Can I divert power from BOTH the Deserters and Edgewater?

[mrmike_49]

Really don't like any of them!

[Inspector Gesicht]

No, but I recommend diverting to Edgewatre because you get to make a second choice after that.

[Taran Tatsuuchi]

Nope...

But, do note that the deserter's camp isn't particularly defensible, while edgewater has an entire wall protecting it...

[Tohtori Leka]

Origineel geplaatst door Taran Tatsuuchi:

Nope...

But, do note that the deserter's camp isn't particularly defensible, while edgewater has an entire wall protecting it...

Also, the lady leading the deserters is mad.

[letir]

Origineel geplaatst door Tohtori Leka:

Also, the lady leading the deserters is mad.

The leader of "official faction" is ruthless ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who cover his murderous policies with "we all big family" BS, while his corporation have no qualms about setting up mass murder to get money from insurance.

[Flippy]

*Spoilers*

I wouldnt do any spoilers but the game over writes saves. This is one improvement that could be made in an update.

Because the game overwrites save so even if play no deaths ironman, reloading trying to understand a story choice isnt an option.

Out of luck i got the good choice for this quest, and when i tried to reload to see the other option i couldnt, so i looked on Youtube and i found out i made the good choice.

So here is the spoiler.

If wanting to be friendly with both faction, the Botanical Garden, and Spacers Choice, then do all quests for both factions, then choose to power Edgewater, then convince the Edgewater boss to let the smart Botanical lady grow food for the town. Both factions happy then although more choices later in the game but unrelated for the moment.

Choosing to power the Garden is also an option but have to high intimidate to not have a full blown fight with Spacers Choice.

Those are the main options but there are other full blown battles options to.


Can find this all on Youtube, but this is the forums so not bad to see here either.

[lieutenantkirtar]

Quick saves and autosaves overwrite themselves but normal saves can go on a new slot every time.

[Flippy]

Ok thanks. I guess can make regular save on ship. Will try that.

[ᴛʜ3ᴘʀᴀᴠᴀᴛᴏ]

Kill them both.

[SeriousCCIE]

Yeah if you kill them both you can get two power converters! Although I have not actually attempted to feel out that outcome in practice, it has been a goal for my next supernova approach to gaming enlightenment.

Why make the challenge any easier by going with a lesser evil when you can provoke everyone?

[otakon17]

Origineel geplaatst door chozo:

So can everyone everywhere be taken down? Because that'd be what that universe needs. And supernova should square off the party members so all bases covered.

Yes, 99% of the cast in the game can be killed. There is really only one person you can't kill. Though I would recommend doing everyone's quests beforehand just for the experience and rewards first, taking down entire towns is no easy task.

[Dreadstone]

The leader of "official faction" is ruthless ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who cover his murderous policies with "we all big family" BS, while his corporation have no qualms about setting up mass murder to get money from insurance.

****************************** (SPOILERS ) ****************************

3) The overarching (surface) theme is "Corporations = bad / Individualism & Personal Freedom = good".

3a) You're entitled to that world view, (and I agree with the latter) but corporations are made up of people. GE doesn't pay taxes not because they're a corporation, they don't pay taxes because they have an army of lawyers poring over the laws, and an army of influence peddlers (AKA lobbyists), who use money and other sweeteners to get congress to write those laws.

(FYI, the local mom n pop store is not going into space. Elon Musk, backed by billions of dollars is.)

3b) From a distance, the Corporations are backed into a corner. Earth is "gone" (And if this takes place in the Fallout Universe, we know why). The system is being held together with duct tape, and oh by the way, nothing is coming our way any time soon, because home is a wasteland.

3bi) Also, apparently everyone is or ends up being sterile. This may be why the Hope (your colony ship) is of such high value.

3bii) Everyone is also clueless. Think Idiocracy. Even in Byzantium (Hunger Games capital city rip-off), while folks are bored, they should be slowly starving as well. (FYI the writers don't understand how starvation works). There's no amount of Tossball games that are going to override a growling stomach.

3c) This means, in the end, the "Corporations" are faced with the following:

- a closed system
- a decaying system
- inability to grow crops (although they're trying, however, using organic matter (bodies) as fertilizer is a BAD idea. It's why composters don't use meat. <-- I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS ONE, DO *** NOT *** USE MEAT SCRAPS IN YOUR COMPOST THAT YOU PLAN TO GROW VEGETABLES FOR EATING OR PLANTS FOR POLLINATION)
- inability to reproduce, which would just lead to quicker demise

All of the above leads the "corporation" to desperate times and measures. (Diet toothpaste? Really? Genetic manipulation. Hibernation (punting the problem))

The corporations (leadership) are, repeating myself, in a no-win situation. Anything they do is re-arranging the deck chairs on the (space) Titanic.

[felmari]

sometimes there is not good choice sometimes you have to chose the better option out of crap options as already stated chose the town you can still chose who leads it nether leaders are "bad" people and both are trying to do whats best in the ways they think is best. nether are willing to cooperate with each other to find the middle ground to contribute and compromise. personally i went with the deserters the plague was a direct result of their diet not to say fertilizing with dead bodies is a good idea.

[M.Red]

Origineel geplaatst door felmari:

sometimes there is not good choice sometimes you have to chose the better option out of crap options as already stated chose the town you can still chose who leads it nether leaders are "bad" people and both are trying to do whats best in the ways they think is best. nether are willing to cooperate with each other to find the middle ground to contribute and compromise. personally i went with the deserters the plague was a direct result of their diet not to say fertilizing with dead bodies is a good idea.

not ot mention that the cannery is not canning saltuna... so they have made the "plague" themselve. but its up to the player - destroy a faction or make peace with all

[Tohtori Leka]

Origineel geplaatst door Dreadstone:

The leader of "official faction" is ruthless ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who cover his murderous policies with "we all big family" BS, while his corporation have no qualms about setting up mass murder to get money from insurance.

****************************** (SPOILERS ) ****************************

3) The overarching (surface) theme is "Corporations = bad / Individualism & Personal Freedom = good".

3a) You're entitled to that world view, (and I agree with the latter) but corporations are made up of people. GE doesn't pay taxes not because they're a corporation, they don't pay taxes because they have an army of lawyers poring over the laws, and an army of influence peddlers (AKA lobbyists), who use money and other sweeteners to get congress to write those laws.

(FYI, the local mom n pop store is not going into space. Elon Musk, backed by billions of dollars is.)

3b) From a distance, the Corporations are backed into a corner. Earth is "gone" (And if this takes place in the Fallout Universe, we know why). The system is being held together with duct tape, and oh by the way, nothing is coming our way any time soon, because home is a wasteland.

3bi) Also, apparently everyone is or ends up being sterile. This may be why the Hope (your colony ship) is of such high value.

3bii) Everyone is also clueless. Think Idiocracy. Even in Byzantium (Hunger Games capital city rip-off), while folks are bored, they should be slowly starving as well. (FYI the writers don't understand how starvation works). There's no amount of Tossball games that are going to override a growling stomach.

3c) This means, in the end, the "Corporations" are faced with the following:

- a closed system
- a decaying system
- inability to grow crops (although they're trying, however, using organic matter (bodies) as fertilizer is a BAD idea. It's why composters don't use meat. <-- I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS ONE, DO *** NOT *** USE MEAT SCRAPS IN YOUR COMPOST THAT YOU PLAN TO GROW VEGETABLES FOR EATING OR PLANTS FOR POLLINATION)
- inability to reproduce, which would just lead to quicker demise

All of the above leads the "corporation" to desperate times and measures. (Diet toothpaste? Really? Genetic manipulation. Hibernation (punting the problem))

The corporations (leadership) are, repeating myself, in a no-win situation. Anything they do is re-arranging the deck chairs on the (space) Titanic.

It doesn't take place in the Fallout universe. In Fallout the Earth was "destroyed" in 2077 and in The Outer Worlds the colony ships were sent from Earth in 2285 and the game takes place in 2355 when they find out that there have been no news from Earth in three years, which would mean whatever happened with Earth happened in 2352 or earlier depending how long it takes for news to arrive from Earth.

Also the writers do understand how starvation works. You'll know it if you read the transcripts aboard the Hope. No one in the game was actually starving yet. They were going to run out of food, they hadn't run out yet.

[letir]

Origineel geplaatst door Dreadstone:

All of the above leads the "corporation" to desperate times and measures. (Diet toothpaste? Really? Genetic manipulation. Hibernation (punting the problem))

I don't see any "desperation" in the world, only complete corporate ruthlesness and amorality, backed up with total lack of emapthy. Their abuse and crimes have no grave cause to solve. Corporations seem people as renewable resources and treating them as such.

Problem on Endgewater was created by profit-based decision to reduce quality of production. When people start to get sick, mayour decided to push corporate policies further and denied medicine without any attempt to resolve situation. He is responsible of mass murder at least.

While I dislike heavy-handed approach of the game, every piece of in-universe evidence is clearly stating that trusting in corporate good will is insanity.