When is critical eye worth it?

[Hirasawa]

Like is it worth it if it increases from 0 to 15 or 20 or 30 or 40 etc....?

[Hirasawa]

what is USJ event waist I havent been to any event yet in this game.

[Seamus]

https://monsterhunterworld.wiki.fextralife.com/Azure+Starlord+Alpha+Armor+Set

Azure Starlord armor set. From a pretty easy high rank event. Unfortunately, the soonest it'll probably be back is the summer event, whenever that happens to roll around.

[~KeNnEtH~]

I think you should watch these first:
https://youtu.be/6l_Bzy2c3xc
https://youtu.be/77ZsO3X-nrE

[chefcook90]

Generally you're gonna want at least Crit Eye 3, since the boosts from 1 and 2 aren't multiples of 5% - this is important, because all other affinity boosts come in multiples of 5% - having only Crit Eye 1 or 2 will result in you either over-shooting or under-shooting the 100% Affinity cap.

[Hirasawa]

Thx

引用自 Seamus：

https://monsterhunterworld.wiki.fextralife.com/Azure+Starlord+Alpha+Armor+Set

Azure Starlord armor set. From a pretty easy high rank event. Unfortunately, the soonest it'll probably be back is the summer event, whenever that happens to roll around.

yea that armor has good greaves.

引用自 ~KeNnEtH~：

I think you should watch these first:
https://youtu.be/6l_Bzy2c3xc
https://youtu.be/77ZsO3X-nrE

I'll watch the video for sure

引用自 chefcook90：

Generally you're gonna want at least Crit Eye 3, since the boosts from 1 and 2 aren't multiples of 5% - this is important, because all other affinity boosts come in multiples of 5% - having only Crit Eye 1 or 2 will result in you either over-shooting or under-shooting the 100% Affinity cap.

The thing is since I already have weakness exploit and the 2 set bonus from rathalos I'm gonna focus on crit boost which I did I just now crafted rathalos soul helm and got a critical boot +1 the +2 and +3 not worth it the increase is very small.

[Seamus]

引用自 Senju：

yea that armor has good greaves.

You're better off using the waist because of Teostra Gamma. The three best pieces of it are helm/chest/legs, which give a fair number of slots and a full +7 crit eye.

[Seamus]

My ice sns set as an example. I know I'm over-capped on crit, I just haven't felt like rebalancing things to be exactly at 100.

https://i.imgur.com/EuQQibg.jpg

[chefcook90]

Critical Element doesn't boost your crit chance - all it does is allow your elemental damage to crit :P

If you're using a weapon with base 0% affinity, going for Criteye 3 will increase your critical chance from 50% to 60%, which is a 20% increase in the number of crits you'll be dealing overall - that's already better to the damage boost from Crit Boost 2.

Also, Crit Boost 1 does NOT increase your crit damage by 30% - it increases the bonus from critical hits from 25% to 30%, which means you're only getting a 4% increase in critical hit damage, or a 2% dps increase overall with a 50% crit rate.

[~KeNnEtH~]

引用自 chefcook90：

Also, Crit Boost 1 does NOT increase your crit damage by 30% - it increases the bonus from critical hits from 25% to 30%, which means you're only getting a 4% increase in critical hit damage, or a 2% dps increase overall with a 50% crit rate.

Actually, if his weapon deals Y true raw damage,

Critical Boost 2 with 50 affinity from Weakness Exploit 3:

0.5 X 0.35 X Y = 0.175 Y (17.5%)

No Critical Boost with 60 affinity from Weakness Exploit 3 + Critical Eye 3:

0.6 X 0.25 X Y = 0.15 Y (15%)


However, if it was just a typo and you meant:

Critical Boost 1 with 50 affinity from Weakness Exploit 3:

0.5 X 0.30 X Y = 0.15 Y (15%)

They will be on par.

引用自 Senju：

The thing is since I already have weakness exploit and the 2 set bonus from rathalos I'm gonna focus on crit boost which I did I just now crafted rathalos soul helm and got a critical boot +1 the +2 and +3 not worth it the increase is very small.

Not matter how big the affinity or critical boost multiplier is, if your true raw damage or Y, is small, you are not gonna get a big number.

Also, since you are using Dual Blades, take the damage value you see and divide by 1.4.

That's your Y.

[chefcook90]

引用自 ~KeNnEtH~：

引用自 chefcook90：

Critical Element doesn't boost your crit chance - all it does is allow your elemental damage to crit :P

If you're using a weapon with base 0% affinity, going for Criteye 3 will increase your critical chance from 50% to 60%, which is a 20% increase in the number of crits you'll be dealing overall - that's already better to the damage boost from Crit Boost 2.

Also, Crit Boost 1 does NOT increase your crit damage by 30% - it increases the bonus from critical hits from 25% to 30%, which means you're only getting a 4% increase in critical hit damage, or a 2% dps increase overall with a 50% crit rate.

Actually, if his weapon deals Y true raw damage,

Critical Boost 2 with 50 affinity from Weakness Exploit 3:

0.5 X 0.35 X Y = 0.175 Y (17.5%)

No Critical Boost with 60 affinity from Weakness Exploit 3 + Critical Eye 3:

0.6 X 0.25 X Y = 0.15 Y (15%)

well, ♥♥♥♥, you're right.

I was doing something along the lines of:
135 / 125 = 1.08
1.08 x 0.5 = 0.54

125 / 125 = 1.0
1.0 x 0.6 = 0.6

[Nerevar]

引用自 Senju：

Thx a lot for all ur answers

I'm working on dual blade build, I apologize I should have said this in my first post.

引用自 Nerevar：

the cap for the skill is displayed in its tooltip if that is what you mean. its 30% for crit eye.

nop I meant cap on the weapon which

引用自 Jethro：

100% affinity

told me it was 100%

I never leave home without my two rathalos armor the mail & the Greaves not only this will give me weakness exploit +3 but will also give me the 2 set bonus so I dont know if I will ever replace these armors. Since i already have weakness exploit and the 2 set bonus from rathalos armor, should I be focusing more on Critical Boost or attack boost?

depends on your weapon. but you WILL replace these items. believe me^^

[Hirasawa]

引用自 ~KeNnEtH~：

引用自 chefcook90：

Critical Element doesn't boost your crit chance - all it does is allow your elemental damage to crit :P

If you're using a weapon with base 0% affinity, going for Criteye 3 will increase your critical chance from 50% to 60%, which is a 20% increase in the number of crits you'll be dealing overall - that's already better to the damage boost from Crit Boost 2.

Also, Crit Boost 1 does NOT increase your crit damage by 30% - it increases the bonus from critical hits from 25% to 30%, which means you're only getting a 4% increase in critical hit damage, or a 2% dps increase overall with a 50% crit rate.

Actually, if his weapon deals Y true raw damage,

Critical Boost 2 with 50 affinity from Weakness Exploit 3:

0.5 X 0.35 X Y = 0.175 Y (17.5%)

No Critical Boost with 60 affinity from Weakness Exploit 3 + Critical Eye 3:

0.6 X 0.25 X Y = 0.15 Y (15%)


However, if it was just a typo and you meant:

Critical Boost 1 with 50 affinity from Weakness Exploit 3:

0.5 X 0.30 X Y = 0.15 Y (15%)

They will be on par.

My build is dual blade and it based on elemental damage

[~KeNnEtH~]

引用自 Senju：

My build is dual blade and it based on elemental damage

Yeah, you can ignore Critical Boost since it does not increase Critical Element multiplier.

I was simply doing the math for that example on Critical Eye vs Critical Boost for raw damage.

Also, do you happen to have any Kjarr Elemental Dual Blades?

Because if you have, you no longer need that 2 piece Rathalos bonus because Kjarr Elemental weapons come with innate Critical Element.

This will open up a lot more freedom for your build.


In any case, now that we know you are building for Dual Blades, the choice becomes pretty clear.

Weakness Exploit + Critical Eye
With Master's Touch to handle sharpness loss

Since raw damage is not gonna help as much for Dual Blades and you consume stamina in Demon Mode, Attack Boost 4, Critical Boost, Agitator, Maximum Might and Peak Performance suddenly don't matter as much now.

[ggAkatsukiP]

引用自 ~KeNnEtH~：

Note that the relationship between each skill is not strictly linear (i.e. it's not always one skill is better than the other).

True. I had always think latent power as the worst skill choice for raising affinity, until I watched a speedrun video with latent power build + affinity booster.

[Hirasawa]

引用自 ~KeNnEtH~：

引用自 Senju：

My build is dual blade and it based on elemental damage

Yeah, you can ignore Critical Boost since it does not increase Critical Element multiplier.

I was simply doing the math for that example on Critical Eye vs Critical Boost for raw damage.

Also, do you happen to have any Kjarr Elemental Dual Blades?

Because if you have, you no longer need that 2 piece Rathalos bonus because Kjarr Elemental weapons come with innate Critical Element.

This will open up a lot more freedom for your build.


In any case, now that we know you are building for Dual Blades, the choice becomes pretty clear.

Weakness Exploit + Critical Eye
With Master's Touch to handle sharpness loss

Since raw damage is not gonna help as much for Dual Blades and you consume stamina in Demon Mode, Attack Boost 4, Critical Boost, Agitator, Maximum Might and Peak Performance suddenly don't matter as much now.

Thx

No I dont have Kjarr blades looks like I'm not there yet

yep will try and get critical eye just crafted Stratergist spectacles glasses.