Divine Slasher

[Crowley42]

Is this weapon actually good? I see a lot of people using it. I have the Nergi sword right now and it seems to be a direct upgrade.

Same attack damage
Same affinity

+Much better sharpness
+Much better element+ its not hidden element either

-20 defense, but that is useless anyway
-a rank 1 slot instead of rank3

Am I missing something or is Extermination's Edge just much better than Divine all around?

[Seamus]

Divine Slasher works with non-elemental, so the raw is 10% higher.

Longswords aren't great with element.

Nergi sword does NOT have better sharpness. Nergi maxes at blue. Divine Slasher gets to white with 2 or 3 points of artisan. I forget which.

[Crowley42]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Divine Slasher works with non-elemental, so the raw is 10% higher.

Longswords aren't great with element.

Nergi sword does NOT have better sharpness. Nergi maxes at blue. Divine Slasher gets to white with 2 or 3 points of artisan. I forget which.

I didn't know that, how do I know which the max sharpness of a blade is?

[Seamus]

It's missing the kulve weapons and a few other things, but:

https://mhworld.kiranico.com/long-sword

[Knochenkratzer]

Basically there are only 4 LS to want: Jho & Divine until Kulve, Kjarr Decay & Taroth Fire afterwards

[Endarion]

divine slasher is arguabily still the best non elemental LS if you are not confident in peak performance

if you are confident in keeping PP active than taroth sword fire is better

however

divine slasher is likely to get upgraded in iceborne
taroth sword fire will probably just go in the trash

[tag545]

divine slasher and the jho long swords are the hardest hitting non kulve longswords in the game with the correct "meta" builds. jho is best in most cases but for dragon immune monsters you switch to divine slasher.

fire sword and kjarr decay are slightly stronger than the above two but are random drops from kulve and in the fire swords case needs peak performance.

as long as you get the jho long sword you will do fine for the most part. the difference between them are a few percent in damage so its not the end of the world if you just call it done after grabbing the jho ls.

[Ragosta tin Dei]

Divine are the top tier LS in the game, along with KT Fire and Jho. Stick an elementless deco on that thing and go to town. Decent white too, not as good as KT Fire but its got great raw.

[Shift]

Don't have "free element" skill (Don't equip: Dober, Kulve Helm; Death Stench, Rath Soul, Kirin y Torso; Zorah, Kulve hands; Kirin, Kulve waist; Kirin Leg) - and equip one elementless gem, so you'll get a higher raw damage that means higher damage regardless of monster resistance. Good alarounder, but there are weapons that do better when you consider monster's elemental weaknesses.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by tag545:

divine slasher and the jho long swords are the hardest hitting non kulve longswords in the game with the correct "meta" builds. jho is best in most cases but for dragon immune monsters you switch to divine slasher.

fire sword and kjarr decay are slightly stronger than the above two but are random drops from kulve and in the fire swords case needs peak performance.

as long as you get the jho long sword you will do fine for the most part. the difference between them are a few percent in damage so its not the end of the world if you just call it done after grabbing the jho ls.

decay needs PP aswell to surpass jho actually. all kulve ls do.

[Nimble Mind]

Elementless jewel works with DS so that's why it's better.

[Remi]

If you don't have any Kulve meta option or don't like Peak dependency, Jho LS is better than DS on every monster except Odo and BBlos. It also has better sharpness making for more consistent damage.

[Hundezahn]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

decay needs PP aswell to surpass jho actually. all kulve ls do.

Yeah in the speedrunner math lab. In reality Decay & Fire have more affinity and sharpness and allow normal people better builds

[Nerevar]

define a "better" build then. ill wait.

[Hundezahn]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

false. decays sharpness is worse than jho with handicraft charm 3.

so haveing more sharpness is simply false.

also better builds? what "better" builds do you mean? if you want more utility for your build taroth fire and empress styx are both better than decay and fire anyway.

I'm in passing now but real quick: Decay allows comfortable affinity all the time, while Jho relies on maximum might. Ofc you can shugg dash potions all day long, but again I'm talking about normal people play. Double dragon dmg and elemental crit are also present which (totally unfounded claim by me) contribute to the dmg all the time and not only in perfect situations.
And I was talking about Taroth Fire, not Kjarr, should have spelled that out.

Sorry for tainting the word "better" :P ofc not speedrun math lab better. How about "Valid alternatives for people and situations that don't fit the one meta dps build"

[Nerevar]

double dragon dmg? what are you talking about kjarr doesnt have twice the dragon dmg? youre aware that elemental isnt that great on ls in generel due stupid devs putting a penalty for it on helmsplitter for god knows no real good reason while makeing nearly every ls out there an elemental one.

also max might is super easy to sustain on ls. who needs dash juice to sustain max might on a LS please? like what is that argument please? i would rather drop weakness exploit levels instead of MM levels if i had to choose. i mean ls has foresight for a reason and it doesnt cost stamina.

the question is rather what do you replace these skills with imo.