Shroud Might Not Be Who Everyone Thinks He Is...

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Shroud, who everyone seems to love and idolize does not look very legitimate or trustworthy and comes off as very suspicious when you look through all of the footage that has been compiled by people on YouTube of him snapping onto enemy's behind walls and often friendly firing his own team mates while snapping onto targets who are either driving in cars or behind walls, which is very unnatural.


The vast majority of people who have been pointing these things out have been discredited due to people who keep saying the 3 main arguments that defend Shroud;

1) "Oh, well he used to play CS:GO Competitive and has 1000's of hours on FPS'S"

Yea in CSGO… I'm talking about PUBG though, not CSGO. Just because you're a pro Nascar driver, doesn't mean you're a pro Formula Racer. Same goes for shooters. Is he extremely good at PUBG due to being great at CSGO? Sure. But then why doesn't he enter any tournaments? Why are there so many fishy situations with him? Why are there so many questionable moments? Why does he refuse to stream anything other than full screen? With all these allegations against him about hacking, I'd think joining even 1 tournament to prove he is that good in PUBG just to shut up all the people accusing him if anything.. But he doesn't. That is just another mark that raises suspicions. (Since you don't use personal computers, so no chance he could cheat). He does nothing to prove anything. Even 1 stream of a camera on his keyboard and mouse would prove it. Yet he won't even do that simple gesture of proof... Why? You'd think if you had nothing to hide you'd have no problem proving you are as good as you are. Yet he doesn't. There have been many amazing gamers who have been accused of cheating, and they did one of many things to prove they are legit... It's only cheaters that I see ignore the accusations, and or do nothing to prove it, because they can't. Just yet another of many questionable marks on shroud.

I UNDERSTAND THAT HE HAS PREVIOUS FPS EXPERIENCE AND CAN BE GOOD AT FPS'S. That being said, HE STILL TOGGLES ON HIS AIMBOT ON AN OFF SOMETIMES TO KEEP VIEWER RETENTION and doesn't get banned for this specific act due to him bringing in publicity for the game. It's called an act, he switches it on and off it different situations and plays it off as the game being weird each time that he realizes he messed up on stream. I can go on all day about this and can keep showing you various other clips that make absolutely no sense with him flicking on to people behind walls and "accidentally" friendly firing people due to a bug in the aimlock, but again you will refuse to believe any of it.

2) "Oh, you're just mad cuz bad, you're just jealous of him because he's better."

And to that I say, I'd be perfectly fine if someone was this good… But there are too many red flags, and questionable situations. Then you gotta ask yourself, why doesn't he ever join any type of actual competitive tournaments? You'd think it'd be a fresh cool difference now and again. Someone THAT good, able to perfectly snap onto heads in .05 seconds should be DOMINATING in tournaments, yet he seems to be scared to go in.. Just makes you question.. 1 of many things.

3) "Oh, you must be some conspiracy theorist who thinks that ALL streamers/pro gamers are using hacks/aimlock"

Don't try to use your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ generalization fallacy on this argument, no one said EVERY streamer and or pro player is hacking. Ninja, Dr. Disrespect, JoshOG, TSM_Viss, etc. are all great examples of people who are insanely good that aren’t hacking and not even a hint of questionable ♥♥♥♥. There is nothing to suggest or hint that they do. Shroud is a completely different story though. If all of these other pro gamers, streamers were using aimbot or hacking why aren’t there any videos for them doing questionable ♥♥♥♥ but there is a ton for Shroud? What it’s just a coincidence?

4) “If Shroud is a cheater, why hasn’t he got banned yet then!?

THE DEVS ARE NOT GOING TO BAN THE GUY BOTH BECAUSE HE GIVES THE GAME FREE PUBLICITY WITH HIS TWITCH VIEWS AND ALSO BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE BOUGHT PUBG DUE TO HIS STREAM. On top of that, he is too big of a name now for them to ban. Can you imagine how many fanboys would stop playing this game if they made it public? Bluehole are completely aware of his antics but if they ban him it will have serious repercussions on the player base and also will be quite a loud statement about what really goes on in this game. That being said, Bluehole is not going to ban one of their biggest cash cows and the person that is bringing light to their game the most. This is clearly evident by the fact that Shroud does get special treatment from Pubg Corp. He was even invited to their HQ n gave his opinions on the game. Some have even reported that some of the changes that happened in the big update last week were because of Shroud. Like lvl 3 helmet being crate only. Apparently he didn’t like or saw to many at the end of the game all having lvl 3 helmets. Bottom line, however, is that it would hurt Bluehole’s business too much to ban the guy, thus they have no reason to do so even if they know that he is blatantly cheating.


A few videos for reference (You can look up more if you want, there are tons. I'm not going to link you every video."

1) AT 0:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d28yaR61VYg
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4RvPNT6ySE
3) AT 0:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOCe3wPAKGU&t=2s
4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSxPTnfPirI
5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmmns5QLgm8
6)
AT 4:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbtnOVhGV68
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LASTLY;
Whether he's cheating or not is up for debate, however from all of the proof shown recently it is very likely that he does. All I know is if you're smart you can hide the fact you're cheating extremely well. You can toggle those hacks on and off. His excuse of how his "snap" isn't cheating could be completely legit. Or it could be that he simply presses a button to toggle the snap then turns it off, then readjusts the tiny bit at the end, which would completely cover up the fact he used a cheat. There are MANY videos of shrouds replays slowed down that shows extremely sketchy situations, like him "snapping" to an enemy that goes behind a wall and he starts shooting into a completely different building.. Someone who is supposedly THIS good, simply wouldn't do stupid ♥♥♥♥ like that unless he's relying on some third-party program. But who am I to say. There's a lot of sketchy ♥♥♥♥, but he hides it well.

[FissionChips]

My personal opinion is that shroud is a shapeshifting lizard man. He doesn't cheat because he doesn't have to, he just turns on the lizard brain. And this entire cheating conspiracy has been orchestrated by the man himself to keep people talking about him.

I think that the OP IS Shroud

Prove me wrong.

[Jangustaff]

Diposting pertama kali oleh SCP-049 ︻芫═──:

Here we go with the "Shroud cheats/does not cheat" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ again.Give it a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rest.

All this argument will come down to is "Shroud this, Shroud that" over and over again. And then there are the conspiretards that think Shroud and other pro's have some special protection from PUBG Corp.'s Anticheat policies.

Just play the game for YOURSELF/YOUR FRIENDS and have fun blasting people, dying, getting Top 10/Chicken Dinners, doing crazy things with cars and bikes...

Actually we all already did that, we all have a great time with friends and after some times we keep playing, we started to play the game competitively and wondering how to get better.

In that journey we see a lot of "PRO" players that we could learn something from it. They have the gameplay that we wish to achieved. They become our goal. At least for me.

After quite some time watching, you noticing strange gameplay, you could say it's not human. Like impossible shots you see at the clip. And you start amazed and disbelief by his gameplay like for a second. I'm also a fond of thinking if he's cheating he should have been banned for a long damn time. Thus making his gameplay is achieveable and legit.

But I just have big ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ question..

Why he doesn't enter a f@cking tournament, even for f@cking once?

Let's say he is not interested, well that's understable but if you literally have been playing this game for a 2k hours more are you seriously still thinking it the same way?

inb4 "HUR DUR I'M NOT INTERESTED IN TOURNAMENT, ESPORT RDY LUL BUGGY GAME ETC. EZ MONEY IN STRIM WHY SHOULD I ENTER TOURNAMENT EMOGELUL"

After all this time I STILL LEGIT doesn't know why he avoid PUBG LAN TOURNAMENT like plague, I already tried to understand him. But I don't see a logical sequences. He loves this game, he spend a lot of time in this game. Yet every time he asked will you join this tournament shrod? he answered. nope I will not.

If I was him and I have this sort of skill, I would enter any f@cking tournament and become a legend. Yet something hold him to enter this competition.

Tell me fellow b!tches of shroud and pleb, tell me your honest opinion WHY HE DOESN'T JOIN A TOURNAMENT AFTER ALL THIS TIME?

[gwabada]

I think he just, for whatever reason, is on the winning end of desync gunfights almost every time.(and there is desync in EVERY gunfight even if you don't realize it)

[FissionChips]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Jangustaff:

If I was him and I have this sort of skill, I would enter any f@cking tournament and become a legend. Yet something hold him to enter this competition.

Tell me fellow b!tches of shroud and pleb, tell me your honest opinion WHY HE DOESN'T JOIN A TOURNAMENT AFTER ALL THIS TIME?

Why should he, and why does he have to?

Also, my condolence for your failed e-sports career.

[Bill Preston Esquire]

The kids here who are defending shroud are the same ones who steal their parents credit cards to donate money to him, just so their name pops up on the screen and they can get some form of internet fame for 5 seconds..

No one in their right mind can deny the guy is a hacker. I used to totally believe he wasn't but now after some 100+ matches watching the guy play, there is absolutely NO doubt in my mind that he does hack.

The OP here has obviously thought long and hard and crafted this past accordingly. He is not here screaming HACKER!! is is providing clear evidence and stating his case clearly and without malice.

The points he brings up are completely valid, and that is that Shroud cannot enter a competition because his scam would all come unravelled.

EVEN if he eventually does get caught - that means nothing. He will not have to give all you children back your donations, he will not have to hand anything back to anyone.. sure he might lose a stupid energy drink sponsorship that supplies him with a coronary, but he is making a tonne of money off cheating.

He probably knows he will be caught eventually but will ride it out until that day happens.

[KnightFilms]

Shroud doesn't want to play in a tourny because of the amount of stress and committment you undergo while being on the team. You are treated like crap, tons of negativity and failure and that can truly make someone go insane. There is barely any freedom when one plays on a pro-team and he couldn't take it. That's why streaming is fun and bliss to have a good time and to do something he'd enjoy. Some of you just don't get the simple reasoning. The same reason why people don't want to believe in God, not that He doesn't exist but because they like sin and don't want there a God to exist to tell them how to live and what's right and wrong.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh EB_Design:

Shroud doesn't want to play in a tourny because of the amount of stress and committment you undergo while being on the team. You are treated like crap, tons of negativity and failure and that can truly make someone go insane. There is barely any freedom when one plays on a pro-team and he couldn't take it. That's why streaming is fun and bliss to have a good time and to do something he'd enjoy. Some of you just don't get the simple reasoning. The same reason why people don't want to believe in God, not that He doesn't exist but because they like sin and don't want there a God to exist to tell them how to live and what's right and wrong.

Not to bash on what you believe in, but you kind of automatically just discredited yourself by bringing religion into this. We are talking about evidence for Shroud cheating in an objective sense. Not religion, which is considered to be subjective and not supported by any type of evidence or scientific backing.

[D3AD]

Diposting pertama kali oleh A dog w/ custom air jordans:

My personal opinion is that shroud is a shapeshifting lizard man. He doesn't cheat because he doesn't have to, he just turns on the lizard brain. And this entire cheating conspiracy has been orchestrated by the man himself to keep people talking about him.

I think that the OP IS Shroud

Prove me wrong.

im with the tin foil guy ! ( im almost out ) prove us wrong!

[Deadly Chicken XoP']

LOL ok

first video ...
HE DOESNT GET THE KILL .. Chad does .. he hops off the bike and drops the first one, then spots the other through the fence and tries to spam, sees movement and flciks just as Chad takes that guy down .. he then gets a kill notification for the guy he knocked because Chad killed his team mate ..

Seriously get a clue, actually watch the clips and evaluate rather than just trust some nub who is salty that he isnt as good as shroud and no one watches HIS stream .

We have already explained how the "aimbot malfunction" is actually proof that he has the ability to hit those shots you think are impossible. Aimbots never aim at friendlies and if you have the tens of thousands of dollar cheats that people claim he does., then they certainly wont ever do this .. I mean flick PAST all the targets in front of his in a much closer FOV than the guy DIRECTLY BEHIND HIM. even if it was an enemy behind an aimbot would never select THAT target instead of the mutliploe other targets in view in front of him.
(-EDIT- By the way nice to see the OP admit to dabbling in cheating .. this is why he sees everything as a cheat, because that's all he knows )

The Docs reacion .. hwell he is watching shroud miss and get owned ? sure he did ok to dish out as much damamge as he did but lol those are close range targets he isnt even aiming down sights just using the focused hip fire. Its just like CS but takes more shots to take people out. I dont even know why you put this in here ? because an older guy that played the equvilent of sunday league soccer cant hit the same shots as a lionel messi ?

that last one is a single headshot ... so what .. I am terrible at this game and have got some much better clips than that one ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ZBPejXm7U

what about 3 x 1 tap headshots in three shots ?
if only I could have tapped that last fella .. although I expect I was reported for this I can assure you I wasnt cheating ;)

The evidence you posted does not amount to anything at all, its not even suspicious,

With thouse thousands of hours he has of his playinhg online .. 4 clips that dont show cheating is the best you could manage ?

[D3AD]

i also remember when putting MLG in your name without being in the organization lost you all credit to start with reguardless of what you were commenting on in any gaming aspect.

[KnightFilms]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MLGonthorian:

Diposting pertama kali oleh EB_Design:

Shroud doesn't want to play in a tourny because of the amount of stress and committment you undergo while being on the team. You are treated like crap, tons of negativity and failure and that can truly make someone go insane. There is barely any freedom when one plays on a pro-team and he couldn't take it. That's why streaming is fun and bliss to have a good time and to do something he'd enjoy. Some of you just don't get the simple reasoning. The same reason why people don't want to believe in God, not that He doesn't exist but because they like sin and don't want there a God to exist to tell them how to live and what's right and wrong.

Not to bash on what you believe in, but you kind of automatically just discredited yourself by bringing religion into this. We are talking about evidence for Shroud cheating in an objective sense. Not religion, which is considered to be subjective and not supported by any type of evidence or scientific backing.

No I didn't. It makes perfect sense. It's the same thing with evolution and creation thing. Obviously evolution is false and Creation is real and happened and we have a Creator, God. But nevertheless, the point I was trying to make is that no one watched shroud constantly day in by day out, bunch of haters on youtube and elsewhere started to mash suspcious gameplay which by no means make sense. Have you ever flicked with your aim and hit a crazy shot before? Yes absolutely. He has done it in CSGO as well many times and clutched it. He's been playing since 8 years old. If you're a regular watch on his stream, I don't watch him daily like couple times a month, but I feel sorry for that guy because of the idiots that are trying to accuse him of cheating. They have no idea who Shroud is and they want to put out some bs trying to accuse him? That's like trying to accuse your neighbor on their bank spending. Like you know what goes on their bank and it was anything sketchy they'd get caught already. No one gets away with cheating, they will get caught eventually. Shroud talked about that. No one is perfect in their cheats, there comes a day when someone who's cheating loses their guard and gets exposed. He wouldn't risk or be that stupid for anything; he's more genuine than the idiots who accuse him. I bet those who accuse him actually cheated in many games before and are being scrubs. It's always the blamers that blame someone else while they had done that before.

Final statement, Shroud doesn't cheat, he wouldn't risk his stream career for it, his friends, his house, relationship, income, because it bases all around his integrity to do and be legit. People are cowards and certainly capable of blaming dumb crap on others. Welcome to the world of idiocracy.

[lil_menor7]

he IS cheating, it's obvious.

[FissionChips]

What if he's not tho

[Jeppe]

Diposting pertama kali oleh haru:

he IS cheating, it's obvious.

Is it though?

[Biggy-J]

No compelling ‘evidence’ here. Good job wasting your time.