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Hammerjack Sep 5, 2019 @ 4:56pm
Tips for normal Behemoth solo?
I always get to stage 4 and around the time it summons its last comet and I have about 5-6% health left to burn through I just get timed out. I just seem to never be able to get a hit in on stage 4 I lose huge amounts of time/dps.
I use greatsword wyvern impact with health regen and affinity augments, palico has level 10 coral orchestra and deviljho hammer usually use baan hammer but most of the time I cant get a single sleep off, if i do its fast and at stage 1 So i switched palico to deviljho hammer for sliver of dps rocksteady and temporal mantle.
I bring 10 flash bugs but I always burn through them fast. Its kinda frustrating how he can cast charbydis so much you have to let half go through or you wont have enough pods for when he is getting closer to ecliptic. My item box is completely stocked up i use mega armor and demon drugs, I dont use use adamant seeds and attack seeds, is it worth the item space to bring them? Does it hurt your dps having to stop and eat them instead of constant agression or does it slightly help?
My build is lunastra head, damascus chest, lunastra coil and the rest drachen.
Skills are Lunastra stam bonus,
crit eye 4
Atk boost 4
weakness ex 3,
crit boost 3,
handicraft 3
tool specialist 3
evade extender 2
vitality 2
focus 2
fortitude
non element boost.
Tool specialist is there to get temporal and rocksteady back faster.
I usually eat for element res large so I am immune to fire and thunder blight, I always bring
felyne insurance.
I am starting to beileve that I am doing all I can to make this quest more soloable but I may just not have the skill required to solo him. Any advice you think would help would be great, (even if that advice is just he is over my head)
Last edited by Hammerjack; Sep 5, 2019 @ 5:07pm
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Bruh, you want to solo it, you want all the offensive you can get, highest DPS possible, that means no tool specialist, no evade extender (why would you need this anyway ?), at least make a build that has 100% affinity with master touch.

Eat for attack L. ATTAck seed + powder is super nice, why would you not use them ???

Tornado is the least of your worries, no need for flashes, just fight somewhere else if you see you have no ground for movement and dps him when he casts it, and learning how to jump is needed (not mandatory but would really help your chances)

I can give you my setup for soloing him with GS if you really want, but that just kills the fun of making build for you, up to you.
Last edited by [VN] Michael Doan; Sep 5, 2019 @ 6:43pm
SIXSIDES Sep 5, 2019 @ 6:50pm 
I would use powder before each phase and a seed if there is down time. Think of it like sharpening but it's on an invisible timer. I also think using the dragon pods(5 hits I think) for agro and putting on temporal is good to get a lot of damage in without having to think about tornados.
Xilo The Odd Sep 5, 2019 @ 6:52pm 
yeah as said i'd drop the tool specialist if possible. im guessing thats the built in on luna armor though so you may need to swap out some armor.

evade extender is alright, but you might find more benefit from running more evade window or using evade mantle over rocksteady. more damage from evade mantle is never a bad thing.

i suggest watching some of the solo behemoth run vids online and get a good idea of where you want to focus based on your weapon of choice.
Lack of Stuff Sep 5, 2019 @ 7:42pm 
Barrel bomb yourself at the beginning twice to stack on the fortitude, then eat.
Hammerjack Sep 5, 2019 @ 7:46pm 
Originally posted by VN Michael Doan:
Bruh, you want to solo it, you want all the offensive you can get, highest DPS possible, that means no tool specialist, no evade extender (why would you need this anyway ?), at least make a build that has 100% affinity with master touch.

Eat for attack L. ATTAck seed + powder is super nice, why would you not use them ???

Tornado is the least of your worries, no need for flashes, just fight somewhere else if you see you have no ground for movement and dps him when he casts it, and learning how to jump is needed (not mandatory but would really help your chances)

I can give you my setup for soloing him with GS if you really want, but that just kills the fun of making build for you, up to you.
Considering that you usually get the most dps when the mantles are up especially rocksteady I didnt think tool specialist would be a bad choice 20% cool down might give me another 2 mantle uses evade extender is not useless completely it helps position you into a tcs plus was just a bonus on the lunastra armor plus it gives some extra stamina when you have 2 lunastra pieces.
I guess I could go back to min/maxxed dps set but I honestly wonder if another 15% affinity is worth the trade off for more mantle uses.
I honestly dont see how you came to the conclusion that charbydis isnt a problem when you say to attack through it,which i do but now there is a tornado that blocks you from hitting weakpoints and behemoths ai is unreliable when baiting him to move anywhere let alone out of charybiss zones sometimes he will just spam meteor more charybdiss and thunderbolts and wont move.
I appreciate the advice btw
Last edited by Hammerjack; Sep 5, 2019 @ 7:46pm
Hammerjack Sep 5, 2019 @ 7:52pm 
Originally posted by SIXSIDES:
I would use powder before each phase and a seed if there is down time. Think of it like sharpening but it's on an invisible timer. I also think using the dragon pods(5 hits I think) for agro and putting on temporal is good to get a lot of damage in without having to think about tornados.
Thank you for advice will try putting on all seeds powders and what not in the down time. I am always thinking about the tornadoes even with mantles on I dont want one to block off my comet because I still havent gotten EM jump timing down. the dragon pods could be the key I am missing just watched a video where speed runners get enmity fast and stop charbydiss spam with them, will try again tonight a few times.
Hammerjack Sep 5, 2019 @ 7:54pm 
Originally posted by Lack of Stuff:
Barrel bomb yourself at the beginning twice to stack on the fortitude, then eat.
Yeah just watched a video with a speed runner doing that, seems like a pretty good idea although I probably wont proc it twice like he did on purpose because I do feint naturally atleast 1 or 2 times. Thank you for advice
Hammerjack Sep 5, 2019 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by Xilo The Odd:
yeah as said i'd drop the tool specialist if possible. im guessing thats the built in on luna armor though so you may need to swap out some armor.

evade extender is alright, but you might find more benefit from running more evade window or using evade mantle over rocksteady. more damage from evade mantle is never a bad thing.

i suggest watching some of the solo behemoth run vids online and get a good idea of where you want to focus based on your weapon of choice.
Thx for the reply I will try evasion mantle and yes evade extender comes with the lunastra pieces. I could go back to my main set i have tried with a few times
crit eye 7
atk boost 4
WE 3
Crit boost 3
handicraft 3
focus 2
vitality 2
fortify
power prolonger 1
non ele boost

Originally posted by Ser Gregor:
Originally posted by VN Michael Doan:
Bruh, you want to solo it, you want all the offensive you can get, highest DPS possible, that means no tool specialist, no evade extender (why would you need this anyway ?), at least make a build that has 100% affinity with master touch.

Eat for attack L. ATTAck seed + powder is super nice, why would you not use them ???

Tornado is the least of your worries, no need for flashes, just fight somewhere else if you see you have no ground for movement and dps him when he casts it, and learning how to jump is needed (not mandatory but would really help your chances)

I can give you my setup for soloing him with GS if you really want, but that just kills the fun of making build for you, up to you.
Considering that you usually get the most dps when the mantles are up especially rocksteady I didnt think tool specialist would be a bad choice 20% cool down might give me another 2 mantle uses evade extender is not useless completely it helps position you into a tcs plus was just a bonus on the lunastra armor plus it gives some extra stamina when you have 2 lunastra pieces.
I guess I could go back to min/maxxed dps set but I honestly wonder if another 15% affinity is worth the trade off for more mantle uses.
I honestly dont see how you came to the conclusion that charbydis isnt a problem when you say to attack through it,which i do but now there is a tornado that blocks you from hitting weakpoints and behemoths ai is unreliable when baiting him to move anywhere let alone out of charybiss zones sometimes he will just spam meteor more charybdiss and thunderbolts and wont move.
I appreciate the advice btw

Well, you can get those 2 more uses of mantles by switching out mantles set.

You are soloing it, it's always onto you, why would you want to waste deco slots on that ? and did you just say you need that to position for TCS, I lol abit, its highly unlikely you will get that off, skill or no. You can go for evade window and I frame through everything (from the Lunastra Y waist armor, it even gets you hp boost 2 to boot)

If you are not on white sharpness, you wouln't have the best dps you can, hence the 100% affinity and master touch,.

Bruh, you are soloing him, just move away from the tornado zone, I didnt say you attack in the tornado, thats just dumb, you attack when behe CASTS IT, thats free dps right there. Its just an area denial, you can move away from it easily, you are soloing him, he would follow you. And if you got hit by lightning, and meteor out of combat, you are not ready to solo him.

Its just my take on soloing him.
Hammerjack Sep 5, 2019 @ 9:49pm 
Originally posted by VN Michael Doan:
Originally posted by Ser Gregor:
Considering that you usually get the most dps when the mantles are up especially rocksteady I didnt think tool specialist would be a bad choice 20% cool down might give me another 2 mantle uses evade extender is not useless completely it helps position you into a tcs plus was just a bonus on the lunastra armor plus it gives some extra stamina when you have 2 lunastra pieces.
I guess I could go back to min/maxxed dps set but I honestly wonder if another 15% affinity is worth the trade off for more mantle uses.
I honestly dont see how you came to the conclusion that charbydis isnt a problem when you say to attack through it,which i do but now there is a tornado that blocks you from hitting weakpoints and behemoths ai is unreliable when baiting him to move anywhere let alone out of charybiss zones sometimes he will just spam meteor more charybdiss and thunderbolts and wont move.
I appreciate the advice btw

Well, you can get those 2 more uses of mantles by switching out mantles set.

You are soloing it, it's always onto you, why would you want to waste deco slots on that ? and did you just say you need that to position for TCS, I lol abit, its highly unlikely you will get that off, skill or no. You can go for evade window and I frame through everything (from the Lunastra Y waist armor, it even gets you hp boost 2 to boot)

If you are not on white sharpness, you wouln't have the best dps you can, hence the 100% affinity and master touch,.

Bruh, you are soloing him, just move away from the tornado zone, I didnt say you attack in the tornado, thats just dumb, you attack when behe CASTS IT, thats free dps right there. Its just an area denial, you can move away from it easily, you are soloing him, he would follow you. And if you got hit by lightning, and meteor out of combat, you are not ready to solo him.

Its just my take on soloing him.

When you attack him during a charbydiss cast you put charybdiss over him unless he flinches, if he doesnt want to move after that, its kind of frustrating to get a hit in that was my point.
I never said I needed evade extender to get into position just said that its not completely useless because you can use it for positioning/dodging. I am not getting hit by thunderbolts and i usually only get hit by a meteor if I mess up my shoulder tackle timing I just said that he can spam them and not move when inside a charybdiss. I wont disagree that I am may not ready to solo him but considering that I am getting pretty close to killing him I literally just got him a couple hits past the 2nd comet on 4th stage (furthest i have made it yet) I flashed him and tried to go for a sharpen and I had maybe 45 seconds left to a minute, I got killed during my sharpen which is totally on me, Could have tried to dodge but thought he wouldn't attack the same direction since I flashed him I gambled and fainted and ran out of time sprinting back ngl i was fuming at myself but oh well I will try again tomorrow.
I am starting to get him to phase 4 a little earlier. I think I can do this i just need to get some whetfish+ to save sharpening time.(I have neglected fishing aspects of this game)
Glad you got a chuckle at my build its not meta but I have tried more meta builds and was experimenting had the most success with that one.
If you could choose on your max dps build between masters touch and sharpness 3 which one would you pick? Sometimes I will miss a weak point and hit chest or horns and deflect lose ALOT of sharpness anyways so seems like masters touch isn't as good as sharpness 3 for me at least.
[VN] Michael Doan Sep 5, 2019 @ 10:00pm 
Originally posted by Ser Gregor:

I always go for master touch.

Just keep going until you can do it. The 2nd comet in last fase means he gets about 3 - 5k left I think.

And dont fish for the TCS, go for the charge round slash.
Last edited by [VN] Michael Doan; Sep 5, 2019 @ 10:03pm
Hammerjack Sep 5, 2019 @ 10:19pm 
Originally posted by VN Michael Doan:
Originally posted by Ser Gregor:

I always go for master touch.

Just keep going until you can do it. The 2nd comet in last fase means he gets about 3 - 5k left I think.

And dont fish for the TCS, go for the charge round slash.
Thx for feedback I cant remember the last time a game gave me such a exhilarating challenge maybe dark souls but you have unlimited time to win in those boss battles. Just made a new build for masters touch
Teostra gamma head
nerg gamma chest
damascus coil
Teostra alpha arms ( ineed another ticket to make gamma)
Teostra gamma legs
I do have full drachen I got from all my attempts at fighting it that would be better
masters touch
crit eye 7
atk boost 4
Weakness exploit 3
Critboost 3
vitality 3
focus 2
fortify
max might 1
Darn just realized I need non element boost i think i can fit it in when i get gamma teo arms when the event quest comes back, if i did my decoration math correct. Gonna see if I can get more skills with my drachen. I probably need vitality 2 at the very least no matter the build it just makes me so much more confident.
[VN] Michael Doan Sep 5, 2019 @ 10:41pm 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855152546

Just a suggestion.

You can slot utility deco as you want,
Last edited by [VN] Michael Doan; Sep 5, 2019 @ 10:43pm
Hammerjack Sep 5, 2019 @ 10:57pm 
Originally posted by VN Michael Doan:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1855152546

Just a suggestion.

You can slot utility deco as you want,
Pretty mean build I unfortunately have been very unlucky on the decoration rng I only have 1 charger gem and focus 2 seems pretty much mandatory I will see if I can get the same result but switching out a piece or two since I dont have 2 charger gems, I have to go farm investigations anyways for decorations and more armor spheres so I can max out more sets, might get lucky and get a focus gem, to bad that lavasioth/jagras quest is gone.
I kind of miss the old system where we farmed for charms instead of decorations I am not dissing the new system just thought it was easier doing rng charm runs instead of rng decorations but its preference I guess. Also I forget does shoulder tackle take stam? If it does you combo it you lose the max might affinity is that correct?
Rantzas Sep 6, 2019 @ 1:21am 
If you want to make the armor and weapons from behemoth you dont have to kill him.
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