Iceborne CB rework, will Savage Axe mode make Elemental & Affinity CB on-par with Impact?

[FinallyLoading]

As you'd guess and have you've seen the changes the CB will bring Savage Axe mode.
From E3 vids I've noticed something about this mode,

1. The Savage mode additive damage deals normal axe damage. This procs ~3 times

2. This mode will gradually drain phials when in axe mode and ends when it morphs to SnS

3. Activating this mode expends no phials

This means CB will share similar fighting style alike Switch Axe (though transitions are slower) as Savage Axe Mode will deal 4 hits per axe swing. This means more elemental DMG procs to occur.

Which made me think if it will make both Affinity and Elemental Charge blades able to compete with Impact CBs.

Possible combos that will be merged with Savage Axe is most notably Spinning Element Discharge & Upswing chain combos which deals 11 hits of damage from its original 3 hits. Which means it is effectively amplifying the overall damage for Elemental and Affinity.

Potentially this might scale even better with Elemental CBs and make them on par with Diablos Tyrannis and Kjarr Ice CB. (Perhaps Kjarr Ice CB will get super buffed with this XD)

What's your thoughts? Do you think Elemental CBs will have an edge against Diablos Tyrannis?

[Remi]

Depends. If SAED motion values are unchanged and phial damage still functions the same, Diablos and Tigrex CB will be the prime meta weapons. Elemental CB needs higher element numbers to keep up, and even then it's hitzone dependent so really inconsistent outside of Kulve and the such.
Savage Axe seems only worth using on a downed monster to get the maximum effect, whereas SAED and AED can halt a moving monster in its tracks.

Btw, affinity is always the main focus even on Impact phials, since the physical hits are your main damage. This will be even more the case with something like the Diablos CB in Master rank having like 350 true raw without elementless, imagine the crits on the axe swings with those numbers.

[Xilo The Odd]

yeah impact for general use is still going to be the meta, but the elementals will still have their thing for monsters with lots of good elemental hitzones.

[lmaogg]

to the devs SAED spam is just cancerous since it defeats 80% of the weapon's purpose. Great to see they make this new move to break that cycle.

[𝑅𝒾𝒾𝓃𝒶]

If they make all elemental CB hit like the Ice Kjarr then maybe because the cone is too wide, the phials are affected by zones and it lacks ko power, meanwhile impact phial give you everything and sweet KOs.

IMO the savage mode will rarely be used as there's no way it will deal more damage and faster than pure SAED, plus if I remember correctly it eats your sharpness really fast.

[FinallyLoading]

引用自 Lumika：

If they make all elemental CB hit like the Ice Kjarr then maybe because the cone is too wide, the phials are affected by zones and it lacks ko power, meanwhile impact phial give you everything and sweet KOs.

IMO the savage mode will rarely be used as there's no way it will deal more damage and faster than pure SAED, plus if I remember correctly it eats your sharpness really fast.

Well that's what master's touch is for,

[Xilo The Odd]

引用自 FinallyLoading：

引用自 Lumika：

If they make all elemental CB hit like the Ice Kjarr then maybe because the cone is too wide, the phials are affected by zones and it lacks ko power, meanwhile impact phial give you everything and sweet KOs.

IMO the savage mode will rarely be used as there's no way it will deal more damage and faster than pure SAED, plus if I remember correctly it eats your sharpness really fast.

Well that's what master's touch is for,

yeah this is also true, phials dont crit but, savage axe is a normal melee swings thats super charged by phials. so really you'd cancel out before you SAED or SAED into shield charge. and then coninue the onslaught. in terms of meta it probably wont be the top tier elemental damage weapon, but it'll be on par with some of the greats. time will tell though. in like, 3 and a half hours from this post or so.

[Remi]

Oh yeah beta means motion values will be tested, allowing better comparison between damage of Savage Axe Slash and other options. Beta CB is Impact though, it really depends on the elemental modifier per hit on Element phials whether they can keep up with Impact when matching monster's weakness.