PUBG: BATTLEGROUNDS

PUBG: BATTLEGROUNDS

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WhiteRabbit Aug 23, 2024 @ 9:13am
PUBG killed by Cheaters
WOW, what a afternoon.... never seen so much cheating. aimbots and esp everywhere. looks like we have reached a critical point. is the anticheat offline??? i thought, i reach my 3000 hours, but this massive cheating makes no sense...... its a shame, what happen to tis game.....
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清冲游戏 Sep 8, 2024 @ 3:03am 
Originally posted by WhiteRabbit:
WOW, what a afternoon.... never seen so much cheating. aimbots and esp everywhere. looks like we have reached a critical point. is the anticheat offline??? i thought, i reach my 3000 hours, but this massive cheating makes no sense...... its a shame, what happen to tis game.....
If you cant beat them join them.
Lega Sep 8, 2024 @ 4:44am 
Originally posted by Shady Knights:
Originally posted by کkﻻ:
You've never heard of COD BR.

PUBG has banned 40 million plus accounts for cheating in it's lifetime.

Does COD BR get close to that?

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/activision-drops-the-ban-hammer-on-more-than-65000-call-of-duty-cheaters

PUBG banned over 130k last week (a drop in the ocean of cheats). This is routine. COD's ban waves are infrequent.

No doubt both games are infested with cheating, but PUBG's cheating issue dwarfs COD's, and is possibly the game with the worst cheating issue ever on PC.

Please tell me, how do you know the game didn't fail to ban more cheaters?

You don't know it and you don't ask/look for it, that's the problem.

Apex has banned only 6 million accounts since early 2019 but the game has the same confirmed problem. Even the one known area got nammed by Respawn.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1172470/view/4281321170585581415

"We’ve grown our anti-cheat team in targeted regions, like Asia-Pacific, that have been particularly hard-hit by global cheating activity."

Keep in mind, it's the first letter of Apex since then because they never talk about it.
The franchis of COD exist even longer but the first better system got added when?

2022, almost 20 years after the first release.

Watch the video on my profil, commend section, there you can see, cheats are able to bypass the AC. How do they do this?

They just block the communication between the AC client and the servers, no live tracking of data. How does PUBG, Fortnite or any better system work if something like this happens?

They kick the player from the service. No live tracking, no play. Maybe the fixed it already but the fact it was there for a long time tells a lot about the quality of their AC system. Your conclusion only makes sense if all AC system work exactly the same but that isn't the case because most old franchise failed to fight cheating properly.
Last edited by Lega; Sep 8, 2024 @ 4:57am
Shady Knights Sep 8, 2024 @ 7:45am 
Originally posted by Lega:

Please tell me, how do you know the game didn't fail to ban more cheaters?

You don't know it and you don't ask/look for it, that's the problem.

What? I've read this 5 times and I still don't know how to answer it or why I should I answer it. How do I know that the game didn't fail to ban more cheaters?


What exactly do you have a problem with on my post?

1. PUBG has banned over 40 million accounts for cheating since it launched. This is true, and it is the minimum amount of known cheaters in the game because it's PUBG and it's partner companies (eg. Battleye) that have told us bans year on year and we can add them up.

2. PUBG banned over 130k last week - This is also true. PUBG's weekly ban report shows this.

3. PUBG's cheating issue dwarfs COD's, and is possibly the game with the worst cheating issue ever on PC. - Unless you can provide something compelling my opinion on this stays as I am basing this point point 1, and until another game even gets close to this level of confirmed cheaters then it must be very possible to be true.



The rest of your post sounds super defensive and goes off on a tangent about Apex for some reason. What of Apex? It's infested with cheating too....so what?
Lega Sep 8, 2024 @ 8:06am 
@Shady Knights

I asked you, how do you know the anti-cheat of CoD didn't fail to ban more cheaters?

PUBG bans more accounts, your conclusion, cheating increased but this is just one possible reason why it increased.

You use data how you need it without to see other possible points.
Last edited by Lega; Sep 8, 2024 @ 8:49am
ans.irfan Sep 8, 2024 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by WhiteRabbit:
WOW, what a afternoon.... never seen so much cheating. aimbots and esp everywhere. looks like we have reached a critical point. is the anticheat offline??? i thought, i reach my 3000 hours, but this massive cheating makes no sense...... its a shame, what happen to tis game.....
Bro, i think its not only offline, cheaters have even disabled the report button in some instances, im reporting almost every normal map i play since april probably, couldnt report this bloke in karakin just now so had to save a screenshot :)
Shady Knights Sep 8, 2024 @ 4:56pm 
Originally posted by Lega:
@Shady Knights

I asked you, how do you know the anti-cheat of CoD didn't fail to ban more cheaters?

PUBG bans more accounts........

When a cheater is banned, on both games, their account is banned.

You are asking how I know that COD didn't ban more cheaters than PUBG, then go on to say that PUBG bans more accounts than COD.....


You already know the answer. The level of infestation is measured by the amount of accounts that have been banned. My claim is that the bans that COD have made on cheaters are nowhere near 40+ million, you seem to agree with this.

I referenced their recent ban efforts published publicly and contrasted that against PUBG's latest weekly ban report which is routine and not exceptional like it is for COD.

The difference is stark and obvious.


The only counterpoint to this is that PUBG are doing such an exceptional job against cheating v's other games and the 40+ million account bans is proof positive at how they are combating cheating. Unfortunately this point ignores the weekly ban reports that continually undermine any argument that PUBG is a much cleaner game than others, and also assumes that PUBG ban all the cheaters all the time. All data in my experience points to only a very small minority of the cheaters being picked up each week and added to the ban report.


So what is your issue here? You don't like the reality that I am presenting? Does it go against the false narrative that PUBG are leading the fight on cheats and are doing a great job? Sorry if facts hurt your feelings.
Last edited by Shady Knights; Sep 8, 2024 @ 4:59pm
femboy cumstain Sep 8, 2024 @ 5:16pm 
While no one knows the amount of players who play PUBG on the Epic Games Platform, on Steam PUBG has 5x the peak players of COD, so it stands to reason that when you have 5-7x (or more depending on the Epic player count) that your game is also going to face a lot more cheaters than the game with a fraction of the players.

If Call of Shame is anything to go by, COD devs have just decided to turn the other cheak and look the other way on their top streamers and just allow them to blatantly cheat. The evidence he provides is damning.

PUBG isn't an outlier in terms of other BR games, they don't have way more cheaters because way more % of the playerbase cheats. They have way more cheaters because they have way more playerbase than the other BR games.
Pyromaniac (Banned) Sep 8, 2024 @ 6:46pm 
Forum Bots die das Problem mit den Cheatern kleinreden wollen. Typisch Abschaum =D
Lega Sep 9, 2024 @ 2:41am 
Originally posted by Shady Knights:
You already know the answer. The level of infestation is measured by the amount of accounts that have been banned. My claim is that the bans that COD have made on cheaters are nowhere near 40+ million, you seem to agree with this.

This is not the answer because I asked, how do you know the system of COD didn't fail to ban more?

Your comparison only makes sense if you know the anti-cheat of COD is as good as the system of PUBG but I showed you already, this is not the case. If PUBG has lower numbers you also don't say cheating has decreased, you say, the system failed but for some reason you never use it elsewhere.

I don't know why you don't see these obvious mistakes and there is no plausible reason why other games shouldn't be affected by the same problem.

Even more if you think that bad anti-cheats increase cheating.
Last edited by Lega; Sep 9, 2024 @ 2:47am
Shady Knights Sep 9, 2024 @ 2:47am 
Originally posted by Lega:
Originally posted by Shady Knights:
You already know the answer. The level of infestation is measured by the amount of accounts that have been banned. My claim is that the bans that COD have made on cheaters are nowhere near 40+ million, you seem to agree with this.

This is not the answer because I asked, how do you know the system of COD didn't fail to ban more?

Your comparison only makes sense if you know the anti-cheat of COD is as good as the system of PUBG but I showed you already, this is not the case. If PUBG has lower numbers you also don't say cheating has decreased, you say, the system failed but for some reason you never use it elsewhere.

I don't know why you don't see these obvious mistakes.

It's hard for you to playdown and deflect when PUBG themselves have found and banned 40+ million cheater accounts since their launch.

Harbouring that amount of cheaters is just bad no matter how you try and spin it.

PUBG IS the most cheated game on Steam. Make up all the excuses you like, still doesn't change this fact.
Lega Sep 9, 2024 @ 3:03am 
Originally posted by Shady Knights:
Originally posted by Lega:

This is not the answer because I asked, how do you know the system of COD didn't fail to ban more?

Your comparison only makes sense if you know the anti-cheat of COD is as good as the system of PUBG but I showed you already, this is not the case. If PUBG has lower numbers you also don't say cheating has decreased, you say, the system failed but for some reason you never use it elsewhere.

I don't know why you don't see these obvious mistakes.

It's hard for you to playdown and deflect when PUBG themselves have found and banned 40+ million cheater accounts since their launch.

Harbouring that amount of cheaters is just bad no matter how you try and spin it.

PUBG IS the most cheated game on Steam. Make up all the excuses you like, still doesn't change this fact.

Why don't you answer the question please?
Last edited by Lega; Sep 9, 2024 @ 3:03am
Ragman006 Sep 9, 2024 @ 5:35am 
Originally posted by Lega:
Originally posted by Shady Knights:

It's hard for you to playdown and deflect when PUBG themselves have found and banned 40+ million cheater accounts since their launch.

Harbouring that amount of cheaters is just bad no matter how you try and spin it.

PUBG IS the most cheated game on Steam. Make up all the excuses you like, still doesn't change this fact.

Why don't you answer the question please?
The hypocrisy here is astounding but not surprising. Trying to argue an correct and factual claim because it doesnt suit your agenda is making you look silly. Anyone with any common sense can see what your doing. By all means keep it up and lose any credibility you have left.
Last edited by Ragman006; Sep 9, 2024 @ 5:36am
Lega Sep 9, 2024 @ 7:05am 
Originally posted by Ragman006:
Originally posted by Lega:

Why don't you answer the question please?
The hypocrisy here is astounding but not surprising. Trying to argue an correct and factual claim because it doesnt suit your agenda is making you look silly. Anyone with any common sense can see what your doing. By all means keep it up and lose any credibility you have left.

That's the third/fourth distraction to avoid my question and you think I don't have credibility.

It's like, you claim again it's a fact but once I try to show it isn't, you point on what you think my agenda is. You can't prove your words by discrediting my person.

I don't think you don't know what you do because it's too obvious.
Last edited by Lega; Sep 9, 2024 @ 7:14am
Shady Knights Sep 9, 2024 @ 4:19pm 
@Lega - Your question was already answered. You just don't like my answer. Deal with it.
Lega Sep 9, 2024 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by Shady Knights:
@Lega - Your question was already answered. You just don't like my answer. Deal with it.

I read it again and no, you didn't say anything how do you know COD didn't fail to ban more cheaters.

I don't expect a yes or no, as someone else said to me some days ago, but if you don't say anything about my point I asked, yes it is a problem and I ask again.

https://x.com/SteamDB/status/938080985249435649

Here you can see some data and how VAC only banned 100k accounts a month and keep in mind, it's the same system for many games not just Counter Strike. December 2018, VAC managed to ban up 1,5-2 million accounts in just two months because the system finally got improved to ban more cheaters than before. The old system failed so badly, it's incredible.

https://www.esports.net/news/cod/team-ricochet-activision-cheaters-bans/

Better systems catch more cheaters and even COD banned as many accounts as PUBG does and they just started. They also will catch more and more but since they started to fight cheating as one of the last of all old franchises, they stay behind enourmisly.

PUBG is one of the most cheated game and this is the only fact so far and I don't know how you can think PUBG is special because in that area, cheating is a massive issue in all games except maybe one, Valorant. Even this could be wrong but at least, the system of Valorant could be strong enough to minimize it effectively.

I did google region lock XXX and yes, a lot of games, the final, counter strike, Tarkov, even games like Hell let loose, ask the same question....
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