Ending

[Wyrtt]

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[Wyrtt]

Its rather meh. You are so cool and everyone loves you so much. They even offere you a positions of god emprerror of humanity or what is left of it.
Everyone band together and fight for a better future where everything is perfect. THE END.

I ended the game with 100+ skill points unspent. Almost zero need to skills. 90% of locked doors lead you to ammo or armor parts. Hacking saves your time by killing everyone for 3-4 times per entire game. Other skills just give you +exp. Only dialogue skills do anything interesting but that is true for 2-3 times in main quest.
You can unite MSI and force Sophie to go home. All other options mostly give you money or just exp.

[Sentient_Toaster]

With the right build, you can demand a box of cereal as your main reward. ;)

The corporate ending isn't really 'perfect', though. Groundbreaker comes under Board influence and loses much of its prosperity, the towns outside Byzantium and possibly Stellar Bay (depending on your actions, anyway) become ghost towns, everybody from the Hope dies. The 'plan'... works in its intended fashion as a stopgap, but it's not clear about the long run or how long Byzantium can keep going.

Not sure what happens if in the Welles ending, you sacrificed the people in order to get *all* the chemicals and therefore allow Welles to unfreeze far more people rather than being selective.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally posted by Sentient_Toaster:

With the right build, you can demand a box of cereal as your main reward. ;)

The corporate ending isn't really 'perfect', though. Groundbreaker comes under Board influence and loses much of its prosperity, the towns outside Byzantium and possibly Stellar Bay (depending on your actions, anyway) become ghost towns, everybody from the Hope dies. The 'plan'... works in its intended fashion as a stopgap, but it's not clear about the long run or how long Byzantium can keep going.

Not sure what happens if in the Welles ending, you sacrificed the people in order to get *all* the chemicals and therefore allow Welles to unfreeze far more people rather than being selective.

Theres a tiny bit about welles never forgetting their sacrifice. It has zero effect on the outcome otherwise. This game is painfully shallow. Both endings are the same with the characters simply reversed and some slight dialogue changes. As far as I know there isnt even really an ending where you've "failed" and everyone dies.

[Sentient_Toaster]

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove:

Theres a tiny bit about welles never forgetting their sacrifice. It has zero effect on the outcome otherwise. This game is painfully shallow. Both endings are the same with the characters simply reversed and some slight dialogue changes. As far as I know there isnt even really an ending where you've "failed" and everyone dies.

Well, you can incinerate the Hope into the local sun with you and all the sleepers on board, thus ruining the plans of both the Board and Welles...

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally posted by Sentient_Toaster:

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove:

Theres a tiny bit about welles never forgetting their sacrifice. It has zero effect on the outcome otherwise. This game is painfully shallow. Both endings are the same with the characters simply reversed and some slight dialogue changes. As far as I know there isnt even really an ending where you've "failed" and everyone dies.

Well, you can incinerate the Hope into the local sun with you and all the sleepers on board, thus ruining the plans of both the Board and Welles...

Ah I stand corrected about that then. The other endings are virtually the same though.

[Wyrtt]

Originally posted by Sentient_Toaster:

With the right build, you can demand a box of cereal as your main reward. ;)

The corporate ending isn't really 'perfect', though. Groundbreaker comes under Board influence and loses much of its prosperity, the towns outside Byzantium and possibly Stellar Bay (depending on your actions, anyway) become ghost towns, everybody from the Hope dies. The 'plan'... works in its intended fashion as a stopgap, but it's not clear about the long run or how long Byzantium can keep going.

Not sure what happens if in the Welles ending, you sacrificed the people in order to get *all* the chemicals and therefore allow Welles to unfreeze far more people rather than being selective.

Fate of individual npc and colonies depends on you finishind faction and companion sidequests. But it only matter if you care about Nyoka going sober or not.

[Tenshin51]

Agreed the main problem with this game for me.
There is only 2 faction that are having conflict in this game. The rest of the Faction and location are just baggage.

Also the game is too much Black and White.The Board doesn't have any grey side but pure comical evil. Welles is just the Deus ex Machina that solves everything. The Stranger just got caught in this mess. Which is the ending of the game lol

The narrative is not bad at all, that The Stranger is not some sort chosen one but just science project by a crazy scientist. This Scientist need this individual due his assistant die in an accident. Which is freakin great, The Stranger reminds me of FNV Courier. Sadly his main quest just doesn't affect most faction in the game at all.

Edgewater or the Starting location is freakin great, Reed is definitely the bad guy but can be reason with then Adelaide the good guy but a manipulating B1tch.

Starting location have the best story in the game. The rest of the side quest seems ok and the main story is a meh.

[Wyrtt]

Originally posted by Tenshin51:

Agreed the main problem with this game for me.
There is only 2 faction that are having conflict in this game. The rest of the Faction and location are just baggage.

Also the game is too much Black and White.The Board doesn't have any grey side but pure comical evil. Welles is just the Deus ex Machina that solves everything. The Stranger just got caught in this mess. Which is the ending of the game lol

The narrative is not bad at all, that The Stranger is not some sort chosen one but just science project by a crazy scientist. This Scientist need this individual due his assistant die in an accident. Which is freakin great, The Stranger reminds me of FNV Courier. Sadly his main quest just doesn't affect most faction in the game at all.

Edgewater or the Starting location is freakin great, Reed is definitely the bad guy but can be reason with then Adelaide the good guy but a manipulating B1tch.

Starting location have the best story in the game. The rest of the side quest seems ok and the main story is a meh.

Nah. Adelaide is a pure evil. She is just bitter that her son did not get preferential treatmen and thats it. Even in you are JESUS ending she refuses to help humanity and dies like a garbage.
Helping Edgewater is a better decisions in a long run as after you become god emperor you can fix Edgewater while Adelaide ending kills more people.

[Tenshin51]

Some average player pretty much identify Adelaide a good character even though she has a darker side. Just look at this steam forum and reddit.

This is why Edgewater is the best quest and story in the game for me. Sadly the grey side in the game just ended quickly with the poor writing of the Board Storyline.

Is quite disappointment the main quest just turn into Black and White. Monarch faction is not bad but it is full of plot holes. Groundbreaker, Rosemary, Byzantium and Scylla are pointless chore side quest. Rosemary quest have some potential sadly some of it's content been cut in the game.

[Wyrtt]

Originally posted by Tenshin51:

Some average player pretty much identify Adelaide a good character even though she has a darker side. Just look at this steam forum and reddit.

This is why Edgewater is the best quest and story in the game for me. Sadly the grey side in the game just ended quickly with the poor writing of the Board Storyline.

Is quite disappointment the main quest just turn into Black and White. Monarch faction is not bad but it is full of plot holes. Groundbreaker, Rosemary, Byzantium and Scylla are pointless chore side quest. Rosemary quest have some potential sadly some of it's content been cut in the game.

Factory side quest on Monarch was shown in demo for a reason, Its the ONLY good open ended quest where you can use all of your skill to finish it. Rest of the game is linear chore.
Monarch itselfs is just a time gate to prevent you from finishing main quest too fast. You are forced to do factions quests just because.
But after Monarch game ends. Rest of the content is all about running back and forth for few hours doing nothing in corridors.
Tartarus is a joke. Its supposed to be this epic fight where all your good deeds pay off and factions help you to fight against guards. Right? Wrong. Game stealth mechanics allowed me to slowly walk around and do nothing untill end credits. Mass effect 2 ending was way better,

[Tenshin51]

Kinda agree with quest types in Monarch but the narrative in Monarch have some sort potential. It is suppose to show the grey side and importance of the Board in the Colony.

Sadly the writers in TOW double down themselves again portrayed the Board incompetent and not so important in the colony.

Seriously in the neutral ending in Monarch, MSI doesn't need the Board anymore due to iconoclast. Also what is the point of the Board gun relay modulator anymore in that ending??

[The Badman]

It wasnt supposed to paint the Board in any better light. The planet was abandoned by the board in the 1st place. It was supposed to show how colonists react to their abandonment: one tries to overhaul the business while another tries to eat the rich™

Also it was revealed the board neutralised the government to be the sole power in the colony. So the board has abused their authority since the start.

The board is just full villain in this game, the only "grey" part is there are decent people inside its structure.

[capnclammy]

Originally posted by Tenshin51:

Agreed the main problem with this game for me.
There is only 2 faction that are having conflict in this game. The rest of the Faction and location are just baggage.

Also the game is too much Black and White.The Board doesn't have any grey side but pure comical evil. Welles is just the Deus ex Machina that solves everything. The Stranger just got caught in this mess. Which is the ending of the game lol

The narrative is not bad at all, that The Stranger is not some sort chosen one but just science project by a crazy scientist. This Scientist need this individual due his assistant die in an accident. Which is freakin great, The Stranger reminds me of FNV Courier. Sadly his main quest just doesn't affect most faction in the game at all.

Edgewater or the Starting location is freakin great, Reed is definitely the bad guy but can be reason with then Adelaide the good guy but a manipulating B1tch.

Starting location have the best story in the game. The rest of the side quest seems ok and the main story is a meh.

Yep this all sound spot on.

[AbedsBrother]

Here's the ending I got on my first playthrough (chairman as puppet):

- Welles begins reviving a few of the scientists (didn't take all the chemicals)
- many of the settlements band together to survive - "most of them found a way to carry on"
- Sanjar & Zora = hugely successful alliance
- Hagen (Sublight) consumed by paranoia
- Adelaide pressured anyone loyal to Reed to leave, but transformed Edgewater into a garden paradise
- Junlei established tech school on Groundbreaker to teach future generations (promising future)
- Byzantium - "Everyone had to make do with less. Some even had to get jobs..."
- Ellie - got her own ship
- Max - helped people and defended the helpless
- Parvati - permanently joined Junlei on the Groundbreaker
- Nyoka - returned to Monarch, formed her own group of scouts
- SAM - spread the word about power of SAM products, resulting in uptick in mechanical sales
- Minister Clarke - helped Halcyon
- Chairman - string-puller-in-chief
- Welles - eventually saved everyone on the Hope
- Halcyon has stabilized
- and you: the colony never realized you were the true power, controlling Halcyon from the shadows. "As a result, Halcyon survived the turbulent years that were to follow."

Felt satisfied with the ending I got. Also felt that it reflected the choices I made. Have to do an "evil" playthrough to see how different it is, but for now I'm satisfied.