Shroud Might Not Be Who Everyone Thinks He Is...

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Shroud, who everyone seems to love and idolize does not look very legitimate or trustworthy and comes off as very suspicious when you look through all of the footage that has been compiled by people on YouTube of him snapping onto enemy's behind walls and often friendly firing his own team mates while snapping onto targets who are either driving in cars or behind walls, which is very unnatural.


The vast majority of people who have been pointing these things out have been discredited due to people who keep saying the 3 main arguments that defend Shroud;

1) "Oh, well he used to play CS:GO Competitive and has 1000's of hours on FPS'S"

Yea in CSGO… I'm talking about PUBG though, not CSGO. Just because you're a pro Nascar driver, doesn't mean you're a pro Formula Racer. Same goes for shooters. Is he extremely good at PUBG due to being great at CSGO? Sure. But then why doesn't he enter any tournaments? Why are there so many fishy situations with him? Why are there so many questionable moments? Why does he refuse to stream anything other than full screen? With all these allegations against him about hacking, I'd think joining even 1 tournament to prove he is that good in PUBG just to shut up all the people accusing him if anything.. But he doesn't. That is just another mark that raises suspicions. (Since you don't use personal computers, so no chance he could cheat). He does nothing to prove anything. Even 1 stream of a camera on his keyboard and mouse would prove it. Yet he won't even do that simple gesture of proof... Why? You'd think if you had nothing to hide you'd have no problem proving you are as good as you are. Yet he doesn't. There have been many amazing gamers who have been accused of cheating, and they did one of many things to prove they are legit... It's only cheaters that I see ignore the accusations, and or do nothing to prove it, because they can't. Just yet another of many questionable marks on shroud.

I UNDERSTAND THAT HE HAS PREVIOUS FPS EXPERIENCE AND CAN BE GOOD AT FPS'S. That being said, HE STILL TOGGLES ON HIS AIMBOT ON AN OFF SOMETIMES TO KEEP VIEWER RETENTION and doesn't get banned for this specific act due to him bringing in publicity for the game. It's called an act, he switches it on and off it different situations and plays it off as the game being weird each time that he realizes he messed up on stream. I can go on all day about this and can keep showing you various other clips that make absolutely no sense with him flicking on to people behind walls and "accidentally" friendly firing people due to a bug in the aimlock, but again you will refuse to believe any of it.

2) "Oh, you're just mad cuz bad, you're just jealous of him because he's better."

And to that I say, I'd be perfectly fine if someone was this good… But there are too many red flags, and questionable situations. Then you gotta ask yourself, why doesn't he ever join any type of actual competitive tournaments? You'd think it'd be a fresh cool difference now and again. Someone THAT good, able to perfectly snap onto heads in .05 seconds should be DOMINATING in tournaments, yet he seems to be scared to go in.. Just makes you question.. 1 of many things.

3) "Oh, you must be some conspiracy theorist who thinks that ALL streamers/pro gamers are using hacks/aimlock"

Don't try to use your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ generalization fallacy on this argument, no one said EVERY streamer and or pro player is hacking. Ninja, Dr. Disrespect, JoshOG, TSM_Viss, etc. are all great examples of people who are insanely good that aren’t hacking and not even a hint of questionable ♥♥♥♥. There is nothing to suggest or hint that they do. Shroud is a completely different story though. If all of these other pro gamers, streamers were using aimbot or hacking why aren’t there any videos for them doing questionable ♥♥♥♥ but there is a ton for Shroud? What it’s just a coincidence?

4) “If Shroud is a cheater, why hasn’t he got banned yet then!?

THE DEVS ARE NOT GOING TO BAN THE GUY BOTH BECAUSE HE GIVES THE GAME FREE PUBLICITY WITH HIS TWITCH VIEWS AND ALSO BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE BOUGHT PUBG DUE TO HIS STREAM. On top of that, he is too big of a name now for them to ban. Can you imagine how many fanboys would stop playing this game if they made it public? Bluehole are completely aware of his antics but if they ban him it will have serious repercussions on the player base and also will be quite a loud statement about what really goes on in this game. That being said, Bluehole is not going to ban one of their biggest cash cows and the person that is bringing light to their game the most. This is clearly evident by the fact that Shroud does get special treatment from Pubg Corp. He was even invited to their HQ n gave his opinions on the game. Some have even reported that some of the changes that happened in the big update last week were because of Shroud. Like lvl 3 helmet being crate only. Apparently he didn’t like or saw to many at the end of the game all having lvl 3 helmets. Bottom line, however, is that it would hurt Bluehole’s business too much to ban the guy, thus they have no reason to do so even if they know that he is blatantly cheating.


A few videos for reference (You can look up more if you want, there are tons. I'm not going to link you every video."

1) AT 0:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d28yaR61VYg
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4RvPNT6ySE
3) AT 0:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOCe3wPAKGU&t=2s
4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSxPTnfPirI
5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmmns5QLgm8
6)
AT 4:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbtnOVhGV68
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LASTLY;
Whether he's cheating or not is up for debate, however from all of the proof shown recently it is very likely that he does. All I know is if you're smart you can hide the fact you're cheating extremely well. You can toggle those hacks on and off. His excuse of how his "snap" isn't cheating could be completely legit. Or it could be that he simply presses a button to toggle the snap then turns it off, then readjusts the tiny bit at the end, which would completely cover up the fact he used a cheat. There are MANY videos of shrouds replays slowed down that shows extremely sketchy situations, like him "snapping" to an enemy that goes behind a wall and he starts shooting into a completely different building.. Someone who is supposedly THIS good, simply wouldn't do stupid ♥♥♥♥ like that unless he's relying on some third-party program. But who am I to say. There's a lot of sketchy ♥♥♥♥, but he hides it well.

[Cracken]

Are your panties all tangled up because shroud never signed your wall? lmao

[Deadly Chicken XoP']

MLGonthorian a écrit :

Deadly Chicken XoP' a écrit :

You have replied to a lot of short replies in this thread, but you haven't looked atmine and I went over each point you said ... even reviewed your "video evidence"

care to explain why you think that first clip you posted is cheating ? when shroud DOESNT KILL THE GUY just you and the dumb assed youtuber DIDNT REALISE THAT CHAD KILLED THAT GUY AND THATS WHY SHROUHD GOT A NOTIFICATION THAT THE GUY HE DOWNED EARLIER IS DEAD.

I see where your confusion is. I don't understand where you saw anyone claiming that he "killed" the person behind the fence. People were pointing out that he was snapping onto and shooting at a person that was not visible behind a fence. The argument that "Oh well there was a small little crack you can see the person through." Is not valid because you could only see movement through the fence AFTER he started shooting. You mean to tell me he just randomly started shooting at the same spot of an almost complete solid part of a fence and there just happened to be a person behind there? Also, why are you not finding anything to say about the rest of the videos that are linked? If you truly want more evidence beyond the 4 videos that I have posted, look it up yourself, although I highly doubt you will because you'll just disregard them and find some excuse to defend Shroud doing these suspicious activities.

its a youtube video at super low FPS that has been slowed down really poorly skipping a bunch iof frames that would have been there in game. the fact that you don't have the imagination to reason out this is testament to your mindset.

I have already spoken about each o the other videos in this thread in detail.

the one where he uses the m249. Ther eis no aimbot in history that will select a target at 180 degrees from you over one that is 15 degrees left or right. the flick, the accuracy, the fact that he reaslises his mistake... hell even if it were an aimbot how does he reaslise so fast. have you never been surprised by a team mate ( ever had a team mate ? ) and not realised you wre shooting a friendly until AFTER it says you knocked then with friendly fuire in big red letters .. well he noticed immediately and stopped.
watch some of his new videos posted with the eye tracker installed. it may actually open your eyes a bit when you realise just how quickly he can scan for targets.

Hell just watch him clearing the prison building in Yasnaya, flicking accurately at immense speed between this empty window to that empty window to that empty window .. all with pin point accuracy to land just on the edge of the window frame. Aimbots don't lock onto empty windows ... hell just watch him playing that webgame where a dot appears for a split second and he can click it with his mouse pointer with ridiculous accuracy and speed. does he have a special hacks that work on this random web game also ? lol

DrDisrespects apparent "LIVE reaction, is not live, its just the Docs character stirring the pot, how is it live when he has a slow zooms. Also someone who is not a pro, was never a pro having a reaction is the same as your post, its not evidence its just one person with an opinion.

and the last one is a single 1 tap .... why is it even here ? hasn't everyone done shots like that ? I even posted me doing 3 x 1 taps in quick succession to prove that even a potato like me can do it.

[MonkehMaster]

oh.... look.....

its another post about shround and mentally challenged kids claiming he cheats, LMAO....

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Deadly Chicken XoP' a écrit :

MLGonthorian a écrit :

I see where your confusion is. I don't understand where you saw anyone claiming that he "killed" the person behind the fence. People were pointing out that he was snapping onto and shooting at a person that was not visible behind a fence. The argument that "Oh well there was a small little crack you can see the person through." Is not valid because you could only see movement through the fence AFTER he started shooting. You mean to tell me he just randomly started shooting at the same spot of an almost complete solid part of a fence and there just happened to be a person behind there? Also, why are you not finding anything to say about the rest of the videos that are linked? If you truly want more evidence beyond the 4 videos that I have posted, look it up yourself, although I highly doubt you will because you'll just disregard them and find some excuse to defend Shroud doing these suspicious activities.

its a youtube video at super low FPS that has been slowed down really poorly skipping a bunch iof frames that would have been there in game. the fact that you don't have the imagination to reason out this is testament to your mindset.

I have already spoken about each o the other videos in this thread in detail.

the one where he uses the m249. Ther eis no aimbot in history that will select a target at 180 degrees from you over one that is 15 degrees left or right. the flick, the accuracy, the fact that he reaslises his mistake... hell even if it were an aimbot how does he reaslise so fast. have you never been surprised by a team mate ( ever had a team mate ? ) and not realised you wre shooting a friendly until AFTER it says you knocked then with friendly fuire in big red letters .. well he noticed immediately and stopped.
watch some of his new videos posted with the eye tracker installed. it may actually open your eyes a bit when you realise just how quickly he can scan for targets.

Hell just watch him clearing the prison building in Yasnaya, flicking accurately at immense speed between this empty window to that empty window to that empty window .. all with pin point accuracy to land just on the edge of the window frame. Aimbots don't lock onto empty windows ... hell just watch him playing that webgame where a dot appears for a split second and he can click it with his mouse pointer with ridiculous accuracy and speed. does he have a special hacks that work on this random web game also ? lol

DrDisrespects apparent "LIVE reaction, is not live, its just the Docs character stirring the pot, how is it live when he has a slow zooms. Also someone who is not a pro, was never a pro having a reaction is the same as your post, its not evidence its just one person with an opinion.

and the last one is a single 1 tap .... why is it even here ? hasn't everyone done shots like that ? I even posted me doing 3 x 1 taps in quick succession to prove that even a potato like me can do it.

Oh so him snapping onto a person's head while he is driving at around 80mph in a vehicle and one tap headshotting is normal behavior? Also, that's not the last video buddy, look back carefully, 5) is the last video and you haven't spoken about this one at all or how any of the behavior in that video starting at 4:12 makes sense with him snapping onto a person that is inside of a building without even seeing him.

[MonkehMaster]

MLGonthorian a écrit :

Deadly Chicken XoP' a écrit :

its a youtube video at super low FPS that has been slowed down really poorly skipping a bunch iof frames that would have been there in game. the fact that you don't have the imagination to reason out this is testament to your mindset.

I have already spoken about each o the other videos in this thread in detail.

the one where he uses the m249. Ther eis no aimbot in history that will select a target at 180 degrees from you over one that is 15 degrees left or right. the flick, the accuracy, the fact that he reaslises his mistake... hell even if it were an aimbot how does he reaslise so fast. have you never been surprised by a team mate ( ever had a team mate ? ) and not realised you wre shooting a friendly until AFTER it says you knocked then with friendly fuire in big red letters .. well he noticed immediately and stopped.
watch some of his new videos posted with the eye tracker installed. it may actually open your eyes a bit when you realise just how quickly he can scan for targets.

Hell just watch him clearing the prison building in Yasnaya, flicking accurately at immense speed between this empty window to that empty window to that empty window .. all with pin point accuracy to land just on the edge of the window frame. Aimbots don't lock onto empty windows ... hell just watch him playing that webgame where a dot appears for a split second and he can click it with his mouse pointer with ridiculous accuracy and speed. does he have a special hacks that work on this random web game also ? lol

DrDisrespects apparent "LIVE reaction, is not live, its just the Docs character stirring the pot, how is it live when he has a slow zooms. Also someone who is not a pro, was never a pro having a reaction is the same as your post, its not evidence its just one person with an opinion.

and the last one is a single 1 tap .... why is it even here ? hasn't everyone done shots like that ? I even posted me doing 3 x 1 taps in quick succession to prove that even a potato like me can do it.

Oh so him snapping onto a person's head while he is driving at around 80mph in a vehicle and one tap headshotting is normal behavior? Also, that's not the last video buddy, look back carefully, 5) is the last video and you haven't spoken about this one at all or how any of the behavior in that video starting at 4:12 makes sense with him snapping onto a person that is inside of a building without even seeing him.

MonkehMaster a écrit :

oh.... look.....

its another post about shround and mentally challenged kids claiming he cheats, LMAO....

[Catmality]

yeah. no. hes cheating. that first video is basically enough, second video seals the deal.

[MonkehMaster]

Catmality a écrit :

yeah. no. hes cheating. that first video is basically enough, second video seals the deal.

MonkehMaster a écrit :

oh.... look.....

its another post about shround and mentally challenged kids claiming he cheats, LMAO....

[Richard Jokes]

Gonna be real, at this point, it doesn't even matter if he's cheating. So many people cheat in this game now and PUBG doesn't do ♥♥♥♥ about it. Move on or continue to beat your head in playing a game you love. Definitely a love/hate relationship.

[MonkehMaster]

Richard Jokes a écrit :

Gonna be real, at this point, it doesn't even matter if he's cheating. So many people cheat in this game now and PUBG doesn't do ♥♥♥♥ about it. Move on or continue to beat your head in playing a game you love. Definitely a love/hate relationship.

i just farm crates and sell them, if i happen to have fun in the proccess then thats a plus :).

[Deadly Chicken XoP']

MLGonthorian a écrit :

Also, that's not the last video buddy, look back carefully, 5) is the last video and you haven't spoken about this one at all or how any of the behavior in that video starting at 4:12 makes sense with him snapping onto a person that is inside of a building without even seeing him.

Did you add one ? oh I can see yes you did add one.

so now you are complaining that shroud getting killed by someone is also evidence of him cheating ?


So lets see, you claim that he locks onto someone behind a wall ... how can you tell this ? we dont have spectator xray on. we just see him approach the area his team mate was recently killed in flick and shoot one shot at a wall for no apprent reason

like, have you ever flicked round to check something and hit your mouse on your keyboard ?
I dont know what happened there but you cannot say that he locked onto anything because you cant see anything, yes there ends up being a guy nearby that "could" have been in that building.

its literally not evidence of anything

[Deadly Chicken XoP']

Richard Jokes a écrit :

Gonna be real, at this point, it doesn't even matter if he's cheating. So many people cheat in this game now and PUBG doesn't do ♥♥♥♥ about it. Move on or continue to beat your head in playing a game you love. Definitely a love/hate relationship.

Threads like this create people like this guy .... give it a month before we see a
"I'm unfairly banned, I didn't cheat" from this guy.

[TinyApocalypse]

Richard Jokes a écrit :

Gonna be real, at this point, it doesn't even matter if he's cheating. So many people cheat in this game now and PUBG doesn't do ♥♥♥♥ about it. Move on or continue to beat your head in playing a game you love. Definitely a love/hate relationship.

Its true. I know of one guy using ESP hacks and he says "This is what I have to do if I want to make hot-drops. If I don't I'll just get killed by the other players who know exactly where the guns are." And this is someone who I've known for a long time, and I would'nt have taken him for a cheater. I don't use ESP hacks and never will...but when I drop Pochinki and I see four dudes all run for the exact same house...I can't help but wonder what it is they know that I don't about whats in that specific house.

[☯pяiмeĦD]

SHROUD is a professional CSGO player, and if you don't know that , go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ study how good he is in CSGO or any FPS games ! this thread is just a guy who's crying that he ain't good like shroud ! LOL !

[Deadly Chicken XoP']

TinyApocalypse a écrit :

Richard Jokes a écrit :

Gonna be real, at this point, it doesn't even matter if he's cheating. So many people cheat in this game now and PUBG doesn't do ♥♥♥♥ about it. Move on or continue to beat your head in playing a game you love. Definitely a love/hate relationship.

Its true. I know of one guy usinf ESP hacks and he says "This is what I have to do if I want to make hot-drops. If I don't I'll just killed by the other players who know exactly where the guns are." And this is someone who I've known for a long time, and I would'nt have taken him for a cheater. I don't use ESP hacks and never will...but when I drop Pochinki and I see four dudes all run for the exact same house...I can't help bt wonder what it is they know that I don't about whats in that specific house.

To Assume makes an ASS out of U and ME

It seems like some people use your same logic and apply it to bigger things, like the shape of the earth, and yo uknow what they came up with ?

they said they used their own eyes and that proves to them that the earth is a flat disc and that space doesnt exist.

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☯pяiмeĦD a écrit :

SHROUD is a professional CSGO player, and if you don't know that , go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ study how good he is in CSGO or any FPS games ! this thread is just a guy who's crying that he ain't good like shroud ! LOL !

Once again, you just proved my points of 1) and 2) that I predicted most people defending Shroud in this thread would make. In case you actually didn't read the arguments you are trying to make.

Here are my counterarguments to the exact things I predicted most people would end up saying to defend Shroud, including yourself.

1) "Oh, well he used to play CS:GO Competitive and has 1000's of hours on FPS'S"

Yea in CSGO… I'm talking about PUBG though, not CSGO. Just because you're a pro Nascar driver, doesn't mean you're a pro Formula Racer. Same goes for shooters. Is he extremely good at PUBG due to being great at CSGO? Sure. But then why doesn't he enter any tournaments? Why are there so many fishy situations with him? Why are there so many questionable moments? With all these allegations against him about hacking, I'd think joining even 1 tournament to prove he is that good in PUBG just to shut up all the people accusing him if anything.. But he doesn't. That is just another mark that raises suspicions. (Since you don't use personal computers, so no chance he could cheat). He does nothing to prove anything. Even 1 stream of a camera on his keyboard and mouse would prove it. Yet he won't even do that simple gesture of proof... Why? You'd think if you had nothing to hide you'd have no problem proving you are as good as you are. Yet he doesn't. There have been many amazing gamers who have been accused of cheating, and they did one of many things to prove they are legit... It's only cheaters that I see ignore the accusations, and or do nothing to prove it, because they can't. Just yet another of many questionable marks on shroud.

I UNDERSTAND THAT HE HAS PREVIOUS FPS EXPERIENCE AND CAN BE GOOD AT FPS'S. That being said, HE STILL TOGGLES ON HIS AIMBOT ON AN OFF SOMETIMES TO KEEP VIEWER RETENTION and doesn't get banned for this specific act due to him bringing in publicity for the game. It's called an act, he switches it on and off it different situations and plays it off as the game being weird each time that he realizes he messed up on stream. I can go on all day about this and can keep showing you various other clips that make absolutely no sense with him flicking on to people behind walls and "accidentally" friendly firing people due to a bug in the aimlock, but again you will refuse to believe any of it.

2) "Oh, you're just mad cuz bad, you're just jealous of him because he's better."

And to that I say, I'd be perfectly fine if someone was this good… But there are too many red flags, and questionable situations. Then you gotta ask yourself, why doesn't he ever join any type of actual competitive tournaments? You'd think it'd be a fresh cool difference now and again. Someone THAT good, able to perfectly snap onto heads in .05 seconds should be DOMINATING in tournaments, yet he seems to be scared to go in.. Just makes you question.. 1 of many things.