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SgtDeathAdder 2018. márc. 11., 13:57
What chip is better for PUBG: i5 3570k? or i7 3770k?
That's what I can afford, I already have a GTX 1080 any suggestion on which chip will be better for PUBG?
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Nervous Energy 2018. márc. 11., 15:18 
Wait tlll the next release of intel that fixes the major bug in all produtcs :)
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ZergSquad 2018. márc. 11., 15:19 
Dober eredeti hozzászólása:
texasrattler eredeti hozzászólása:
It's the speed you get from the i7 and OCing would be better. PUBG loves faster ghz.
you should watch something like this

https://youtu.be/rajLJxkeedI

zero fps difference between 4 and 5ghz
bcz fps cap 144Hz u stupid
in everything else theres less input lag/microstutters etc
Legutóbb szerkesztette: ZergSquad; 2018. márc. 11., 15:20
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dOBER 2018. márc. 11., 15:23 
ZergSquad eredeti hozzászólása:
Dober eredeti hozzászólása:
you should watch something like this

https://youtu.be/rajLJxkeedI

zero fps difference between 4 and 5ghz
bcz fps cap 144Hz u stupid
in everything else theres less input lag/microstutters etc
watch the whole video.. he drops frames on some points like 104fps and if he changes to 4ghz its still 104.. nothing changes

11:58min
Legutóbb szerkesztette: dOBER; 2018. márc. 11., 17:49
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texasrattler 2018. márc. 11., 17:32 
♢♣ Rolling Skulls ♣♢ eredeti hozzászólása:
SgtDeathAdder eredeti hozzászólása:

I should be fine I'm using the corsair h115i aio, I definitely expect to OC that chip
Um, to stay on-topic... You should do well with the 3770k. I have a 4770k and I seem to have significantly less problems than other people.

Although I will mirror the other's statements and reiterate: you might wanna save up for something newer.

Also if the rumors are true, (and there is good reason to believe it) the Intel chips that are going to drop in 2019 will be mind-blowing.
It's the OPs thread n can say what he likes plus it was on the topic of the processor. So stfu.
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Jackie Daytona 2018. márc. 11., 18:52 
texasrattler eredeti hozzászólása:
♢♣ Rolling Skulls ♣♢ eredeti hozzászólása:
Um, to stay on-topic... You should do well with the 3770k. I have a 4770k and I seem to have significantly less problems than other people.

Although I will mirror the other's statements and reiterate: you might wanna save up for something newer.

Also if the rumors are true, (and there is good reason to believe it) the Intel chips that are going to drop in 2019 will be mind-blowing.
It's the OPs thread n can say what he likes plus it was on the topic of the processor. So stfu.
1.) Wasn't talking to you.
2.) Was making a segway due to the other posts which were veering into petty bickering.
3.) It was on-topic.
4.) I can't be blamed if you get triggered over wording.
5.) I'm sure the OP doesn't need you to white knight to the rescue.
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texasrattler 2018. márc. 11., 22:54 
♢♣ Rolling Skulls ♣♢ eredeti hozzászólása:
texasrattler eredeti hozzászólása:
It's the OPs thread n can say what he likes plus it was on the topic of the processor. So stfu.
1.) Wasn't talking to you.
2.) Was making a segway due to the other posts which were veering into petty bickering.
3.) It was on-topic.
4.) I can't be blamed if you get triggered over wording.
5.) I'm sure the OP doesn't need you to white knight to the rescue.
Its simple dont quote ppl you arent talking to. Its not rocket science. Then there is no issue.
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Earanak 2018. márc. 12., 0:07 
My Personal comparison, if anyone is interested !

PC Specs :
MOT - ASUS X99-A II (Latest BIOS)
CPU - Intel Core i7-6800K (Default NB 2.8Ghz, NB 3.7Ghz OC)
GPU - Aorus GTX 1080 8GB (Stock)
RAM-Kit #1 - G.Skill Trident Z 2*16GB DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 + OC
RAM-Kit #2 - G.Skill Aegis 2*16GB DDR4 2400Mhz CL15 + OC
SSD #1 - Samsung 960 Evo (M.2 PCI-E 32Gbps)
SSD #2 - Samsung 850 Pro (SATA 6Gbps)
OS - Windows 10 with latest updates, include Spectre/Meltdown Patches.

(6T vs 12T / 4T vs 8T)
https://youtu.be/zLXLJW9fvzQ
(4T vs 12T)
https://youtu.be/SJpwA1T1FVQ
I got more FPS boost not from CPU-Frequency or Threads/HT/Cores, no...
But i got more FPS with new RAM-kit AND with overclock North Bridge.
2400Mhz vs 3200Mhz RAM
https://youtu.be/bywkrQluw20
(I done some mistake when forgot reboot PC, but dont warry, i REDONE this test and got absolutely same result, i talk about different RAM/VRAM usage during test, dont warry).
North Bridge 3000Mhz vs 3700Mhz
https://youtu.be/SmXQVGfLeDg
Old Ram - https://imgur.com/C4fhoqO
New Ram + XMP - https://imgur.com/wv0W1l7
New Ram + Manual OC + NB - https://imgur.com/1AyRgIA (Look at Latency and Cache !)
Settings - https://imgur.com/VBrFuQM
Replay Files - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TlOG1YEqJFxMBEYJV4CBippRRiSDQFu3
Replay Folder - %localappdata%\TslGame\Saved\Demos

If i understand this comparisons - i would say huge problem with DDR3 - its bandwith, you need overclock it, lower timings, overclock NB. Cuz even on DDR4 2400-3200 you got pretty good boost, with DDR3 everything is very bad.

P.S. Sorry my English Pretty Bad :) And... Broadwell-E NB is not tied to Core-Clock.
For some CPU when you overclock Cores you also boost North Bridge, but not for me.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Earanak; 2018. márc. 12., 0:24
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dogdaddonga 2018. márc. 12., 0:27 
as of right now the game is pretty much broken but the i7 running at a overclock would be much better than a i5

i had a i5 4690 4ghz and it struggled greatly with this game

a 1600x or any intel cpu made in the last 5 or so years will give you 100fps+ if it has 8 threads or more
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texasrattler 2018. márc. 12., 0:38 
Earanak eredeti hozzászólása:
My Personal comparison, if anyone is interested !

PC Specs :
MOT - ASUS X99-A II (Latest BIOS)
CPU - Intel Core i7-6800K (Default NB 2.8Ghz, NB 3.7Ghz OC)
GPU - Aorus GTX 1080 8GB (Stock)
RAM-Kit #1 - G.Skill Trident Z 2*16GB DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 + OC
RAM-Kit #2 - G.Skill Aegis 2*16GB DDR4 2400Mhz CL15 + OC
SSD #1 - Samsung 960 Evo (M.2 PCI-E 32Gbps)
SSD #2 - Samsung 850 Pro (SATA 6Gbps)
OS - Windows 10 with latest updates, include Spectre/Meltdown Patches.

(6T vs 12T / 4T vs 8T)
https://youtu.be/zLXLJW9fvzQ
(4T vs 12T)
https://youtu.be/SJpwA1T1FVQ
I got more FPS boost not from CPU-Frequency or Threads/HT/Cores, no...
But i got more FPS with new RAM-kit AND with overclock North Bridge.
2400Mhz vs 3200Mhz RAM
https://youtu.be/bywkrQluw20
(I done some mistake when forgot reboot PC, but dont warry, i REDONE this test and got absolutely same result, i talk about different RAM/VRAM usage during test, dont warry).
North Bridge 3000Mhz vs 3700Mhz
https://youtu.be/SmXQVGfLeDg
Old Ram - https://imgur.com/C4fhoqO
New Ram + XMP - https://imgur.com/wv0W1l7
New Ram + Manual OC + NB - https://imgur.com/1AyRgIA (Look at Latency and Cache !)
Settings - https://imgur.com/VBrFuQM
Replay Files - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TlOG1YEqJFxMBEYJV4CBippRRiSDQFu3
Replay Folder - %localappdata%\TslGame\Saved\Demos

If i understand this comparisons - i would say huge problem with DDR3 - its bandwith, you need overclock it, lower timings, overclock NB. Cuz even on DDR4 2400-3200 you got pretty good boost, with DDR3 everything is very bad.

P.S. Sorry my English Pretty Bad :) And... Broadwell-E NB is not tied to Core-Clock.
For some CPU when you overclock Cores you also boost North Bridge, but not for me.
That is what xmp profile does. Im using ddr3 and have no issues. I do use the xmp profile. Been using it for over 2 yrs.
Xmp will oc your ram and processor, it syncs them together.

Will newer better ram help, maybe. But tons of articles have stated that the game loves higher ghz. Ocing ram n proc typically gives better performance in almost any game.

Is ddr3 bad, no. DDR4 3000 or higher is really good but certainly not needed. Yes it will help, no doubt but people using ddr3 dont have anything to worry about.
You can always oc any ram or simply mess with the timings.
You could have cheap ram or bad ram sticks. Cheap ram doesnt perform good or oc very well.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: texasrattler; 2018. márc. 12., 0:46
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Earanak 2018. márc. 12., 0:43 
texasrattler, eh, ok... But default XMP work pretty bad for me. Higher latency, bad NB Clocks, way too much VCCIO/VCCSA Voltage, lower speed than manual settings. And it's not safe for Haswell-E/Broadwell-E platform. Cuz default XMP set VCCIO/VCCSA to 1.3 volts, when you need set it to 0.92-1.05. And my old RAM just cant handle 3200Mhz/CL16/T1, even 2800Mhz with CL17/2T not stable, even if i use 1.45v for RAM and push Voltages for VCCCIO/VCCSA. I even trying to higher sub-timings, litke tRFC.

So, you need good ram for FPS boost, and you need manual OC.
XMP can Kill your memory controller in CPU, atleast HW-E/BW-E.
I look at DDR3 AIDA64 Benchmarks, its SO BAD, and SO SLOW, oh god.
I cant understand how game can work well on DDR3.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Earanak; 2018. márc. 12., 0:50
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texasrattler 2018. márc. 12., 0:50 
Earanak eredeti hozzászólása:
texasrattler, eh, ok... But default XMP work pretty bad for me. Higher latency, bad NB Clocks, way too much VCCIO/VCCSA Voltage, lower speed than manual settings. And it's not safe for Haswell-E/Broadwell-E platform. Cuz default XMP set VCCIO/VCCSA to 1.3 volts, when you need set it to 0.92-1.05.
Xmp is auto. You dont need to mess with it. Ive never had to but my old system was built incase i wanted to oc.
I guess your proc and ram dont like to be oced.
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Earanak 2018. márc. 12., 0:53 
texasrattler eredeti hozzászólása:
You dont need to mess with it.
What ? No ! For X99/BW-E/HW-E you need MANUAL OC, you can Kill CPU with default XMP profile. Its massive problem for this platform and CPU's. Using default XMP motherboards set ABNORMALLY HIGH voltages for System Agent and NB. This problem not gone for years...

Just google it : Haswell-E Broadwell-E VCCIO VCCSA

Its not problem for Desktop CPU's like other i5/i7, Z170/270/370, AMD.
It's actual only for X99/BW-E/HW-E, maybe for X299/Skylake-X, dont know.
Sadly my English pretty bad, i can't explain all things about XMP and X99/2011-3 :(

And for example, if you kill your HEDT CPU like 5820K/6800K/6950X/5960X by using Auto-XMP on "OC Socket" X99-Motherboard, you CAN loose default Intel Warranty, LUL.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Earanak; 2018. márc. 12., 1:05
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NathaN 2018. márc. 12., 0:59 
not much difference but teh i7 will always be better
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Dagestan Coach 2018. márc. 12., 1:03 
SgtDeathAdder eredeti hozzászólása:
That's what I can afford, I already have a GTX 1080 any suggestion on which chip will be better for PUBG?
because you have 1080 go for i7.
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texasrattler 2018. márc. 12., 1:06 
Earanak eredeti hozzászólása:
texasrattler eredeti hozzászólása:
You dont need to mess with it.
What ? No ! For X99/BW-E/HW-E you need MANUAL OC, you can Kill CPU with default XMP profile. Its massive problem for this platform and CPU's. Using default XMP motherboards set ABNORMALLY HIGH voltages for System Agent and NB. This problem not gone for years...

Just google it : Haswell-E Broadwell-E VCCIO VCCSA

Its not problem for Desktop CPU's like other i5/i7, Z170/270/370, AMD.
It's actual only for X99/BW-E/HW-E, maybe for X299/Skylake-X, dont know.
Sadly my English pretty bad, i can't explain all things about XMP and X99/2011-3 :(

And for example, if you kill your HEDT CPU like 5820K/6800K/6950X/5960X by using Auto-XMP on "OC Socket" X99-Motherboard, you CAN loose default Intel Warranty, LUL.

Like i said i guess your proc n ram dont oc well. I have no issues with my i7 3770k n ddr3 1600mhz.
Most games dont need 6 cores, not yet anyways. Pubg is no different.
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