Why does the handler get so much attention?

[Dex]

I'm just curious why the handler gets so much attention in regards to DLC and events. She's one of the worst parts of the game for me and yet there is a ton of DLC just for her outfits. Is she much more popular than I think?

[general_windu512]

Escrito originalmente por HuskyDelta:

don't hate too much on her. she's just for the sake of story wise mate.
most writing for movies or games will include characters with different traits to make it 'not bland', either in a good or bad way. handler seems to tend to the latter, either because of her face texture or her personality.
but let's be honest, if we're just on our own slaughtering all monsters like an almighty protagonist, it wouldn't be as interesting. but she's also far from perfect that's for damn sure.

The old games didn't have much story and it wasn't forced on you , yet they were still more fun to play.

[HuskyDelta]

Escrito originalmente por general_windu512:

Escrito originalmente por HuskyDelta:

don't hate too much on her. she's just for the sake of story wise mate.
most writing for movies or games will include characters with different traits to make it 'not bland', either in a good or bad way. handler seems to tend to the latter, either because of her face texture or her personality.
but let's be honest, if we're just on our own slaughtering all monsters like an almighty protagonist, it wouldn't be as interesting. but she's also far from perfect that's for damn sure.

The old games didn't have much story and it wasn't forced on you , yet they were still more fun to play.

you're right, can't argue with that.
but i guess they've put MH on the new level of marketing, which also impact gameplay not just story. they even decided not to call it 'Monster Hunter 5' but instead go with the current one. they even said they don't want MHW to depend much on older ones.

why? well, because it attracts more customers. all the old fans will like it old ways, difficult and stuff, including me. they made it more 'casual' to play, say, chillshroom in front of volcano cave and scoutfly. i believe same goes for the story as well for this reason. they need this cliche drama to fill some space, which is not well executed but pretty understandable.

say, go easy on her, eh?

[Malfeasance]

Escrito originalmente por general_windu512:

yet they were still more fun to play.

Subjective and largely depends on how old you mean, 'cause I've played quite a bit of 3U and it's pretty awful. The lack of hand holding is great, quite a few aspects of the combat and some of the monsters are not.

Still planning on getting GU at some point though.

[general_windu512]

Escrito originalmente por Malfeasance:

Escrito originalmente por general_windu512:

yet they were still more fun to play.

Subjective and largely depends on how old you mean, 'cause I've played quite a bit of 3U and it's pretty awful. The lack of hand holding is great, quite a few aspects of the combat and some of the monsters are not.

Still planning on getting GU at some point though.

I'm playing GU right now and i can only recommend it :) It combines old and new locations and basically plays like the first few monster hunters but also adds a few new mechanics like hunter skills. Also : So many nostalgic monsters all in one game :D

Also I guess more fun to play is not really a valid argument , not even for me since I did enjoy world for the most part. I just wish there was an option to completely skip / disable the story.

[Deyvson]

Just started the game, but I have no problem with this character. She is a forgettable NPC, but so are all the others. From my understanding she is the one doing everything in your camp, while you just hunt. She is more our maid than our handler, she even cooks. When we faint she is also the one that bring us back to health. In the cart quest she is one of the people pushing the cart, so she is not afraid of physical labor.

From my understanding the whole problem is that in previous games, which I didn’t play, the women doing her job were always very beautiful, being some kind of masturbatory sweetheart to many. While she has no attractiveness, she is also not ugly. Although there is some room to speculate that she was done that way, devoid of feminine sexiness, just because the game was made to be sold also in the West and they thought that we all follow the same feminist moralism about sexuality being “objectification” and people are fed up of trying to consume something artistic to be given a piece of political propaganda.

Said that, judging the character alone, by herself, I can see no flaw in her. She works a lot, so I see no problem in she saying that “we did it”, when she is there on the camp keeping it organized. She is also not a ♥♥♥♥♥, I like that she is optimistic instead of the kind of woman that is always complaining and putting flaws in everything. She is not annoying also, I never heard she saying something that wasn’t the absolute factual truth. Even if you fail many times she never criticizes you, not even our mom is like that.

[Formous]

Escrito originalmente por Deyvson:

Just started the game, but I have no problem with this character. She is a forgettable NPC, but so are all the others. From my understanding she is the one doing everything in your camp, while you just hunt. She is more our maid than our handler, she even cooks. When we faint she is also the one that bring us back to health. In the cart quest she is one of the people pushing the cart, so she is not afraid of physical labor.

From my understanding the whole problem is that in previous games, which I didn’t play, the women doing her job were always very beautiful, being some kind of masturbatory sweetheart to many. While she has no attractiveness, she is also not ugly. Although there is some room to speculate that she was done that way, devoid of feminine sexiness, just because the game was made to be sold also in the West and they thought that we all follow the same feminist moralism about sexuality being “objectification” and people are fed up of trying to consume something artistic to be given a piece of political propaganda.

Said that, judging the character alone, by herself, I can see no flaw in her. She works a lot, so I see no problem in she saying that “we did it”, when she is there on the camp keeping it organized. She is also not a ♥♥♥♥♥, I like that she is optimistic instead of the kind of woman that is always complaining and putting flaws in everything. She is not annoying also, I never heard she saying something that wasn’t the absolute factual truth. Even if you fail many times she never criticizes you, not even our mom is like that.

Lot of us are criticizing her because of how she acts throughout the whole game, that of being a complete Airhead and lacking any demonstration of common sense. She exists to be saved frequently, and is a idiot in most cases and unable to read a situation. For example, Odogaron's intro. Not a single player or the PC believed for a moment the old woman was not a inhabitant of the Veil and used to navigating it's dangers. however the Handler seems to have some hero complex and rushes into danger poorly equiped to save anyone, let alone herself. More so, she doesn't carry any equipment of any kind to aid her escape, such as a farcaster. Then as the game progresses, she constantly makes it sound as if she was a actual team mate and not the water girl of the team. She seeks something she does not deserve, and credit which is not hers to have. All of this is because she was poorly written at best.

What shocks me is MHW was meant to have a story slant, yet it doesn't make one at all in a effective manner. It's a little disheartening. I am used to far better writing by my japanese counterparts.

[NiamhNyx]

Escrito originalmente por general_windu512:

Escrito originalmente por Malfeasance:

Subjective and largely depends on how old you mean, 'cause I've played quite a bit of 3U and it's pretty awful. The lack of hand holding is great, quite a few aspects of the combat and some of the monsters are not.

Still planning on getting GU at some point though.

I'm playing GU right now and i can only recommend it :) It combines old and new locations and basically plays like the first few monster hunters but also adds a few new mechanics like hunter skills. Also : So many nostalgic monsters all in one game :D

Also I guess more fun to play is not really a valid argument , not even for me since I did enjoy world for the most part. I just wish there was an option to completely skip / disable the story.

Also with GU, you can have the best guild lass in the world be your house keeper, Aisha. Just hide your snacks.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Escrito originalmente por Deyvson:

Just started the game, but I have no problem with this character.

With all due respect, you should finish the story first. Doing so will likely change your mind.

[NiamhNyx]

Escrito originalmente por CourtesyFlush90:

Escrito originalmente por Deyvson:

Just started the game, but I have no problem with this character.

With all due respect, you should finish the story first. Doing so will likely change your mind.

You don't even have to finish the story, she will destroy and sense of "shes ok" they have with in low rank.

[Greb]

UNFORGIVABLE

https://youtu.be/ZGnusVvJ4_8?t=40
(40 second mark)

At least she only says it once..all hail Monster Hunter language!

Playing through the Witcher assignment with English language on just so Geralt could woo me with his gruffness was the hardest quest I've done, simply because of her dialogue in it.

[OvO (Oval)]

it is so nice to have a handler gal to walk with and guide me the route rather wandering in strange forest

[MasNak30]

I love that the Handler gets paired with Pukei Pukei. Really sums up about her.

[Paulie]

can I just get a unique palico as a handler? Handler is annoying and not even hot.

[Malfeasance]

Escrito originalmente por Paulie:

can I just get a unique palico as a handler? Handler is annoying and not even hot.

This[www.nexusmods.com] helps moderately, minimum makeup option. Pair with summer outfit for maximum appeal.

[Hunting Doska]

Escrito originalmente por Deyvson:

Just started the game, but I have no problem with this character. She is a forgettable NPC, but so are all the others. From my understanding she is the one doing everything in your camp, while you just hunt. She is more our maid than our handler, she even cooks. When we faint she is also the one that bring us back to health. In the cart quest she is one of the people pushing the cart, so she is not afraid of physical labor.

From my understanding the whole problem is that in previous games, which I didn’t play, the women doing her job were always very beautiful, being some kind of masturbatory sweetheart to many. While she has no attractiveness, she is also not ugly. Although there is some room to speculate that she was done that way, devoid of feminine sexiness, just because the game was made to be sold also in the West and they thought that we all follow the same feminist moralism about sexuality being “objectification” and people are fed up of trying to consume something artistic to be given a piece of political propaganda.

Said that, judging the character alone, by herself, I can see no flaw in her. She works a lot, so I see no problem in she saying that “we did it”, when she is there on the camp keeping it organized. She is also not a ♥♥♥♥♥, I like that she is optimistic instead of the kind of woman that is always complaining and putting flaws in everything. She is not annoying also, I never heard she saying something that wasn’t the absolute factual truth. Even if you fail many times she never criticizes you, not even our mom is like that.

the problem with handler is that she tryes to commit dead, hugs your cat, you need to save her, than she says "WoaH, DoNt gEt hIt, dRink Pation" like we are an idiots (200 hours in, still get her tutorials sometimes), up until the end of the story, after every mission screams "HEY PARTNER, WHAT ABOUT THE TRACKS TO PROGRESS IN THE STORY?????", gives no heck about you during the whole story but the final fight and witcher quests, where she suddenly cares about you and shows a respect.
I hated her in the story cause i needed to rush it so she would shut up, but after that, she became a somewhat ok character. Don't know about "we can do it" stuff, i don't care

In prev games handlers did nothing but give you quests and saying some useful or funny stuff (world's handler says non of it). And, more importantly, they were not voiced and didn't scream in your ears one line 50+ times and tutorials for braindead