where the hell are the iframes in the roll

[Scaryowl]

i know they exist because i've rolled attacks before, i just dont know how i did so.
I'm used to dark souls rolls where they have closer to 30, and i know that this game only has 3 or so iframes per roll.

Still, knowing where they are in the animation would be nice.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Uhhh in the middle?

[Seamus]

It's substantially more than three frames. particularly once you start adding evade+ into it.

https://i.imgur.com/HO8a8sX.jpg

[Scaryowl]

Originally posted by Seamus:

It's substantially more than three frames. particularly once you start adding evade+ into it.

https://i.imgur.com/HO8a8sX.jpg

seen that chart in the past, doesn't help me find iframes in the rolls. When i think i've got the timing down i get hit by something repeatedly. Knowing when exactly roll iframes are would be cool.

[Lars]

Originally posted by Scaryowl:

Originally posted by Seamus:

It's substantially more than three frames. particularly once you start adding evade+ into it.

https://i.imgur.com/HO8a8sX.jpg

seen that chart in the past, doesn't help me find iframes in the rolls. When i think i've got the timing down i get hit by something repeatedly. Knowing when exactly roll iframes are would be cool.

Monsters hit animations are longer then the basic i-frame and it's starts at the end of the roll animation(googled). I suck when it comes do dodge so i tend to just roll away and not bother with trying to i-frame the monsters just get evade extender. Or you could get evade window 5 and try with that

[ben]

Originally posted by Lars:

Originally posted by Scaryowl:

seen that chart in the past, doesn't help me find iframes in the rolls. When i think i've got the timing down i get hit by something repeatedly. Knowing when exactly roll iframes are would be cool.

Monsters hit animations are longer then the basic i-frame and it's starts at the end of the roll animation(googled). I suck when it comes do dodge so i tend to just roll away and not bother with trying to i-frame the monsters just get evade extender. Or you could get evade window 5 and try with that

iframes start at the beginning of your roll

[Nope]

Ah the darksoul player, if you want more i-frame use stock up evade window skill
Otherwise throw the habbit out the windows and start anticipating monster attack and dodge out of the way correctly
Alternative option is learning Superman dive/belly flop which have extreme long i-frame

[(ノ°□°)ノ]

Watching a youtube vid of someone doing it will probably help you more than forum explainations

[Tregrenos]

Between "here" and...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNLob2E_Q5s

[Takingdomscosimog]

i do think its unfair in lots of ways when monsters attacks last longer than max iframes, and even diving isnt enough for some moves.

some weapons cant even sheathe in time to dive evade, and roars put you in longer recovery than the monster whos roaring unless you earplugs up which a lot of classes dont have room for- meaning the game will hit you whenever it wants to cos it can.
monsters can tremor you as well, it can wind pressure you into recovery frames, you literally cannot build a loadout to mitigate everything let alone with enough room to deal optimal damage.

so yes i do think capcom made a big mess with a lot of things in this game, but when rng is on your side it can be fun.
really not for cheating ai though sometimes there is just nothing you can do except upgrade your gear and builld as best you can, will never always be enough though...

[Noeat]

Originally posted by korosu:

i do think its unfair in lots of ways when monsters attacks last longer than max iframes, and even diving isnt enough for some moves.

some weapons cant even sheathe in time to dive evade, and roars put you in longer recovery than the monster whos roaring unless you earplugs up which a lot of classes dont have room for- meaning the game will hit you whenever it wants to cos it can.
monsters can tremor you as well, it can wind pressure you into recovery frames, you literally cannot build a loadout to mitigate everything let alone with enough room to deal optimal damage.

so yes i do think capcom made a big mess with a lot of things in this game, but when rng is on your side it can be fun.
really not for cheating ai though sometimes there is just nothing you can do except upgrade your gear and builld as best you can, will never always be enough though...

do u rly complain about iframes and how is not possible exploit game with iframes?
and how bad is, when u cant exploit by iframes, because attack frame is longer than that?
and then u complain how bad is, when u dont use proper gear with earplugs and because that, roar put you in long recovery?

omg..

this cant be real, u cant be serious

edit: how can u say "its unfair, when i cant exploit game mechanics"?

[Hunting Doska]

Originally posted by korosu:

i do think its unfair in lots of ways when monsters attacks last longer than max iframes, and even diving isnt enough for some moves.

Lol.
Also, superman dive is enough for everything but AT Lunastra BS

[Takingdomscosimog]

Originally posted by Noeat:

Originally posted by korosu:

i do think its unfair in lots of ways when monsters attacks last longer than max iframes, and even diving isnt enough for some moves.

some weapons cant even sheathe in time to dive evade, and roars put you in longer recovery than the monster whos roaring unless you earplugs up which a lot of classes dont have room for- meaning the game will hit you whenever it wants to cos it can.
monsters can tremor you as well, it can wind pressure you into recovery frames, you literally cannot build a loadout to mitigate everything let alone with enough room to deal optimal damage.

so yes i do think capcom made a big mess with a lot of things in this game, but when rng is on your side it can be fun.
really not for cheating ai though sometimes there is just nothing you can do except upgrade your gear and builld as best you can, will never always be enough though...

do u rly complain about iframes and how is not possible exploit game with iframes?
and how bad is, when u cant exploit by iframes, because attack frame is longer than that?
and then u complain how bad is, when u dont use proper gear with earplugs and because that, roar put you in long recovery?

omg..

this cant be real, u cant be serious

edit: how can u say "its unfair, when i cant exploit game mechanics"?

my opinion. i dont need cretinous elitist wannabe replies like that. away with you.

[Noeat]

Originally posted by korosu:

Originally posted by Noeat:

do u rly complain about iframes and how is not possible exploit game with iframes?
and how bad is, when u cant exploit by iframes, because attack frame is longer than that?
and then u complain how bad is, when u dont use proper gear with earplugs and because that, roar put you in long recovery?

omg..

this cant be real, u cant be serious

edit: how can u say "its unfair, when i cant exploit game mechanics"?

my opinion. i dont need cretinous elitist wannabe replies like that. away with you.

i feel so sorry for u..

[Takingdomscosimog]

Originally posted by Noeat:

Originally posted by korosu:

i do think its unfair in lots of ways when monsters attacks last longer than max iframes, and even diving isnt enough for some moves.

some weapons cant even sheathe in time to dive evade, and roars put you in longer recovery than the monster whos roaring unless you earplugs up which a lot of classes dont have room for- meaning the game will hit you whenever it wants to cos it can.
monsters can tremor you as well, it can wind pressure you into recovery frames, you literally cannot build a loadout to mitigate everything let alone with enough room to deal optimal damage.

so yes i do think capcom made a big mess with a lot of things in this game, but when rng is on your side it can be fun.
really not for cheating ai though sometimes there is just nothing you can do except upgrade your gear and builld as best you can, will never always be enough though...

do u rly complain about iframes and how is not possible exploit game with iframes?
and how bad is, when u cant exploit by iframes, because attack frame is longer than that?
and then u complain how bad is, when u dont use proper gear with earplugs and because that, roar put you in long recovery?

omg..

this cant be real, u cant be serious

edit: how can u say "its unfair, when i cant exploit game mechanics"?

fck it, i frames are not exploitations dark souls has extremely forgiving i frames yet is still incredibly difficult at times.

with attack frames longer than your iframes it means you have no way of evading in many instances this is unfair having the monster free hit you with no counter availible is unfair quite blatantly obviously lmao.

i use "proper gear" though tell me how im to fit earplugs tremor resist windproof and viable offence in one build? lmfao.

the game is fun but unfair deal with it.

[Takingdomscosimog]

Originally posted by Noeat:

Originally posted by korosu:

my opinion. i dont need cretinous elitist wannabe replies like that. away with you.

i feel so sorry for u..

lmao no i you becasuse you are either trying way too hard to be seen as an elitist or youre fkn blind, either way you have my sympathy.