I dont think this game is SJW prop. but you cant deny that..

[BobboilDandee]

You simply cannot deny that this game does have a strange fixation toward women NPCs though. and they all seem to have short hair and colored hair. So i can see why people are screaming SJW.

I would say about 70-80 of the NPCs are female characters, Only a fraction are Men characters and they seem to all be flawed or "bad guys" in a certain perspective.

other than that I really dont see how its SJW stuff, Im very surprised actually that it doesnt choose sides regarding capitalism.

they make very valid points where capitalism can work, and also very good examples when CORP. take advantage and then make capitalism "bad"

really getting a New Vegas vibe where they really didnt paint NCR or Brotherhood as all "Good" or all "bad" in reality its just all politics, and individuals that can change the world.

their are so many times where this game could of taken the SJW route and shoved some propaganda down your throat, but they held off on that and provided perspectives, Props to the writers.

[kirill-busidow]

Remember "my face is tired" main female protagonist in Mass Effect Andromeda? Well, she looked pretty. And then they made her ugly. Done with intention, not a mistake.

Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qG2T0FUlZU

This makes me suspect that in this game - this was also a thought out policy, not a mistake to make most girls look like ugly or masculine.

[deserthamster]

You can basically feel the ideology and agenda of the devs. Its sad that they could not make a balanced product. Its not as bad as andromeda, but give them a few more years, obsidian will be bioware...

[kirill-busidow]

Remember this image whenever someone said they went with this kind of hair because long hair is hard to animate.

http://tinyimg.io/i/clV1Tex.jpg

[jack_of_tears]

There are plenty of terrible women in the game, too, don't be fooled by the whiners. I agree that this game is certainly on the 'inclusivity' train, but it's handled well and I never felt like it was rubbed in my face, or I was being lectured to. Indeed, I think this game handles the question of 'inclusivity' with a lot more maturity and realism than Bioware has in awhile.

引用自 kirill-busidow：

Remember "my face is tired" main female protagonist in Mass Effect Andromeda? Well, she looked pretty. And then they made her ugly. Done with intention, not a mistake.

Oh yeah, Andromeda was obvious about how it forced 'ugly women' down your throat, making it difficult to even produce a good looking female character with the original character-creator. The difference here, though, is that Bioware did this intentionally, while I feel any 'ugliness' associated with Outer Worlds characters is merely a limitation of the graphics style they chose.

This makes me suspect that in this game - this was also a thought out policy, not a mistake to make most girls look like ugly or masculine.

As stated above, I don't believe that's true, but even if it were, I don't feel like the females in this game are ugly at all. They look like real people (within the art style) and I find many of the woman attractive.

[Revolucas]

There is no limitation on the graphic style. You can do anything you want in Unreal Engine, it's just a framework and hair is something that people had down for quite a while now, even some versions of Nvidia Hairworks are open source. As for the art direction, the art clearly takes inspiration from 1950s science fiction. Instead of going with Barbarella, then went with Rosie the Riveter. There is no way in hell this ISN'T intentional.

[deserthamster]

Just had a 2nd amendment interaction. Talk about hamfisting stuff in. I am not even American...

[BobboilDandee]

引用自 jack_of_tears：

There are plenty of terrible women in the game, too, don't be fooled by the whiners. I agree that this game is certainly on the 'inclusivity' train, but it's handled well and I never felt like it was rubbed in my face, or I was being lectured to. Indeed, I think this game handles the question of 'inclusivity' with a lot more maturity and realism than Bioware has in awhile.

引用自 kirill-busidow：

Remember "my face is tired" main female protagonist in Mass Effect Andromeda? Well, she looked pretty. And then they made her ugly. Done with intention, not a mistake.

Oh yeah, Andromeda was obvious about how it forced 'ugly women' down your throat, making it difficult to even produce a good looking female character with the original character-creator. The difference here, though, is that Bioware did this intentionally, while I feel any 'ugliness' associated with Outer Worlds characters is merely a limitation of the graphics style they chose.

This makes me suspect that in this game - this was also a thought out policy, not a mistake to make most girls look like ugly or masculine.

As stated above, I don't believe that's true, but even if it were, I don't feel like the females in this game are ugly at all. They look like real people (within the art style) and I find many of the woman attractive.

well said, I can see elements of this SJW train, but it seems like Obsidian Higher ups kept it at a balance, Im sure alot of the feminist dev team tried to jam more into it, but I suspect the team leads did a compromise with them.

Like others have already said, it seems the most Tone downed of all the Woke culture games out there. yeah there is some in there, but its not super in your face down your throat, like most obsidian games, they still provide alternative view points and perspectives, like real life.

[deserthamster]

引用自 Beavis's Daddy：

well said, I can see elements of this SJW train, but it seems like Obsidian Higher ups kept it at a balance, Im sure alot of the feminist dev team tried to jam more into it, but I suspect the team leads did a compromise with them.

Like others have already said, it seems the most Tone downed of all the Woke culture games out there. yeah there is some in there, but its not super in your face down your throat, like most obsidian games, they still provide alternative view points and perspectives, like real life.

I think we are in the inquisition 2 area now. the next one will be full on woke unless they change something.

[BobboilDandee]

引用自 deserthamster：

引用自 Beavis's Daddy：

well said, I can see elements of this SJW train, but it seems like Obsidian Higher ups kept it at a balance, Im sure alot of the feminist dev team tried to jam more into it, but I suspect the team leads did a compromise with them.

Like others have already said, it seems the most Tone downed of all the Woke culture games out there. yeah there is some in there, but its not super in your face down your throat, like most obsidian games, they still provide alternative view points and perspectives, like real life.

I think we are in the inquisition 2 area now. the next one will be full on woke unless they change something.

I hope Microsoft tones it down even more, Microsoft so far is being smart, they are the few companies not completly going WOKE.

I hope they see that doing so hurts their company.

[deserthamster]

引用自 Beavis's Daddy：

引用自 deserthamster：

I think we are in the inquisition 2 area now. the next one will be full on woke unless they change something.

I hope Microsoft tones it down even more, Microsoft so far is being smart, they are the few companies not completly going WOKE.

I hope they see that doing so hurts their company.

i hope so as well. the wokeness is stopping this from being a good game. it just breaks the immersion for me. i can just imagine someone with a feminist blog drinking a soy latte while coding this...

[Sentient_Toaster]

They're eating and working in what's basically toxic alien rocks and waste, and also they're also set well into the future. It would be absurd if they all dressed and looked like they're from 2019.

[bigbishounen]

In another thread someone posted a pic of the dev team. All women. All white or asian. ALL look like stereotypical "Butch Lesbians". Half of them have ADA's hairstyle.

Anyone who thinks this game isn't intended for that audience is kidding themselves.

[Hayley]

as a female i'm appalled that obsidian thinks we all look like butches

[Diablerie]

Know what's worse than an sjw? People who dig through everything looking for plots and conspiracy theories.

[kirill-busidow]

引用自 jack_of_tears：

I don't feel like the females in this game are ugly at all. They look like real people (within the art style) and I find many of the woman attractive.

Your desires are ... unconventional.