why do people always lean?

[ULTROS4_TTV]

I will look at replays and people are leaning before shooting all the time even in the open. Why?

[Poor Bastard]

引用自 SC cad80_99：

引用自 Trash：

To be "one of the best", you need to secretly cheat otherwise you wouldn't even be able to compete with those who do. It's just like how the best athletes dope, the top politicians lie, and the most successful business leaders evade the law and taxes. In this big and competitive world, only the cheating sociopaths can rise to the top. The ones who have a high social intelligence, an appealing personality, and a complete lack of conscience.

I've been watching Shroud for some time and I know he is one of these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Well I do great in cod4 and get accused all the time. Never have cheated and been playing for a long time. There are a lot of top athletes and players who don’t cheat. Until someone proves shroud cheats, I will believe he is a top level legit player.

There are people who are better. Just like there are many who are bad. Guys like shroud play the game as a living. I do descent especially being that I don’t play to often. Where as shroud and others play 8 hours plus a day.

I am not ignorant to the fact there are cheaters and some who have found ways to stream and hide there wallhack and cheats. But I also believe there are top level players who are legit.

Your right. Most wallhack and visual aid cheats do not appear on a stream. They are overlays that go over the DirectX that is being streamed/recorded. Occassionally, a streamer will accidently stream their cheat program somehow which is pretty damn funny.

But yeah, you can be good at Call of Duty and not cheat but once you get into global top ten, I'm not going to trust you.

[cad80_99]

引用自 Trash：

引用自 SC cad80_99：

Well I do great in cod4 and get accused all the time. Never have cheated and been playing for a long time. There are a lot of top athletes and players who don’t cheat. Until someone proves shroud cheats, I will believe he is a top level legit player.

There are people who are better. Just like there are many who are bad. Guys like shroud play the game as a living. I do descent especially being that I don’t play to often. Where as shroud and others play 8 hours plus a day.

I am not ignorant to the fact there are cheaters and some who have found ways to stream and hide there wallhack and cheats. But I also believe there are top level players who are legit.

Your right. Most wallhack and visual aid cheats do not appear on a stream. They are overlays that go over the DirectX that is being streamed/recorded. Occassionally, a streamer will accidently stream their cheat program somehow which is pretty damn funny.

But yeah, you can be good at Call of Duty and not cheat but once you get into global top ten, I'm not going to trust you.

yeah i think its great when they do get caught. i dont trust anyone really either. however, unless proven 100% i also dont just accuse ppl.

i will have to say this though. I always wonder why streamers never have a webcam showing there hands and keyboard or even there screen.

[Bill Preston Esquire]

jesus christ, is everyone that blind?

It gives you less recoil on your shot.

[Alkhovik]

引用自 Trash：

引用自 SC cad80_99：

lean is not a hack. a lot of streamers even do it.

A lot of streamers hack.

and a lot of idiots like you think that

edit: further proved by your bring in of shroud

[Xoho]

引用自 lockinhind：

引用自 Trash：

No, but the people who consistantly win do. No way you can consistantly win when every game has a dozen cheaters.

if you consistantly win in a 1v100 sinario, your hacking.

Or you just play smartly and don't take unnecessary risks. This game, like most at higher levels, are risk vs reward. The better you are at managing that and consistently being able to kill people when you have the advantage. The more consistently you win. Even with bad teammates, if you take the leadership role you have a decent chance of leading them to victory as long as everyone can effectively communicate. Some people require a crash course. Others are decent enough at this to ignore. (Their comm faults)

Leaning while aiming is just one more minor advantage (since someone aiming for a headshot may miss entirely instead of hitting chest) and many minor advantages add up quickly to become major advantages. That frying pan you have? Might block a few bullets. That rock/tree/ridge that you can take cover behind? Lets you control the fight and take damage at your own pace until they push. The next zone is towards them but you have a ridge to push up on them? They may not know where you're coming from, or at least won't be expecting it 100%.

Source: Personal experience over 190 hours playtime. Top 1% squad FPP, top 1.39% solo TPP. Top 1.8% squad TPP. I tend to solo que squad matches since the people I normally play with like to play a more aggressive playstyle.

EDIT: Does it really reduce recoil? I haven't noticed a major difference, but I also haven't been looking. Seems like a strange mechanic if it does, if anything I would think it would have increased recoil as you're not quite as stable.

[Xoho]

引用自 Trash：

引用自 SC cad80_99：

I am sure anyone who kills you hack.

No, but the people who consistantly win do. No way you can consistantly win when every game has a dozen cheaters.

Have you ever played at a high level in csgo? (Supreme-global) You HAVE to be able to recognize and defeat multiple types of hacks in order to maintain and reach that rank. Aimbots are very common. More common however are spinbots and especially wallhacks. In pubg, as long as they don't autoheal you should be able to kill them. Even the spinbotters. Unfortunately those bastards can be tricky if you're playing solo and it's a 1v1.

[Thrathius]

Alkhovik has no chicken dinners, just wanted to add fuel to the fire

[Vatiwah]

When you shoot a gun, especially trying to burst or auto, the recoil goes up vertically usually. Shooting center mass, your chest, is the easiest. Guess what is above your chest? Your head. By leaning to the side, their head is no longer straight verticle on their chest. It is off to the side.

[cad80_99]

引用自 Xoho：

引用自 lockinhind：

if you consistantly win in a 1v100 sinario, your hacking.

Or you just play smartly and don't take unnecessary risks. This game, like most at higher levels, are risk vs reward. The better you are at managing that and consistently being able to kill people when you have the advantage. The more consistently you win. Even with bad teammates, if you take the leadership role you have a decent chance of leading them to victory as long as everyone can effectively communicate. Some people require a crash course. Others are decent enough at this to ignore. (Their comm faults)

Leaning while aiming is just one more minor advantage (since someone aiming for a headshot may miss entirely instead of hitting chest) and many minor advantages add up quickly to become major advantages. That frying pan you have? Might block a few bullets. That rock/tree/ridge that you can take cover behind? Lets you control the fight and take damage at your own pace until they push. The next zone is towards them but you have a ridge to push up on them? They may not know where you're coming from, or at least won't be expecting it 100%.

Source: Personal experience over 190 hours playtime. Top 1% squad FPP, top 1.39% solo TPP. Top 1.8% squad TPP. I tend to solo que squad matches since the people I normally play with like to play a more aggressive playstyle.

EDIT: Does it really reduce recoil? I haven't noticed a major difference, but I also haven't been looking. Seems like a strange mechanic if it does, if anything I would think it would have increased recoil as you're not quite as stable.

yeah i never heard it reduces the recoil. what i think is that if you lean to the right your recoil then goes that way or at least at an angle that way. a lot of streamers i watch will lean the way a person is running. so if they run from left to right and you lean right, you can shoot close to them and if your shot just lands on them, your next shot should also just from the recoil. i dont do it myself as i am just not used to it other then if behind a tree or wall and use it to peek.

[Poor Bastard]

引用自 Xoho：

引用自 Trash：

No, but the people who consistantly win do. No way you can consistantly win when every game has a dozen cheaters.

Have you ever played at a high level in csgo? (Supreme-global) You HAVE to be able to recognize and defeat multiple types of hacks in order to maintain and reach that rank. Aimbots are very common. More common however are spinbots and especially wallhacks. In pubg, as long as they don't autoheal you should be able to kill them. Even the spinbotters. Unfortunately those bastards can be tricky if you're playing solo and it's a 1v1.

I don't. I would rather not compete with hackers to be honest. I know how bad CSGO is. You can get to a high rank without cheating, but at some point you will come across highly skilled players who supplement their skill with cheats, and it is impossible to compete with them. It's just a sad fact that these crazy competitive people with a win-no-matter-what attitude are the ones at the top.

[patiszerg]

It's a key binding for aim bots and no-recoil hacks. This is obvious by watching death cams and streamers.

[Demonchild]

Tis true the current aim bot doing the rounds in shooter games is bound to the lean keys we use in PUBG by default. Look out for people leaning so that it would obstruct there full view and leaning with snappy movements of their aim, dead give aways of aim bots. Onve they get close to having a target on you it will do a short snap to the head. Very easy to identify in a death cam. See one maybe every dozen games or so.

Many people do lean for other reasons, but in general it just makes them easier to spot/kill, the opposite of whet they are hoping for.

[Aeon]

引用自 Demonchild：

Tis true the current aim bot doing the rounds in shooter games is bound to the lean keys we use in PUBG by default. Look out for people leaning so that it would obstruct there full view and leaning with snappy movements of their aim, dead give aways of aim bots. Onve they get close to having a target on you it will do a short snap to the head. Very easy to identify in a death cam. See one maybe every dozen games or so.

Many people do lean for other reasons, but in general it just makes them easier to spot/kill, the opposite of whet they are hoping for.

Very untrue... Players with good mechanical aim will snap on targets and many players from PUBG's EA days have an unbroken habbit of leaning for no real reason.

What you should be looking for is how you die and not how you are killed. If you die from being railed at a distance and not a single round missing, you're being cheated.
- Are you dying from a better player that naturally leans?
- Are you dying from nothing but headshots at an impossible range?

[TOO OLD FOR THIS!]

It will give you less damage, because arms protect your body. Check video of WackyJacky for good explanation. Works well!

[Bill Preston Esquire]

it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sad you people are still necro'ing a thread from january...