Is the anticheat still invasive?

[Jonnbay]

I remember while back there being a controversy about pubg anticheat software (xhunter or wellbia?). The anticheat would keep running even after you close the program and would not uninstall from your system even after you deleted the game. You had to take extra steps to remove and even edit registry. A lot of people were angry.

Is this still the case? Or was it fixed?

[Dose of reality]

It is invasive and it does next to nothing to prevent cheaters from cheating. The games anti cheat relies almost entirely on manual review of replay footage. If you want a fair game play experience you wont find it here; however if you are looking for tons of cheaters denying their existence you have come to the right place.

[33333333]

Dose of reality eredeti hozzászólása:

It is invasive and it does next to nothing to prevent cheaters from cheating. The games anti cheat relies almost entirely on manual review of replay footage. If you want a fair game play experience you wont find it here; however if you are looking for tons of cheaters denying their existence you have come to the right place.

there are cheaters. just not that many

[Ragman006]

33333333 eredeti hozzászólása:

Dose of reality eredeti hozzászólása:

It is invasive and it does next to nothing to prevent cheaters from cheating. The games anti cheat relies almost entirely on manual review of replay footage. If you want a fair game play experience you wont find it here; however if you are looking for tons of cheaters denying their existence you have come to the right place.

there are cheaters. just not that many

the weekly ban list proves you wrong yet again.

[Mnky]

There is an insane amount of cheaters in this game. Most get 1 day temp ban after hundreds of reports, the rest are doing as they want. no-recoil, aimbot, esp/radar is common. Right now cheaters are teleporting, going underground and shooting you without you seeing them etc. They are 100% free to do as they please.

[Urbanmojo]

The anti-cheat is obviously doing its thing if the weekly ban list numbers are correct and not falsified. Perhaps fully permanent hardware/ip bans would be better in that case.
However, the anti-cheat systems always seem to be one or two steps behind the latest cheats.

[Faaipster]

judging my the games ive played, there doesnt seem to be any anti cheat in this game.

[Pille]

The fight against the cheat devs is lost. We can only try to have fun and try not to put to much effort into the game. Even if only 5 to 10 % ppl are cheating, we can encounter between 5-10 ppl in one round with an active cheat. It sucks....but the fight is lost and the devs can do ♥♥♥♥ about it.
And the devs are clearly not capable to improv the game. Every update, we got new problems, new desync, new fps drop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. So in the end, just have fun, report everyone, just for the purpose to annoy the devs.

[Mike Tuah]

Ragman006 eredeti hozzászólása:

33333333 eredeti hozzászólása:

there are cheaters. just not that many

the weekly ban list proves you wrong yet again.

dont offend 333333 or they'll report you and have you banned for a week too

[Ragman006]

Urbanmojo eredeti hozzászólása:

The anti-cheat is obviously doing its thing if the weekly ban list numbers are correct and not falsified. Perhaps fully permanent hardware/ip bans would be better in that case.
However, the anti-cheat systems always seem to be one or two steps behind the latest cheats.

its possible but the anticheat isnt getting rid of the cheaters. its the report system. so many blatant hackers temp banned numerous times before they finally if ever get a ban. i'd be surprised if the anticheat is catching 2-3% of the hackers on banned list.

[Lega]

The accounts on that list are permanent banned, not just 2-3% of them.

Jonnbay eredeti hozzászólása:

I remember while back there being a controversy about pubg anticheat software (xhunter or wellbia?). The anticheat would keep running even after you close the program and would not uninstall from your system even after you deleted the game. You had to take extra steps to remove and even edit registry. A lot of people were angry.

Is this still the case? Or was it fixed?

Some points weren't even true back then because once you close the game all services are closed.

There may be some dead drivers left after you deinstalled PUBG but they don't do anything and if you care, just remove them but it doesn't hurt if you leave them

Every big shooter on the market has such a kernel level anti-cheat today because without they don't need to fight.

It would be pointless and the fight is already hard enough.

[Ragman006]

Lega eredeti hozzászólása:

The accounts on that list are permanent banned, not just 2-3% of them.
.

What are you talking about?? Please read the post properly before making a silly comment.

[Lega]

Maybe I misunderstood something there my bad, if.

Anti-cheat is anti-cheat regardless how they banned them and bans based on reports can't be the majority because it's impossible to catch so many cheaters manually.

Only if cheats weren't made properly they will be auto detect or the devs bought the cheat and prepared the system to detect one specific driver, code etc. Even if they change the game and catch many cheaters at once the update of the cheats won't take long.

Such ban events don't happen so often because such changes needs a lot of work.

In fact.

Most of the bans get applied by humans because auto systems needs to have data to detect stuff.

Either by checking temp banned players and find evidence or by hunting down the cheater market, buying the cheats, get the code and bust them.

Anti-cheat systems that detect cheats automatically most of the time are a myth.

Detecting cheating behavior automatically is possible but it only works if cheaters do it obvious and it also requires a next level anti-cheat most games can't implement for their current game.

Even then, it can't detect closet cheating so its get useless quickly because cheaters adapt to it.

[Ragman006]

Lega eredeti hozzászólása:

Maybe I misunderstood something there my bad, if.

Anti-cheat is anti-cheat regardless how they banned them and bans based on reports can't be the majority because it's impossible to catch so many cheaters manually.

Most of the bans get applied by humans because auto systems needs to have data to detect stuff.

Anti-cheat systems that detect cheats automatically most of the time are a myth.

Im not sure what your trying to say but its as confusing as hell. Anticheat is the majority of bans even though most bans are done manually??

[Too Fast For Polizia]

The reason there are cheaters may be that devs get a share of the money from cheat-sellers. There are few reasons that justify some one selling cheat unbothered and unpunished drivin users away from a product

[femboy cumstain]

Jonnbay eredeti hozzászólása:

I remember while back there being a controversy about pubg anticheat software (xhunter or wellbia?). The anticheat would keep running even after you close the program and would not uninstall from your system even after you deleted the game. You had to take extra steps to remove and even edit registry. A lot of people were angry.

Is this still the case? Or was it fixed?

The only good anti-cheat is an invasive anti-cheat.

Reason: Private cheats are often initialized before boot, so the only way to detect them is with anti-cheat on ring0.

As a software programmer, knowing the security risks, I would still rather have an invasive anti-cheat than not have one and have an exponentially greater likelihood of running into undetectable cheaters.

Too Fast For Polizia eredeti hozzászólása:

The reason there are cheaters may be that devs get a share of the money from cheat-sellers. There are few reasons that justify some one selling cheat unbothered and unpunished drivin users away from a product

Also, no. The programmers on the dev team are definitely not working with cheat developers. Programmers who choose to be game programmers are doing so because they have a passion for it, not for the pay cheque. If they wanted money, they'd take any non-game programming job, and make 6 figures easy.

And when someone pours their passion into something, the last thing they're going to ever do is try to pollute that. I'm confident they're as frustrated that no one in the entire world has managed to come up with a solution that actually wins in the war against cheaters as anyone else is.

No game company wants cheaters in their game. The majority of cheaters use unlocker tools, so they aren't paying for the skins/cosmetics/etc. that they have on their characters. And, legit players being killed by cheaters drives legit players away, and the legit players are the money spenders.

Cheaters drive paying customers away. Cheaters are bad for business. The amount of money cheat developers make is nothing compared to the billions that PUBG CORP brings in from cosmetics per year. And it would be way, way higher if there were way, way less cheaters.

Think with your logical brain.