How many cheaters are there?

[Sir Diesel]

How many cheaters do you think you run into each game?

[Mr. Mackey]

Publicado originalmente por Sbon12345 (Sweden):

Publicado originalmente por Grondolf:

Hi, i just want to add my experience to this neverending thread, because I really had a lot of fun in the last month playing every day around 4 hours the "Normal Squad"- Modes. (I play on and off since 2017). That means i must have played around 300 Games this month, and i can honestly say (and i am no damn troll) that i didnt meet a single cheater.
My chicken-Dinner-rate is around 20%, so at least in 60 Games there were no cheaters for sure. Only thing i encounterd twice were people who shot their own team and once (about a year ago) i saw two guys teaming up in Solo_mode.
When i got killed it was always my own fault, cause my aim is still kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥ after 600 hours played or i got completely surprised, which is to be expected in that game.


Hope that helps, bye

I am not trying to be rude.

You have no clue what a cheater does when they kill you. You get killed much more by cheaters than you have a clue about.

Now, you are also a liar. Write you in-game nick here, so that everybody can see that you are a liar, 20% chicken-dinner rate is only a lie.

Most likely you get one chicken dinner now and then, at most. I mean, no really good pro player writes in this joke forum. When somebody claims to be that good, they are most likely cheaters themselves. And they want to get some frustration out by trolling in here. Sad really.....

The ones in denial are either cheaters, developers, associated with Krafton, or simply brain dead

[Dragosani]

Publicado originalmente por Hello:

Publicado originalmente por Dragosani:

You don't play. Just troll.

What's your in-game name?

Take a guess, smart lad

[Hydraxonra]

Publicado originalmente por 33333333:

only a few here and there

a lot of players wish, hope, and pretend like 99% of the entire playerbase is hacking

there are hackers, but these people are just doing it in bad faith because they didn't like the fact they lost all their nice loot and were sent back to the lobby

don't be that guy

Start getting a real gaming sense here. Then push yourself further the first phase of each games then start to fight peps not bots. After all that step done. Just come back here and we will start talking (♥♥♥♥♥♥ like usual with you BOT) but anyway.

[Shady Knights]

Plenty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbizN5BV0vI

Watch from 10:10 for replay of game for suspected cheaters


BTW - the match took place 22 days ago. Only one of the cheaters called out by SimplyMatthias has been permabanned. All others featuring in the video are still playing and are in good standing. GG PUBG.

Match is in Asia, however, it's still the same anticheat, the same reporting system, and the same leniency that PUBG gives cheating suspects with their "zero tolerance" approach.

[[poop]Arbitration]

at least 4 per game (usually a squad of cheaters)

[BadJules]

Yeah, SimplyMatthias Video pretty much sums it up,
i think it is even worse in normal Pubs - and this is FPP even xD

[Shady Knights]

Publicado originalmente por Dawnmourn_TTV:

Publicado originalmente por Sir Diesel:

How many cheaters do you think you run into each game?

A lot in tpp Asia.
Some in tpp EU.
Not many in tpp NA.
A lot in fpp Asia.
Some in fpp EU.
Not many in fpp NA.

NA accounts for less than 5,000 total players according to a recent demographic survey that PUBG CORP released. You may see cheating on NA, and it may feel like a lot since you're playing against the same people over and over and thus the same cheaters.

Publicado originalmente por Shady Knights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbizN5BV0vI

Watch from 10:10 for replay of game for suspected cheaters

Also, it shows the state of the game when Shady has to use an example involving a streamer who lost their PUBG PARTNER status over getting caught cheating himself.

After this came out, Soniqs put him on their backup roster and he's never been taken off the backup list; they can't risk being DQd for cheating in tournaments.

There are videos on YouTube of them being caught accidentally turning on bounding boxes on all players. And when you ask them to stream their monitor, they get extremely defensive and start listing dozens of excuses why that's not possible. The only reason a streamer would pushback on this is if they have cheat overlays to hide.

He's also been accused of running no recoil macros (just watch that his mouse barely moves when he full autos any gun and he has no recoil) by other Pro players (Shrimzy, one of his own clan members asked him live on stream if he was running macros, the same clan member who then placed him on the backup roster)

This is also in Asia not NA where everyone here plays. How bad cheating is in Asia tells us two things:

1. Most of the cheaters banned (99.6% according to Battleye) come from Asia region.

2. There aren't as many cheaters on NA as people think.

How does any of this invalidate any of the points I made?

It's the same anticheat system, reporting, and banning regardless of region right? What makes you think that the cheaters in NA get banned all the time, while the ones in Asia clearly are being ignored/let off by PUBG?

Or.. is it in fact, encouraging cheating by not even bothering about most of the reports players make (regardless of region).

Players using VPN's from Asia make up a good portion of the player base in both NA, EU and elsewhere, outside of prime time hours. They likely make up 95% of the active global player base at any given time. The cheating issue is not constrained by region.

You may see less, but the same lack of actions apply to the ones you do see.

Also, if you unsubstantiated claims about SimplyMatthias are true, it further strengthens what I've been saying as their PUBG account is in good standing. I'm guessing that they are playing ranked in Asia simply because the playerbase in NA is too dead to get games in ranked consistently.

[a Nameless Henchman]

All who aren't bots

[Lega]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vui-YBPvaKM&list=LL&index=12&t=5792s

00:18:50 - Explanation about anti-cheat developers buying the cheats and problems about it.

00:33:00 How many false bans are accepted?

00:49:00 How useful are bans through video evidence?

00:55:00 How much priority has replay based evidence?

It confirms pretty much everything I told here for a long time and the interview contains even more useful information's including, what's about ID gaming etc.

The use of wall-hack will be limited anyway once they polished Fog of War and they also work on AI that helps to filter cases or they improve the system further in case they already have once.

What's gonna happen after?

Cheaters evolve and this will eat all the improvements they have made and the situation will be the same as today. PUBG will improve further as they did in the past a lot but the complains won't end.

g0at, the creator of the video, "The Wiggle That Killed Tarkov", stopped to play shooters after this interview because he got all the answers he needed to understand, most games can't improve the situation soon.

[Shady Knights]

Publicado originalmente por Lega:

most games can't improve the situation soon.

Most games don't ignore player reports with blatant cheating in them. PUBG in game reports have 1 minute of play before and after the time the report function is clicked.

There is no excuse for not processing reports where blatant cheating is being shown. Get AI to do it automatically instead of a human. Process it within 15 minutes of the report being done.

The video I linked demonstrates just how bad PUBG ignore obvious cheating. There's no reason why all the players reported should not be banned already.

This is exactly why PUBG has this issue. It's lack of action on it from the get go has allowed the problem to cultivate and flourish. Most games, serious about cheating don't turn a blind eye to the problem and ignore obvious cheating like PUBG is.

Suggesting that they can't improve the problem is wrong, when they clearly can improve.

[76561199485489058]

260k bans, 250k average players on...anyone saying they rarely see hackers are lying because those banned players would have played in your games as well before being banned...EVERY PLAYER at MINIMUM will see AT LEAST 1 per game...ATLEAST and that's being EXTREMELY lenient....not to mention I literally backed out of 100 lobbies sunday PRIME GAMING weekend and EVERY GAME was 51%-90% bots...game started at 10-49 players in TPP squads..

[jackdoslanti]

Publicado originalmente por Dawnmourn_TTV:

2. There aren't as many cheaters on NA as people think.

You have no data to back this up. Total assumption. Almost sound like Lega telling people what they should think and that their own experiences are wrong.....

Or, if you got a source for the primary data, please share

[jackdoslanti]

Only streamers or partners you can trust are those that show their screen. Majority do not/will not as they make $$$ from looking good in video games. Part of this could be they're cheating themselves. Hand cams and keyb cams are useless - Show your screen.

Supporters giving $$$ to streamers are essentially Stockholm Syndrome sufferers - too ashamed to admit the people they give money to are conning them....It's really sad, but, it means that there is an opportunity for honest game streamers to make a really nice living - if they could just get over their own fragile egos and accept that it isn't "being good" at the game which makes you $$$, but being honest and truthful (and fun!) and giving the paying customer decent entertainment.....

[kot i bUdka]

all players

[Mike Tuah]

most of china