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Toxicwire† 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 8:05
How bad is the cheating really?
Looking to maybe get back in the game.
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Taiga 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 8:09 
Since I start playing again I never met a cheater. Sorry but I cant understand the complaining.
Ziffa 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 8:22 
Just look at the official ban reports that they put out each week. Since the end of September, they banned EACH WEEK between 86.000 and 140.000 accounts. That's at least half a million accounts together. In most games that we play, there are cheaters. On rare occasions they get removed from the game during the round, usually they just headshot you with a 4x scope on an Ace or something ridiculous like that.

But of course, you just need to get good, there are no cheaters, and Krafton are simply lying about the amount of banned accounts (and of course the smart cheaters ones don't get detected anyway)
最后由 Ziffa 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 8:23
Pipo 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 9:19 
Last night played 10 games (ranked), in all of 10 we killed by cheaters. Last 7 days is unplayble on Europe servers.
Ybrva 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 9:23 
引用自 Taiga
Since I start playing again I never met a cheater. Sorry but I cant understand the complaining.
Just got killed a few minutes ago by a player who was in the lobby wackyjacky101 played 3 days ago, where he reported 6 asian players for cheating. This player who killed me is also in the european server (wackyjacky101 was playing solo ranked in asian server). So after dying I spectated him. He won the chicken dinner. He killed 16 players. Only got damaged 3 times. His k/d ratio is not that high as that blatant cheater who had a k/d of 23 who I reported few weeks ago for wall hacking and never got nor even a temporal ban. Still this player who killed me has killed in the last four games... 12, 5, 14, 16. Two chicken dinners of 4, others two games 4 and 2 position. Basically this player alone is capable of obliterating almost 20% of the players... And as a plus... the name of this player is the name of a common cheat... I would say this is not a fun game anymore at least... Oh, and this was in solo normal tpp. PostData: Even though it was in normal mode there were only 1-5 bots of which he killed in two matches 1-4 only. In the last one he killed no bots, there were 0. And when he plays duo he kills less, he plays much better in solo.

Not trying to discourage people to play pubg, I am still playing it but... I am starting to get tired...
最后由 Ybrva 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 9:40
AughtNisNaughtNoughtBēonAught 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 10:54 
引用自 Pipo
Last night played 10 games (ranked), in all of 10 we killed by cheaters. Last 7 days is unplayble on Europe servers.
:steamthumbsup: liars/cheaters will twist reality to suit their agenda. They will explain their reality as not being different because it's chock full of distortions but because simple observations like your own experience here is a "skill issue."

Steam moderates discussions to suit their business interests but they don't moderate the accounts that are here working on behalf of special $$$ interests, whether it's 'investment' they foolishly wasted, payment for spam, or protecting gross profit.
最后由 AughtNisNaughtNoughtBēonAught 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 11:42
Sleepysteve 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 11:14 
引用自 Halfmystic
引用自 Starwight/ttv
Everyone crying about cheaters every match just can't cope that they are bad, period, end all.

Brain dead take. Every FPS has cheaters, especially free to play ones.

Not brain dead. These people are always cheaters, period, end all. Only reason to try and deny what is so obvious to honest people is because A. You make money off it or B. you cheat and dont want people to be aware.
Sphinxmunkey 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 11:39 
Cheets everywhere, in every fps, very very badly since 2019 when all dev companies decided to join them or ignore the problem and public cheets that take 1 minute to goog and less than 20 for a month of feeling like you're decent at a game you sugg at.

Most people are decent but final circle in every other game I see some sus stuff. Like the guy on the front page said, the 3 casual games are chill, the rest is 40/60 you will or won't encounter someone doing something questionable.

The sure fire report is when he's ads 200m away before someone runs out of cover with no indication anyone was there. I spectate and see that all the time. A lot of them try to hide it when people watch so they play games, but end the end they always show it, idk why, none of the devs in any online fps even care anymore.

Competitive online gaming is a thing of the distant past.

In fortnite there's a lobby literally named "wallhack 1v1s" and hosts over 1400 players at any given time. In diamond+ rank it's hard to find a game without at least 1 obvious cheet. Land in a tree center map and wait for him to come cut it down and kill you lol it's a fun game to play just to see what's up.

As far as cod they've unofficially renamed the game to Cheetz O Dukey, since you can easily tell there are, at least 1, if not multiple on both teams in every single lobby, they just haven't updated the game cover yet :steammocking: Played every cod that ever came out religiously before 2019. Not anymore. Also the devs deciding to nerf footsteps and "give away" sounds in all game modes really killed the ability to counter the cheeters. Huge bunch of incompotent <76iq individuals at activision blizzard. Wouldn't trust them to tie their own shoes, I believe velcro shoes and short bus to work is their company policy.

Battlefield is actually decent, mostly because there are 64 player maps and it's hard to gain much advantage in that and stay under the radar. The only FPS (aside from a few "casual" games of pubg) that I've had fun in lately.

Apex is pretty good also, not a lot of blatant cheaters but you occasionally encounter one who gets a funny advantage, but it's a bit rarer like 1 in 8 games.

Note: if your kd is .01-1.5, yes, you're probably right, you've potentially never encountered a cheater. But, if you play ranked at 2.0+kdr in these games, you've definitely and most assuredly encountered losers who actually think cheating makes them good at gaming because they can get a few kills or wins over people who don't cheat. Regardless of if they kill you or not, cheating is cheating no matter what butterfingers is on the other side of it.

It is what it is, until devs and gamers come together and prohibit cheating or boycott games that don't, it'll keep happening, yes I know it's always been there hidden in cheeter forums, but since mid 2019 it became publicly available and absolutely ruined the gaming experience for the majority. It's one thing for people to hunt them out in coder forums, it's another for a 9 year old to take moms credit card and drop $12 {last I goog'd it out of curiosity for pubg} and start smoking veterans with ease.

As someone else said, online fps gaming is a dying genre. With all of the low morals cheaters who don't care about ruining games for others and distrust in the general gaming population about everyone who kills them now, and lets not forget the complete lack of a response other than "we're doing what we can" from the game devs, who by all accounts could be the ones selling both sides, online fps in the classical competitive fun to play sense won't be around much longer. Or has already died imo.

So, in conclusion, Someone create an online fps where EVERYONE in the game has wallhacks, make it fun, flat out ip ban aimbotters, lets get cracking.
Sphinxmunkey 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 11:43 
The funniest thing I've seen lately is the one guy who scopes someone 200m away before they run out of cover, guy he scoped on jumped behind a rock and turned right to him also with no indication he was there (except being told by his extra sensory add on) and killed him. Cheeter vs cheeter, very entertaining to watch. Reminds me of spy v spy cartoons back in the day.
Sphinxmunkey 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 11:46 
OH and as far as "spend money on" laughably no, no fps out, no fps coming out, no fps ever again, until this problem is addressed and companies start caring about gamers, will I ever PAY to play a game that has public cheats out for it. A quick search on goog will show you just how bad the problem is, these companies have lists of games 50+ long, every fps you can name is on it. They all get $0 from me for allowing it. Funny how it wasn't a thing before 2019 and every company sued or patched it out when it dropped, and now, lolfugutogamersfromalldevs. So no.

End rant.
AughtNisNaughtNoughtBēonAught 2023 年 11 月 16 日 上午 11:59 
You can have far more functionality with player based reporting systems, but it comes at an opportunity cost of reducing a developer's undesirable player base, which equates to a loss of revenue if it's based on in-game purchases which is killing the fps industry and ushering in freemium hordes of burn accounts.

Companies like Valve, Tencents, Krafton have all made billions off of in-game purchase skin scams over the old business model of selling expansions at a fixed price. Expansion business model with higher server side operating costs and overhead of unifying and maintaining a healthier cheater-free community, requires 24/7 actively permanently removing cheaters identified after purchase. These companies don't want that, they want your money instead and let you deal with the cheating by showing you all their "best efforts.":steammocking:

Leniency for profit explains the mess this industry is in: GREED vs FAIR GAME PLAY. Mandate VAC on all games on entire platform would alleviate a lot of the insanity we put up with re: alternate/burn accounts. A VAC ban should exclude that account from all games and discussions of the same genre. 2 VAC bans of any game should shut it down permanently.

Easy to set an extremely skeptical VAC threshold for accounts only using freemium games for DLC bribery to turn a blind eye to their cheating. But again, making fair game play as fair as possible is at odds with their DLC revenue model.

The alternative that we see companies like krapton/nocents doing for several years is the same problem we have in pubg now, but on a larger scale if VAC was more effectively mandated across all games: active, paying accounts that use cheats in games is an extremely tempting pitfall for 'selective enforcement' of platform, preying on naivety of good faith and universal fair game play.

steam/krapton/nocents marketing accounts go as far as to project they're losing money from cheating by either their own freemium gamble they corruptly chose a couple years back or to shift focus on scapegoating cheaters which is far easier than defending their two faced, double dealing with selling in-game content for a blind eye to cheating accounts.
Caturix 2023 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:42 
There actually are a lot more now. Usually I´ve seen one every then and now, but at the moment you´ll meet some every day. Not every game, but still often.
Starwight/ttv 2023 年 11 月 16 日 下午 4:21 
引用自 Halfmystic
引用自 Starwight/ttv
Everyone crying about cheaters every match just can't cope that they are bad, period, end all.

Brain dead take. Every FPS has cheaters, especially free to play ones.

Not every game. And if you think every single game you're running into a cheater, you can't cope with the fact some 12 year old on his moms couch kicked your ass.

Cope.
Starwight/ttv 2023 年 11 月 16 日 下午 4:22 
引用自 Sleepysteve
引用自 Halfmystic

Brain dead take. Every FPS has cheaters, especially free to play ones.

Not brain dead. These people are always cheaters, period, end all. Only reason to try and deny what is so obvious to honest people is because A. You make money off it or B. you cheat and dont want people to be aware.

Lmfao, and yet I don't have a single game ban. Hmmmmm.
引用自 Starwight/ttv
引用自 Sleepysteve

These people are always cheaters, period, end all. Only reason to try and deny what is so obvious to honest people is because A. You make money off it or B. you cheat and dont want people to be aware.

Lmfao, and yet I don't have a single game ban. Hmmmmm.
appeal to ignorance hiding behind a corrupt freemium developer willing to do business with anyone that buys their in-game content. Thank you for demonstrating this.
Shady Knights 2023 年 11 月 16 日 下午 8:22 
引用自 Starwight/ttv
引用自 Sleepysteve

Not brain dead. These people are always cheaters, period, end all. Only reason to try and deny what is so obvious to honest people is because A. You make money off it or B. you cheat and dont want people to be aware.

Lmfao, and yet I don't have a single game ban. Hmmmmm.

"91.8 hrs on record (50.6 hrs at review time)" according to your review from 2017.

That means between 2017 and now, you've stacked on another 41.2 hours of time with PUBG open on your desktop.

It hardly qualifies you for anything in this game, let alone commenting on others skill levels on here.
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