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hanxe 25 DIC 2020 a las 11:25 a. m.
idiot devs don't let us choose maps
♥♥♥♥ miramar
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Lithova 17 ENE 2021 a las 11:21 p. m. 
However some players are reporting that they are now receiving bans or suspensions due to low reputation because they chose to leave a map prior to count timer (though that's up for debate). So whats the goal here now? Punish players for leaving a map they don't want to play with possible suspension / bans? At least remove the deduction to rep before the count timer begins or allow players map selection.
Lega 18 ENE 2021 a las 4:22 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Lithova:
However some players are reporting that they are now receiving bans or suspensions due to low reputation because they chose to leave a map prior to count timer (though that's up for debate). So whats the goal here now? Punish players for leaving a map they don't want to play with possible suspension / bans? At least remove the deduction to rep before the count timer begins or allow players map selection.

As far as I know, nobody will get any punishment.

For example, if you don't play with randoms your reputation doesn't even matter
because you know all your friends. It's just a number without any meaning.
Lega 18 ENE 2021 a las 5:05 a. m. 
@Jormund

It doesn't matter what the community wants when it comes to the point to keep the game running and healthy. That is the reason why not any game did listen, not even once like in PUBG.

PUBG did use a different way for 3 year but they also told us in 2018, "We can give you guys the selection now but we have to remove it in future again", and they also told us why and so on. If you see the stats how many player each region has, you don't start to ask why.

So it's not like they never did listen or they don't want. The reason to do so is very solid.

1.5% of all players just for EU, clearly shows we don't have enough player anymore for the selection. They also can't remove maps or modes without disappointing more people, therefore, no map selection is the only way.

The reputation is often coming from people like you who won't understand why things cannot be solved or handled as they wish.
Última edición por Lega; 18 ENE 2021 a las 5:06 a. m.
Lega 18 ENE 2021 a las 6:42 a. m. 
I don't get it.

I don't defend the game here, I defend the reason why games won't use map selection,
But since you don't even know how big the efforts against the cheaters are, I shouldn't be surprised how narrow minded you think.

To say they don't ban cheaters is the understatment of the century.
PUBG banned more cheaters in 4 years as the whole system of Vac with 100 games in 15 years together. Just to show you how many they did and do. You don't see a difference because they can't stop them to be in the game after. That is the real problem and not to ban them. There is no useful solution for it today, which is the reason why all games still have a massive cheating problem.

Each map has his fan base, from Sanhok down to Miramar and even Haven.
It's a huge mistake of people to believe, "Most people don't like what I don't like either."

I did read so often, "small maps can be deleted", but the reality is, those maps were played most.

I don't know why you think no map selection doesn't help to keep the game running
but you're wrong. If they use selection in NA, most games would be filled up to 80% with bots and nobody would like to play it there. Most old players would leave because matches would be super boring. I thought to show how other games use it should be enough to see how big the reason is, but some people won't see anything.

To blame the only game who ever offered the selection for 3 years as long it was possible is just wrong and super unfair. They did listen and now they also can't support anymore like they told us in 2018. But instead to see what going on, people still jump through all plattforms to still speak bad about them....
Última edición por Lega; 18 ENE 2021 a las 6:45 a. m.
-|Nur|- 18 ENE 2021 a las 7:56 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Jormund:

So in your opinion, the solution is to do what others are doing when clearly it is not what the community wants?

"The community" consists of selfish individuals who can't see beyond their own noses and believe that whatever they happen to like is also good for the health of the game. The developers need to navigate through these conflicting preferences and come to a solution that best maintains the game's health, and while that solution may not be what you in particular like, it doesn't make it wrong.

Surely you don't think they removed the map selection feature out of spite? It doesn't take a mathematician to do the math. If they still allowed the selection of both map and mode, there'd be 30+ queues. The game needs close to a hundred players to start a match. Meanwhile, the game's population is not much higher than 10% of its peak popularity.
Lega 18 ENE 2021 a las 9:39 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Jormund:
False, there are many games that are handling this their own way. For instance, look at how CS:GO is handling it.t

CSGO is still one of the most hacked games of all and you claim they did handle it better?
It's just wrong. Vac net is pretty decent but the system of PUBG too.

Trustfactor is the only difference but it also never really worked as I would expect it.
It doesn't mean it does not work but it cannot be used in PUBG anyway.

PUBG has too many player on one server to support anything like that.
5vs5 is the only setting for such features and only in big games.

Publicado originalmente por Jormund:
It clearly is a huge problem and both the topics here and reviews are showing it, so it is starting to seem that it's not really about the community wants and needs, but rather their own greed.

You wrote it by your self, "you don't really have a clue about it", but you are sure it's their own greed. Nothing of both topics are based on greed, not even close, and just because many people constantly claim wrong things, doesn't mean it has any value to name.

You did it by your self. "They do nothing", it could be more wrong.

You still refuse to see how long we got what we wanted and PUBG was the only game of all who did offer it. You blame them instead of to see we can't get all things all the time. And as long we get something as long as they can offer it, we never should complain.

You think certain maps aren't played by the community but that is incorrect.
As I said, each map has his fanbase. In my case and my squad, Miramar, Many would claim it's a bad map but still our favorite one. Even Chocco Taco wrote PUBG is basically Miramar and Erangle. It's also not really correct too but it shows how many people like it.

So how to deal with the problem to not make one site of the community angry because they delete their map? Exactly, a compromise like no map selection so we all can still play our maps. But that isn't the main reason. Most regions doesn't even support any selection due to the fact of lack of players. No matter which map they delete they can't use it there anymore. Even many modes like ranked doesn't work.

EU is the only region, besided the 2 biggest KAKAO and AS, which could get a setting like mini and Battle Royal. KAKAO and AS still can use map selection because they still have hundreds of thousands of player.
Última edición por Lega; 18 ENE 2021 a las 9:47 a. m.
Mörkö 18 ENE 2021 a las 9:47 a. m. 
The "devs" dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about your gaming experience . They just want your money and do absolutely nothing about the thousands of cheaters . They are probably just laughing while sucking ♥♥♥♥♥
Lega 18 ENE 2021 a las 9:52 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Mörkö:
The "devs" dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about your gaming experience . They just want your money and do absolutely nothing about the thousands of cheaters . They are probably just laughing while sucking ♥♥♥♥♥

Exactly claims like that.
No value because absolutely not true and based on feelings instead of facts.
-|Nur|- 18 ENE 2021 a las 10:16 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Jormund:

Never did I or the people I play with have a problem to find games in EU for any of the maps. In some occassions, we might see a bot here and there.

The only reason I came back to this clunky, unresponsive pos game is because my friends asked me to, and yet it seems that 80% of players in Squads are bots. So, current player numbers are clearly a major problem.

In the long run, this is not really sustainable and there are much better ways of going about this. For instance, pick between the big and small maps, or like including potential wait time for each map (which CS:GO has).

CSGO has a horrendous system, as people only play maps like Dust 2, Cache and Mirage. For others you wait 10 minutes until it finds a match, then one or two fails to accept it anyway, and you're right back in the queue.
MOREOVER, CSGO has not only ten times the playerbase that PUBG has, but it takes only 10 players to start a match. So, even if you actually like the system CSGO has, that doesn't mean it'd work in PUBG.

So, now that they introduced the reputation system, it made matters even worse for those who might care about it, as they now have to play maps they dislike without having the ability to disconnect and connect repeatedly.

Good. Those selfish players who disconnect when they get a map they don't like are a problem and they should get long abandon penalties to lessen the incentive to abandon matches. This is a multiplayer game; the world cannot revolve around your petty preferences.

Neither does it take one to see that this is blatantly just a way to squeeze out as much money as possible, while the game has some steam left. Don't you think the cheater problem should be their top priority? There have been no extreme measures to this, yet it remains as one of the biggest issues.

Completely unrelated. To my understanding cheating is nowhere near the problem it used to be, as the Chinese seem to stick to their own region and because of the drop in popularity the items aren't worth what they used to be. The game was far more popular when hacking was rife anyway, so it's not like that stopped people from playing.

You might want to check out Steam Charts. The population has been slowly going down. Even during Winter Sale there was next to no bump in population. Not surprising, since clearly people like myself are not the minority here, as the game has fantastic reviews. :^)

Huh? Didn't I just say exactly that?
-|Nur|- 18 ENE 2021 a las 10:20 a. m. 
Oh, still have to comment on this hilarity:

Publicado originalmente por Jormund:
False, there are many games that are handling this their own way. For instance, look at how CS:GO is handling it. I am not an expert in this by any stretch, but cheating on PUBG is pretty easy since there are no additional mesaures you need to take other than buying the game on a new account.

CSGO doesn't even have Kernel-level anti-cheat, which is why you can find free cheats on the Internet. They also have to rely on community policing (Overwatch) because their anti-cheat sucks so bad.
Roadwarrior62 18 ENE 2021 a las 11:22 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Lega:
The question, why certain maps are more often for us available as others?
Because of people who constantly leave to get what they want instead of to deal with it.

What they don't know is, they increase the problem about, "to get over and over the same maps".

The case is also very subjective because we humans always remember the bad times more than the good ones. Look, I would say I get also don't what I want but if I check my matches
I can see a good balance of all maps. Certain maps more as others but it's not like I get the same maps over and over again. Check your matches for your self and maybe you can also show me how it is on your end. :)

https://pubglookup.com

My favorite map, Miramar, is super rare for me, just say.

https://gyazo.com/452484d8f4a8a3425b814feadcb6bdbc

The devs probably already try to balance but people who leave the server are a real problem for that.
Who is the game for ???? The players or tbe devs?? Listen to yourself here, choosing maps works in a plethora of other games, there is absolutely no validity to your argument. You are completely one sided and your comment "deal with it" is absurd!!! I purchased the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing ! Is this a bunch of self serving BS or is this catering to the devs and the conglomerate they support?
Lega 18 ENE 2021 a las 11:27 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Roadwarrior62:
Publicado originalmente por Lega:
The question, why certain maps are more often for us available as others?
Because of people who constantly leave to get what they want instead of to deal with it.

What they don't know is, they increase the problem about, "to get over and over the same maps".

The case is also very subjective because we humans always remember the bad times more than the good ones. Look, I would say I get also don't what I want but if I check my matches
I can see a good balance of all maps. Certain maps more as others but it's not like I get the same maps over and over again. Check your matches for your self and maybe you can also show me how it is on your end. :)

https://pubglookup.com

My favorite map, Miramar, is super rare for me, just say.

https://gyazo.com/452484d8f4a8a3425b814feadcb6bdbc

The devs probably already try to balance but people who leave the server are a real problem for that.
Who is the game for ???? The players or tbe devs?? Listen to yourself here, choosing maps works in a plethora of other games, there is absolutely no validity to your argument. You are completely one sided and your comment "deal with it" is absurd!!! I purchased the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing ! Is this a bunch of self serving BS or is this catering to the devs and the conglomerate they support?

You are wrong, sry.

I spoke about Battle Royal games only not about all shooters.
There is no other BR who offer map selection. I wrote and proved it many times here.
Lithova 18 ENE 2021 a las 11:59 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Lega:
Publicado originalmente por Lithova:
However some players are reporting that they are now receiving bans or suspensions due to low reputation because they chose to leave a map prior to count timer (though that's up for debate). So whats the goal here now? Punish players for leaving a map they don't want to play with possible suspension / bans? At least remove the deduction to rep before the count timer begins or allow players map selection.

As far as I know, nobody will get any punishment.

For example, if you don't play with randoms your reputation doesn't even matter
because you know all your friends. It's just a number without any meaning.

Yea but thats as far as you know, I'm saying some people are reporting (pubg reddit) they've received suspensions and/or permanent bans to their accounts because the reputation system. Again I'm not saying this is true but a trend is occurring with some reports amongst players. Personally I don't care about reputation, and if players are caught for cheating or something nefarious then by all ban away etc... but I take issue with players receiving bans / suspensions simply because they chose not to play a particular map..which appears to affect your reputation and thus is the cause of these suspensions/ bans as reported by some players. Its an alarming issue if its true and something that needs to be addressed now.
Roadwarrior62 18 ENE 2021 a las 12:06 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Lega:
Publicado originalmente por  Crim :

Well, they're going to have to make a decision to do something.

The ratings for this game are only getting worse over time, and it seems it's for good reason.

Not any Battle Royal has a map selection so there is no pressure to do so.
Just because people want something doesn't mean they can get it all the time, no matter what they gonna write later.

Lol! Yeah of course ! Why cater to the people that purchase the game 😂
Lega 18 ENE 2021 a las 12:08 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Lithova:
Publicado originalmente por Lega:

As far as I know, nobody will get any punishment.

For example, if you don't play with randoms your reputation doesn't even matter
because you know all your friends. It's just a number without any meaning.

Yea but thats as far as you know, I'm saying some people are reporting (pubg reddit) they've received suspensions and/or permanent bans to their accounts because the reputation system. Again I'm not saying this is true but a trend is occurring with some reports amongst players. Personally I don't care about reputation, and if players are caught for cheating or something nefarious then by all ban away etc... but I take issue with players receiving bans / suspensions simply because they chose not to play a particular map..which appears to affect your reputation and thus is the cause of these suspensions/ bans as reported by some players. Its an alarming issue if its true and something that needs to be addressed now.

Sry but people who report they got falsly banned aren't really a useful source.
We have to wait for real news. We had and have many people like that every day and also long time before we had that system.

Doesn't mean anything.
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