monsters... not many.. and if G rank is over this? 10% of the players would be able to do G rank? Maybe... and I think thats being generous?

Arch tempereds are not the same as g rank. G rank isn't as hard as people make it out to be, because you get even more armor. Right now, the highest armor is around 500. With g rank out, that will likely be 700-900. Creatures are faster, have new moves, and more damage/hp, but until you hit end game, it will effectively just be fighting slightly harder tempered creatures.

[Galewyn]

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My point being, is even in this game, what percentage of players can do the ultra hard tempered monsters... not many.. and if G rank is over this? 10% of the players would be able to do G rank? Maybe... and I think thats being generous?

Arch tempereds are not the same as g rank. G rank isn't as hard as people make it out to be, because you get even more armor. Right now, the highest armor is around 500. With g rank out, that will likely be 700-900. Creatures are faster, have new moves, and more damage/hp, but until you hit end game, it will effectively just be fighting slightly harder tempered creatures.

Finally someone who most likely actually played the older games or at least did their research.

I'm sick of people posting or saying G-Rank is only for gods of the series. I can't tell if people have that short of a memory or haven't even touched the older games.

If anyone wants to know which MH game is actually like that, check the Frontier series end game, THAT is actually way beyond any hard game in terms of difficulty. At least I think it is, hard to tell when you don't play them yourself.

[kconvey1]

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My point being, is even in this game, what percentage of players can do the ultra hard tempered monsters... not many.. and if G rank is over this? 10% of the players would be able to do G rank? Maybe... and I think thats being generous?

Arch tempereds are not the same as g rank. G rank isn't as hard as people make it out to be, because you get even more armor. Right now, the highest armor is around 500. With g rank out, that will likely be 700-900. Creatures are faster, have new moves, and more damage/hp, but until you hit end game, it will effectively just be fighting slightly harder tempered creatures.

My point is about 2/3 of the players who made it to HR 2, did not make it to the first tempered monster.

Most players dont make it to tempered, so harder than tempered is cutting off 2/3 or so of the playerbase.

[Xilo The Odd]

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AT is soloable content, i heard that AT is as hard as early G rank.

The guess is that it's as hard as early GRank, it's hard to tell seeing as we dont have GRank yet. Greatest Jagras is probs a better reference point

nah hes honestly not the best reference point, granted he is boosted in stats but those stats are waaaaay over bloated on certain attacks compared to others, resulting in meat flying through the air killing you, his stomp killing you, and a couple of other moves you shouldnt be getting hit by.

if we could achieve G rank armor levels and have it actually work 100% how it should, have access to weapons that reach 280 to 300 true raw, then we could judge the comparison but for now, i can say for sure in the old games if you went up against the entry level monster in G rank in full end tier high rank gear maxed out in every way possible, you would not be 1 shotted by anything.

[~KeNnEtH~]

G rank should be like Extreme Behemoth and Arch Tempered Xeno'Jiiva thereabout.

I am sure they will add some new quests for current difficulties too so I won't say it's gonna be pointless.

In fact, as of now, what it will have is all speculation.

I don't think Capcom announced that G rank is coming with the expansion even if that's what the expansions usually do for MH series but nobody can certainly say MHW can't be different. Maybe G rank will come in an even later expansion.

[Zelph]

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G rank should be like Extreme Behemoth and Arch Tempered Xeno'Jiiva thereabout.

I am sure they will add some new quests for current difficulties too so I won't say it's gonna be pointless.

In fact, as of now, what it will have is all speculation.

I don't think Capcom announced that G rank is coming with the expansion even if that's what the expansions usually do for MH series but nobody can certainly say MHW can't be different. Maybe G rank will come in an even later expansion.

G rank isn't even close to how hard they hit most of the time. G ranks main difficulty increase, aside from being like low to high rank again, is that they have increased move/attack speed, and a new move or two. Those aside, g rank creatures really don't hit all that crazy hard.

And they absolutely did announce master rank, which is going to be g rank for the game.

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Arch tempereds are not the same as g rank. G rank isn't as hard as people make it out to be, because you get even more armor. Right now, the highest armor is around 500. With g rank out, that will likely be 700-900. Creatures are faster, have new moves, and more damage/hp, but until you hit end game, it will effectively just be fighting slightly harder tempered creatures.

My point is about 2/3 of the players who made it to HR 2, did not make it to the first tempered monster.

Most players dont make it to tempered, so harder than tempered is cutting off 2/3 or so of the playerbase.

The players who don't make it past, won't make it past. No big deal. There is zero reason to cater to the low level players, world already does a ton of that.

[JPM岩]

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The guess is that it's as hard as early GRank, it's hard to tell seeing as we dont have GRank yet. Greatest Jagras is probs a better reference point

nah hes honestly not the best reference point, granted he is boosted in stats but those stats are waaaaay over bloated on certain attacks compared to others, resulting in meat flying through the air killing you, his stomp killing you, and a couple of other moves you shouldnt be getting hit by.

if we could achieve G rank armor levels and have it actually work 100% how it should, have access to weapons that reach 280 to 300 true raw, then we could judge the comparison but for now, i can say for sure in the old games if you went up against the entry level monster in G rank in full end tier high rank gear maxed out in every way possible, you would not be 1 shotted by anything.

Thats the thing tho, we have no idea how to gauge GRank at all in World outside of ATs and Greatest J.

[~KeNnEtH~]

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And they absolutely did announce master rank, which is going to be g rank for the game.

This is what we think it is.

It doesn't have to be G Rank because if it is 100% confirmed to be G Rank, they will call it G Rank.

[JPM岩]

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And they absolutely did announce master rank, which is going to be g rank for the game.

This is what we think it is.

It doesn't have to be G Rank because if it is 100% confirmed to be G Rank, they will call it G Rank.

They said Master Rank is the GRank equivalent. They're calling it Master Rank because the term "G" used in GRank is Japanese slang, and doesnt translate to the West, which is their main demographic for advertising

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

Im pretty sure a few of the new monsters will be on high rank. Nargu for sure as an example. G Rank does get hard yes but you also get better gear and such to compensate for this

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I'm gonna pass on Iceborne, unless monster HP scales for both solo and MP.

If fights drag on for much past 15 minutes, I quickly lose interest, and focus. Give G rank monsters x2.2-2.6x HP for automatic MP scaling, and I'll never kill one solo in under 15 mins. Assuming everything is gonna have 60k+ HP. Just not interested.

Well you wont like the dlc then for sure. There are many fights in the older games especially with the elder dragons plus new monsters that will take a while at first