question about augmented high rank weapons to g-rank

[Gros Toton]

simply, will you upgrade augmented weapons to g-rank and get the parts and hero/warrior stones refunded (fully or partly) or the g-rank trees will be separated from the rest?

[Xilo The Odd]

yeah we honestly have no clue, in past games like MH4 weapon augmenting was a thing, but it was for G rank weapons if i remember right which in this case will be master rank.

so we can only speculate but my guess is augmenting will just be a thing starting at high rank, they may change it so weapons that end in rarity 9 will be 2 slot and rarity 10 will be 1 slot, and rare 8s will become the new 3 slot augments during G rank. meaning the current slot loadouts will remain the same as all those weapons will likely be upgradeable into G rank of the same rarity tier.

to simplify it, the current rarity end tiers are 6, 7, and 8 being the highest, but for some of the craftable stuff they will be getting new G rank upgrades as we saw with the new graphics and the fact they are master rank upgrades. so rare 6 weapons will likely end on tier 8 now, tier 7 will end on tier 9, and current tier 8 will upgrade to the new max tier of tier 10, or tier X pending on how they go about it.

the only weird factor for this theory is kulve taroth weapons, for that, my guess is a 2nd augmentation step for master rank is probably gonna take place to add slots to things like that, or they will HOPEFULLY cut the BS and just let us do a master rank upgrade on them by fighting a master rank version of her and using materials to do so. we can only hope thats the case though.

[Nerevar]

Postat inițial de Xilo The Odd:

yeah we honestly have no clue, in past games like MH4 weapon augmenting was a thing, but it was for G rank weapons if i remember right which in this case will be master rank.

so we can only speculate but my guess is augmenting will just be a thing starting at high rank, they may change it so weapons that end in rarity 9 will be 2 slot and rarity 10 will be 1 slot, and rare 8s will become the new 3 slot augments during G rank. meaning the current slot loadouts will remain the same as all those weapons will likely be upgradeable into G rank of the same rarity tier.

to simplify it, the current rarity end tiers are 6, 7, and 8 being the highest, but for some of the craftable stuff they will be getting new G rank upgrades as we saw with the new graphics and the fact they are master rank upgrades. so rare 6 weapons will likely end on tier 8 now, tier 7 will end on tier 9, and current tier 8 will upgrade to the new max tier of tier 10, or tier X pending on how they go about it.

the only weird factor for this theory is kulve taroth weapons, for that, my guess is a 2nd augmentation step for master rank is probably gonna take place to add slots to things like that, or they will HOPEFULLY cut the BS and just let us do a master rank upgrade on them by fighting a master rank version of her and using materials to do so. we can only hope thats the case though.

no no and no on kulve cancer ♥♥♥♥. just let these weapons DIE with iceborne and go back to a proper crafted weapons meta. i hope her weapons just get phased out entirely by iceborne. heck make it so you can trade em in for points or materials whatever but no upgrade. sick of BASIC IRON KATANA WITH GOLD BEEING the endgame weapon design. that is lazy wrong and boring as ♥♥♥♥.

as for augments refarm of new higher tier cancerstones is most likely. hopefully with more than 6 monsters to choose from to farm em tough and with a method to exchange unneeded ones for needed ones ffs.

hopefully the e3 hands on demo will show the new upgrade tree amoung other things. otherwise we wont get that important info bit till release on console. as gamescon is too close to console release. doesnt matter anymore what they show there as its literally less than 14 days from launch at that point.

[Xilo The Odd]

Postat inițial de Nerevar:

Postat inițial de Xilo The Odd:

yeah we honestly have no clue, in past games like MH4 weapon augmenting was a thing, but it was for G rank weapons if i remember right which in this case will be master rank.

so we can only speculate but my guess is augmenting will just be a thing starting at high rank, they may change it so weapons that end in rarity 9 will be 2 slot and rarity 10 will be 1 slot, and rare 8s will become the new 3 slot augments during G rank. meaning the current slot loadouts will remain the same as all those weapons will likely be upgradeable into G rank of the same rarity tier.

to simplify it, the current rarity end tiers are 6, 7, and 8 being the highest, but for some of the craftable stuff they will be getting new G rank upgrades as we saw with the new graphics and the fact they are master rank upgrades. so rare 6 weapons will likely end on tier 8 now, tier 7 will end on tier 9, and current tier 8 will upgrade to the new max tier of tier 10, or tier X pending on how they go about it.

the only weird factor for this theory is kulve taroth weapons, for that, my guess is a 2nd augmentation step for master rank is probably gonna take place to add slots to things like that, or they will HOPEFULLY cut the BS and just let us do a master rank upgrade on them by fighting a master rank version of her and using materials to do so. we can only hope thats the case though.

no no and no on kulve cancer ♥♥♥♥. just let these weapons DIE with iceborne and go back to a proper crafted weapons meta. i hope her weapons just get phased out entirely by iceborne. heck make it so you can trade em in for points or materials whatever but no upgrade. sick of BASIC IRON KATANA WITH GOLD BEEING the endgame weapon design. that is lazy wrong and boring as ♥♥♥♥.

as for augments refarm of new higher tier cancerstones is most likely. hopefully with more than 6 monsters to choose from to farm em tough and with a method to exchange unneeded ones for needed ones ffs.

hopefully the e3 hands on demo will show the new upgrade tree amoung other things. otherwise we wont get that important info bit till release on console. as gamescon is too close to console release. doesnt matter anymore what they show there as its literally less than 14 days from launch at that point.

nah i agree, i am also sick of the kulve weapons being the end tier meta.

i miss the days of giant stone fist hammer and frozen tuna...

my guess is kulve wont be the only siege monster anymore done in that style. meaning similar siege drops will be a thing. the real question is, are they gonna completely change kulve so its possible to just craft her stuff along with any other future siege monster, or if they are gonna be random drops on the others as well.

because if they brought in Lao shan or something as a siege fight or dalamadur, i doubt they'd just have em drop weapons since they were always craftable in the past.

[Smug Kot]

Postat inițial de Nerevar:

high chance your augment will just be lost. the new rarity 10 stuff will require a new type of rngstone and thus youll have to farm it all over again.

its extremely unlikely youll get to keep your augment if your current weapon gets an upgrade into master rank.

only thing you will keep for sure is decos. as i dont see that system changeing all that much (3 slots max per gear 3 slot levels 3 gem levels etc) theyll probaly just add some new decos and hopefully a better system to earn them aswell.

yup master rank weapon will need master rank materials its kinda obvious, if we are going to keep the same augments ? who knows maybe be get even new ones...........but kinda hard to beat life leech.

Postat inițial de Xilo The Odd:

Postat inițial de Nerevar:

no no and no on kulve cancer ♥♥♥♥. just let these weapons DIE with iceborne and go back to a proper crafted weapons meta. i hope her weapons just get phased out entirely by iceborne. heck make it so you can trade em in for points or materials whatever but no upgrade. sick of BASIC IRON KATANA WITH GOLD BEEING the endgame weapon design. that is lazy wrong and boring as ♥♥♥♥.

as for augments refarm of new higher tier cancerstones is most likely. hopefully with more than 6 monsters to choose from to farm em tough and with a method to exchange unneeded ones for needed ones ffs.

hopefully the e3 hands on demo will show the new upgrade tree amoung other things. otherwise we wont get that important info bit till release on console. as gamescon is too close to console release. doesnt matter anymore what they show there as its literally less than 14 days from launch at that point.

nah i agree, i am also sick of the kulve weapons being the end tier meta.

i miss the days of giant stone fist hammer and frozen tuna...

my guess is kulve wont be the only siege monster anymore done in that style. meaning similar siege drops will be a thing. the real question is, are they gonna completely change kulve so its possible to just craft her stuff along with any other future siege monster, or if they are gonna be random drops on the others as well.

because if they brought in Lao shan or something as a siege fight or dalamadur, i doubt they'd just have em drop weapons since they were always craftable in the past.

Kinda sad new players will never know the joy of farming kulve 24/7.....yeah probably everyone will just straigh skip kulve after iceborne its released.

[Nerevar]

Postat inițial de Undertale: "CENSORED" edition:

Postat inițial de Nerevar:

high chance your augment will just be lost. the new rarity 10 stuff will require a new type of rngstone and thus youll have to farm it all over again.

its extremely unlikely youll get to keep your augment if your current weapon gets an upgrade into master rank.

only thing you will keep for sure is decos. as i dont see that system changeing all that much (3 slots max per gear 3 slot levels 3 gem levels etc) theyll probaly just add some new decos and hopefully a better system to earn them aswell.

yup master rank weapon will need master rank materials its kinda obvious, if we are going to keep the same augments ? who knows maybe be get even new ones...........but kinda hard to beat life leech.

Postat inițial de Xilo The Odd:

nah i agree, i am also sick of the kulve weapons being the end tier meta.

i miss the days of giant stone fist hammer and frozen tuna...

my guess is kulve wont be the only siege monster anymore done in that style. meaning similar siege drops will be a thing. the real question is, are they gonna completely change kulve so its possible to just craft her stuff along with any other future siege monster, or if they are gonna be random drops on the others as well.

because if they brought in Lao shan or something as a siege fight or dalamadur, i doubt they'd just have em drop weapons since they were always craftable in the past.

Kinda sad new players will never know the joy of farming kulve 24/7.....yeah probably everyone will just straigh skip kulve after iceborne its released.

i hope that JOY was sarcasm XD the idea and the fight itself where alot of fun. the first 30 times. then it got extremely DULL really quickly for me. but when you hit 300 times and still miss weapons you want that simply goes too far. at that point you get bored to death by it.

[Xilo The Odd]

yeah pretty much.

she is a good way to grind for cash though with all those extra garbage weps selling for so much. and her materials you only need for 15 things at the most.

i mean she is basically just a walking money bag after a point with a possible bonus for a good weapon from another perspective.

[Gros Toton]

Postat inițial de Nerevar:

Postat inițial de Undertale: "CENSORED" edition:

yup master rank weapon will need master rank materials its kinda obvious, if we are going to keep the same augments ? who knows maybe be get even new ones...........but kinda hard to beat life leech.



Kinda sad new players will never know the joy of farming kulve 24/7.....yeah probably everyone will just straigh skip kulve after iceborne its released.

i hope that JOY was sarcasm XD the idea and the fight itself where alot of fun. the first 30 times. then it got extremely DULL really quickly for me. but when you hit 300 times and still miss weapons you want that simply goes too far. at that point you get bored to death by it.

what d'you mean
i love joining a kulve siege with a guaranteed no-victory because the siege level is not high enough for the run, it's the best thi-LET'S WRAP IT UP-

[Dark]

hopefully at least the "gems" pop out after upgrading to masterbranch or getting them out with the alchemic brewing pot using money

[Deneviel]

That moment when you realize they will prob release G-Rank kulve and G-Rank AT Kulve for the love of the grinders.

EDIT:

Honestly i'm quite confident weap will follow the upgrade path we have now. So,imo , you will be able to:

A: Create a G-Rank weap out of the box
B: Upgrade an H-Rank to a G-Rank weap with fewer mats
C: Scrap the weapon for mats

Prob power up with stones will be passed down to the new weapons with the uppgrade.

As for Armor and Kulve they will prob be total useless when Master Rank comes

[Smug Kot]

Postat inițial de Deneviel:

That moment when you realize they will prob release G-Rank kulve and G-Rank AT Kulve for the love of the grinders.

EDIT:

Honestly i'm quite confident weap will follow the upgrade path we have now. So,imo , you will be able to:

A: Create a G-Rank weap out of the box
B: Upgrade an H-Rank to a G-Rank weap with fewer mats
C: Scrap the weapon for mats

Prob power up with stones will be passed down to the new weapons with the uppgrade.

As for Armor and Kulve they will prob be total useless when Master Rank comes

No plz no, i dont want more kulve lotto holding the best weapons in the game.

[Nerevar]

Postat inițial de Deneviel:

That moment when you realize they will prob release G-Rank kulve and G-Rank AT Kulve for the love of the grinders.

EDIT:

Honestly i'm quite confident weap will follow the upgrade path we have now. So,imo , you will be able to:

A: Create a G-Rank weap out of the box
B: Upgrade an H-Rank to a G-Rank weap with fewer mats
C: Scrap the weapon for mats

Prob power up with stones will be passed down to the new weapons with the uppgrade.

As for Armor and Kulve they will prob be total useless when Master Rank comes

power up ? do you mean augmenting? that will not be passed down for certain. would safe you refarming the new rngstones. which wont happen. theyll force you to refarm that for certain.

would be way too easy otherwise.

[Deneviel]

Postat inițial de Nerevar:

Postat inițial de Deneviel:

That moment when you realize they will prob release G-Rank kulve and G-Rank AT Kulve for the love of the grinders.

EDIT:

Honestly i'm quite confident weap will follow the upgrade path we have now. So,imo , you will be able to:

A: Create a G-Rank weap out of the box
B: Upgrade an H-Rank to a G-Rank weap with fewer mats
C: Scrap the weapon for mats

Prob power up with stones will be passed down to the new weapons with the uppgrade.

As for Armor and Kulve they will prob be total useless when Master Rank comes

power up ? do you mean augmenting? that will not be passed down for certain. would safe you refarming the new rngstones. which wont happen. theyll force you to refarm that for certain.

would be way too easy otherwise.

Dunno just my guess. Imo G-Rank weap will have extra slots or some other stuff that will require the hypergrind

Postat inițial de Undertale: "CENSORED" edition:

Postat inițial de Deneviel:

That moment when you realize they will prob release G-Rank kulve and G-Rank AT Kulve for the love of the grinders.

EDIT:

Honestly i'm quite confident weap will follow the upgrade path we have now. So,imo , you will be able to:

A: Create a G-Rank weap out of the box
B: Upgrade an H-Rank to a G-Rank weap with fewer mats
C: Scrap the weapon for mats

Prob power up with stones will be passed down to the new weapons with the uppgrade.

As for Armor and Kulve they will prob be total useless when Master Rank comes

No plz no, i dont want more kulve lotto holding the best weapons in the game.

G-rank kulve it's almost a given fact. Pretty impossible we won't see her in G-Rank.

[Nerevar]

yeah. no kulve in master rank. sorry. sick of that rng bs loot system. that monster was killed so much unless they fully redesign it should just die. add something new instead. if they copy paste the same boring rng grind with the same fight just with higher numbers again i am definitly outa this game for good. as that would just be the must uncreative ♥♥♥♥ i have seen in awhile.

its one thing to add another siege fight like it in master rank. but not copy and paste. when you did the same monster 200 times you ARE SICK OF IT and dont want to see it ever again.

[Smug Kot]

theres huge chances heal steal get nerfed hard or completely removed becouse those G-weaposn are going to hit hard and we can already get a lot of sustain with the current weapons.

[Nerevar]

Postat inițial de Undertale: "CENSORED" edition:

theres huge chances heal steal get nerfed hard or completely removed becouse those G-weaposn are going to hit hard and we can already get a lot of sustain with the current weapons.

removed is unlikely. options are already super limited. takeing health steal out would literally force you on affinity/attack depending on weapon. may aswell not have augments then anymore as these are boring af.

hopefully the e3 demo answers this this week.