Hackers

[SimmonsX63]

Hackers are so bad on this game that ever since i started playing it( just a few days ago), I have started getting friend invites from spam accounts. What a joke

[Lega]

Do you know how many people are still work for the anticheat team ?

More than 130....

30 people are watching every day to ban temporaly banned player.

100 are not working for the company it self. They are looking for new cheats and stuff
to buy them. After that they can do "reverse engineering", to see how the cheat works.

This is by far the most effective way this days, to ban cheater.

°We currently have over 100 people monitoring the places that sell these hacks (websites, messengers, discord etc.) all over the world 24/7. Various communities that exchange information on hack programs are also being monitored closely so any elements that threaten PUBG’s security can be detected and dealt with as quickly as possible.°

"They wouldn't even need to watch the screen....just have a program that alerts the team when a player hits a certain number of kills or consecutive headshots"

Do you can imagine how much people they would need for that kind of job ?

I can understand that they never can go this way... We are also missing aspects here anyway.

But to be fair, your point is legit and ofc you can ask for that, but it will end in the same way like almost.

Cheater will improve another times and start to cheat much more carefully.

Same happens in CSGO with overwatch. ;)

In the end. I can not blame them for the anticheat part. They have done so many against them like never befor in any game. Recently they added easy anticheat and they encryptet the code to block the "Radar cheat" for browser, tablets, smartphone.

Wackyjacky also liked that a lot.

https://twitter.com/WJacky101/status/1165320630499270658

I also can not understand the politics about the chinese. There was no reason to not lock them
much much earlier without any backdoor of vpn. But i still can only hope that they will change theire minds about that.

Thats the real issue for me.

[N8HII]

Well, I'm just saying that with all the money they're making, it's not like they can't afford to hire ten times that many people and make more of a dent.....but they don't. They have lots of the people they employ making skins and loot boxes because, the money they get from people buying the game, season passes, and then the cheater re-buys, is still somehow not enough....they have to design more skins that they can charge another third of the price of the game....look, no disrespect, but if you believe everything a corporation tells you, when they're telling you that they don't just care about money....then no one can help you. Let's say, just hypothetically, that every suggestion I've made about them is correct, and that they are just milking the situation, while profiting off of cheaters re-buying the game again and again after being banned. I'm not saying I know that it's true, I'm just saying IMAGINE for a moment with me that it is. Now....in this scenario, do you know what that company is going to say to it's customers?

Exactly this: "We currently have over 100 people monitoring the places that sell these hacks (websites, messengers, discord etc.) all over the world 24/7. Various communities that exchange information on hack programs are also being monitored closely so any elements that threaten PUBG’s security can be detected and dealt with as quickly as possible"

Not even ONE, single company is going to just come out and say, "We are screwing you all over. We are appeasing you occasionally by "banning" certain accounts when it becomes OBVIOUS that the person is using hacks and we can't make further excuses for them. But we will go ahead and take another $30 from them and let them back in as soon as they can get the game reinstalled! Please keep buying our skins!!! We're charging you as MUCH as we think we can POSSIBLY get out of our most loyal customers for them!!! Our staff all need new sports cars, after all!!!"

So all I'm saying is, if you believe that ANY company is going to deliberately destroy a steady stream of hundreds of thousands of dollars a month, just to be "fair" to their existing customers....I have to say I think you're being naive.

I COULD be wrong. I REALLY hope that I am.....but, sadly, at this point.... I doubt it.

[N8HII]

I mean, look....you said yourself that PUBG banned over 1 million people in ONE month....that means that if ALL of those people bought another copy of the game, they would make 30 million dollars ON TOP of the $30 million they already got the first time they sold it to them... How many people or corporations made up of people are going to say, "Ummmm, no thanks. You cheated. Keep your 30 million dollars. We don't want it!" You know the answer. I know you want to think the best of them. I've seen you defend them on here over and over and over for quite some time. However, sometimes you just have to look at reality and say, "You know what? It WOULD be REALLY stupid for anyone to say no to $30 million dollars...in a month. And it would also be really stupid to stop allowing people to continue to offer you millions of dollars a month, if they are going to do it, and you're going to get away with it."

Problem is, they're only going to get away with it for so long before all the legit players just say F*** it and leave. Then, like I said before, they will learn the hard way what greed will get you....well.... as hard as still being a bunch of multi-millionaires can be anyway...

[SimmonsX63]

nathanhii님이 먼저 게시:

Well, I'm just saying that with all the money they're making, it's not like they can't afford to hire ten times that many people and make more of a dent.....but they don't. They have lots of the people they employ making skins and loot boxes because, the money they get from people buying the game, season passes, and then the cheater re-buys, is still somehow not enough....they have to design more skins that they can charge another third of the price of the game....look, no disrespect, but if you believe everything a corporation tells you, when they're telling you that they don't just care about money....then no one can help you. Let's say, just hypothetically, that every suggestion I've made about them is correct, and that they are just milking the situation, while profiting off of cheaters re-buying the game again and again after being banned. I'm not saying I know that it's true, I'm just saying IMAGINE for a moment with me that it is. Now....in this scenario, do you know what that company is going to say to it's customers?

Exactly this: "We currently have over 100 people monitoring the places that sell these hacks (websites, messengers, discord etc.) all over the world 24/7. Various communities that exchange information on hack programs are also being monitored closely so any elements that threaten PUBG’s security can be detected and dealt with as quickly as possible"

Not even ONE, single company is going to just come out and say, "We are screwing you all over. We are appeasing you occasionally by "banning" certain accounts when it becomes OBVIOUS that the person is using hacks and we can't make further excuses for them. But we will go ahead and take another $30 from them and let them back in as soon as they can get the game reinstalled! Please keep buying our skins!!! We're charging you as MUCH as we think we can POSSIBLY get out of our most loyal customers for them!!! Our staff all need new sports cars, after all!!!"

So all I'm saying is, if you believe that ANY company is going to deliberately destroy a steady stream of hundreds of thousands of dollars a month, just to be "fair" to their existing customers....I have to say I think you're being naive.

I COULD be wrong. I REALLY hope that I am.....but, sadly, at this point.... I doubt it.

I could not have said anything better then that. I'm half tempted to mark that the answer to this post but I'm having so much fun watching Lega try to defend this crap show. +1

[N8HII]

Native Killer63님이 먼저 게시:

nathanhii님이 먼저 게시:

Well, I'm just saying that with all the money they're making, it's not like they can't afford to hire ten times that many people and make more of a dent.....but they don't. They have lots of the people they employ making skins and loot boxes because, the money they get from people buying the game, season passes, and then the cheater re-buys, is still somehow not enough....they have to design more skins that they can charge another third of the price of the game....look, no disrespect, but if you believe everything a corporation tells you, when they're telling you that they don't just care about money....then no one can help you. Let's say, just hypothetically, that every suggestion I've made about them is correct, and that they are just milking the situation, while profiting off of cheaters re-buying the game again and again after being banned. I'm not saying I know that it's true, I'm just saying IMAGINE for a moment with me that it is. Now....in this scenario, do you know what that company is going to say to it's customers?

Exactly this: "We currently have over 100 people monitoring the places that sell these hacks (websites, messengers, discord etc.) all over the world 24/7. Various communities that exchange information on hack programs are also being monitored closely so any elements that threaten PUBG’s security can be detected and dealt with as quickly as possible"

Not even ONE, single company is going to just come out and say, "We are screwing you all over. We are appeasing you occasionally by "banning" certain accounts when it becomes OBVIOUS that the person is using hacks and we can't make further excuses for them. But we will go ahead and take another $30 from them and let them back in as soon as they can get the game reinstalled! Please keep buying our skins!!! We're charging you as MUCH as we think we can POSSIBLY get out of our most loyal customers for them!!! Our staff all need new sports cars, after all!!!"

So all I'm saying is, if you believe that ANY company is going to deliberately destroy a steady stream of hundreds of thousands of dollars a month, just to be "fair" to their existing customers....I have to say I think you're being naive.

I COULD be wrong. I REALLY hope that I am.....but, sadly, at this point.... I doubt it.

I could not have said anything better then that. I'm half tempted to mark that the answer to this post but I'm having so much fun watching Lega try to defend this crap show. +1

Haha....thanks. I've given it probably more thought than it deserves.....but I love this game, and it REALLY pi$$es me off.....lol

[SimmonsX63]

nathanhii님이 먼저 게시:

Native Killer63님이 먼저 게시:

I could not have said anything better then that. I'm half tempted to mark that the answer to this post but I'm having so much fun watching Lega try to defend this crap show. +1

Haha....thanks. I've given it probably more thought than it deserves.....but I love this game, and it REALLY pi$$es me off.....lol

Ive got 100's of hours on xbox, but the xbox version is suppose to be the "trash" version, but i cant even complete a game on pc without getting wall hacked, killed by bullet desync, or the game crashing. So I'm giving up on this game. I will go play apex. Atleast it being free to play is a better excuse for sucking.

[N8HII]

Native Killer63님이 먼저 게시:

nathanhii님이 먼저 게시:

Haha....thanks. I've given it probably more thought than it deserves.....but I love this game, and it REALLY pi$$es me off.....lol

Ive got 100's of hours on xbox, but the xbox version is suppose to be the "trash" version, but i cant even complete a game on pc without getting wall hacked, killed by bullet desync, or the game crashing. So I'm giving up on this game. I will go play apex. Atleast it being free to play is a better excuse for sucking.

LMAO at Apex sucking comment! HAHAHAHA...PC version of that is full of hackers and glitches too, which is why it's so funny to me. I think when I played it the other day and was just immediately killed in like 5 straight games by people who never missed with a single bullet, it was very possibly the last time I'm playing it. I don't like it as much anyway, and I was ready to throw $hit that day.

As far as PUBG goes, I've never played on XBox...gave up on consoles after the 360. Tried using a controller on my PC when I first got this game, and I was getting my a$$ handed to me SO bad, so had to reach way back to the days of yore and brush up my m&k skills... Then, sadly, just when I was starting to get chicken dinners and improve at the game, PATCH 23. The moment this game officially went to $hit. Patch notes: "We've implemented a new anti-cheat system..." HA....yeah you sure did......and it's dog$hit. Great job.

[CristainoCC]

Chicken King님이 먼저 게시:

Report few people. 1 perma ban today
I play FPP only

FPP get hackers everywhere

[Lega]

N8HII님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, look....you said yourself that PUBG banned over 1 million people in ONE month....that means that if ALL of those people bought another copy of the game, they would make 30 million dollars ON TOP of the $30 million they already got the first time they sold it to them... How many people or corporations made up of people are going to say, "Ummmm, no thanks. You cheated. Keep your 30 million dollars. We don't want it!" You know the answer. I know you want to think the best of them. I've seen you defend them on here over and over and over for quite some time. However, sometimes you just have to look at reality and say, "You know what? It WOULD be REALLY stupid for anyone to say no to $30 million dollars...in a month. And it would also be really stupid to stop allowing people to continue to offer you millions of dollars a month, if they are going to do it, and you're going to get away with it."

Problem is, they're only going to get away with it for so long before all the legit players just say F*** it and leave. Then, like I said before, they will learn the hard way what greed will get you....well.... as hard as still being a bunch of multi-millionaires can be anyway...

I dont care anyway, you guys are getting angry not me.

As i said , "we missing aspects".

At first, we dont have a server sited replay system.
Replay, deathcam and spectator mode are coming from the client not the server.
I dont believe that the PUBG server could take much more data for that.

So your point is probably not possible anyway......

Your calculation about, "30 millions", is wrong.

Do you realy believe that cheater do rebuy the game on steam for 30 bugs ?

European cheater dont pay more than 10-12 bugs on "Keystoresites"

What do you believe how much they pay in asia in countrys like thailand ?

The most accounts are still getting banned in asia

Exactly not even 5 dollar on Keystores. After that, PUBGcorp gets literally 1 dollar each copy.

The game copys it self are worthless compare to money of skins. Fortnite, CSGO, Apex are free to play. The people claimed exact the same thing about CSGO. Now finally nobody can say this anymore.... It was wrong anyway, even in CSGO.

But as i said, you guys are getting angry not me. I was trying to help you to watch behind the scene to see and check, what could be possible and what not. It is not that easie as it looks.

Its up to you guys.

[SimmonsX63]

Lega님이 먼저 게시:

N8HII님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, look....you said yourself that PUBG banned over 1 million people in ONE month....that means that if ALL of those people bought another copy of the game, they would make 30 million dollars ON TOP of the $30 million they already got the first time they sold it to them... How many people or corporations made up of people are going to say, "Ummmm, no thanks. You cheated. Keep your 30 million dollars. We don't want it!" You know the answer. I know you want to think the best of them. I've seen you defend them on here over and over and over for quite some time. However, sometimes you just have to look at reality and say, "You know what? It WOULD be REALLY stupid for anyone to say no to $30 million dollars...in a month. And it would also be really stupid to stop allowing people to continue to offer you millions of dollars a month, if they are going to do it, and you're going to get away with it."

Problem is, they're only going to get away with it for so long before all the legit players just say F*** it and leave. Then, like I said before, they will learn the hard way what greed will get you....well.... as hard as still being a bunch of multi-millionaires can be anyway...

I dont care anyway, you guys are getting angry not me.

As i said , "we missing aspects".

At first, we dont have a server sited replay system.
Replay, deathcam and spectator mode are coming from the client not the server.
I dont believe that the PUBG server could take much more data for that.

So your point is probably not possible anyway......

Your calculation about, "30 millions", is wrong.

Do you realy believe that cheater do rebuy the game on steam for 30 bugs ?

European cheater dont pay more than 10-12 bugs on "Keystoresites"

What do you believe how much they pay in asia in countrys like thailand ?

The most accounts are still getting banned in asia

Exactly not even 5 dollar on Keystores. After that, PUBGcorp gets literally 1 dollar each copy.

The game copys it self are worthless compare to money of skins. Fortnite, CSGO, Apex are free to play. The people claimed exact the same thing about CSGO. Now finally nobody can say this anymore.... It was wrong anyway, even in CSGO.

But as i said, you guys are getting angry not me. I was trying to help you to watch behind the scene to see and check, what could be possible and what not. It is not that easie as it looks.

Its up to you guys.

It is as easy as it looks. Its literally as easy as it looks. If you put in more effort in then the people making the hacks then you win. But they aren't, they are loving the fact that they are making millions of dollars on the hackers. With every perma ban they make more money. But with every perma ban they lose 5 more players because they are fed up with the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheating.

I would rather wait 2 minutes to find a game of legit 50 players then wait 10 seconds to play with 25 cheaters out of 100.

[Lega]

They earned last year 920 millions with 5+ million player.

https://esportsobserver.com/pubg-fy-2018-results/

We just have now 1.5 million player in rotation. Count for your self how much money they get this year. Maybe 250 million ? Yeah seems like the benefit a lot from cheater.

Did you missed my point about 1 dollar each copy ?

Cheater are worthless for them because the damage is insane.

And no thats not a defence for them.. Its logic based on money.

But as i said, i dont care in the end. Im not here to fight with anyone.

You could read a lot more aspects behind all that, and maybe it helps to see
it is not that simple.

I know that more efforts will not bring the victory.


https://gyazo.com/153d3a4d2c6c5a72977f72935dc5147b

Look at this kind of cheater. People like him are rare, so even if they hire 3000 more worker to overwatch many player each day, which is probably not possible anyway because of the system it self, the amount of cheater will not get less as you aspect.

And if you believe that they would spend 10 million each month just for the sallery
of 3000 workers, you dont know how less the effect is. Its not worth it.

I was part of the overwatch function back in days in CSGO. People needs to be objective
and it is realy hard to detect cheater who know how to hide.

They just have to raise a doubt, and then you have to let them go.

You dont need to agree with me, but nobody can say im a "fanboy".

Im trying to get all aspects to see, what can we expect and what not.

That is how my mind works, because i don't want judge anyone unfair.

[Zambo]

unfortunately other big battle royals do work on their anti cheat system and while yes some hacks will get through, they work to resolve the problem as where pubg does not and yes they try to make us forget about these problems by updating visuals and such instead of working on the main issues at hand. i have emailed these devs numerous times about the cheating and have even screenshot these discussion post for them to read. im sorry but they truely do not care. i have never gotten a response back from them, not even an automated message. also some people need to quit backing the devs and sucking their c0cks. im sorry but they do not care. we paid for a product and all we got were defects. i play apex and have played some fortnite and fortunately i havent came across a single hacker (not saying they dont exist on those games) but i have went back and watched replays and 100% of the time of why i was killed was due to a player being better than me. when i go back on a pubg replay roughly 30-40% of my deaths was due to a player that was better and the other 60-70% of my deaths were to hackers automatically snapping their aim directly to my head when they never did see me. i have saved MANY MANY replays and screenshots and have gone over them and you know what i found....... well i think you know where im going with this.

There is an old saying: "The proof is in the pudding" and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this pudding is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ disgusting. been loving apex legends. hardly play pubg that much now but i do come on the discussions to get updates. Sorry everyone that such a great game went to ♥♥♥♥. go play apex!

[Lega]

Zambo님이 먼저 게시:

unfortunately other big battle royals do work on their anti cheat system and while yes some hacks will get through, they work to resolve the problem as where pubg does not and yes they try to make us forget about these problems by updating visuals and such instead of working on the main issues at hand. i have emailed these devs numerous times about the cheating and have even screenshot these discussion post for them to read. im sorry but they truely do not care. i have never gotten a response back from them, not even an automated message. also some people need to quit backing the devs and sucking their c0cks. im sorry but they do not care. we paid for a product and all we got were defects. i play apex and have played some fortnite and fortunately i havent came across a single hacker (not saying they dont exist on those games) but i have went back and watched replays and 100% of the time of why i was killed was due to a player being better than me. when i go back on a pubg replay roughly 30-40% of my deaths was due to a player that was better and the other 60-70% of my deaths were to hackers automatically snapping their aim directly to my head when they never did see me. i have saved MANY MANY replays and screenshots and have gone over them and you know what i found....... well i think you know where im going with this.

There is an old saying: "The proof is in the pudding" and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this pudding is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ disgusting. been loving apex legends. hardly play pubg that much now but i do come on the discussions to get updates. Sorry everyone that such a great game went to ♥♥♥♥. go play apex!

Its like, where is your proof that other BRs care and work much more ?

We do not get any ban stats of them.

Google apex for cheats, or fortnite and check the forums.
Same for CSGO where people complain about cheater aswell.

The only diffrence is, other games dont have that much chinese as PUBG.

But try to play apex on high ranks to see the same as in any other game........

https://dotesports.com/apex-legends/news/apex-legends-high-ranked-league-is-almost-unplayable-thanks-to-hackers

https://gurugamer.com/pc-console/apex-legends-high-ranked-elo-is-unplayable-due-to-hack-and-cheat-4682

[SimmonsX63]

Yet again. What company in their right mind would turn down making 250 million in a year on a game that has been out for 5 years? None. And for that fact. In a year this game will be dead. You can’t even find a full game on consoles. It’s so dead. And on pc. It’s absolutely garbage. And the only reason it has as many players as it does is because Chinese players have to have 10 accounts a day to play for a full day.

I’m sorry you don’t see a solution to this issue. But this isn’t 2005, this is 2019. And if you think for a second that blue balls can’t stop the hacking issues you are crazy.

And to further prove my point, they shut down family share on this game to force households to buy a copy for every account. There’s no other reason to do this other then to make people buy more then one copy.

Thank you, please hold your applause till the end. Oh. The end of this game happened already. Well in your over head compartment you’ll find your complimentary barf bag.

[Lega]

Native Killer63님이 먼저 게시:

Yet again. What company in their right mind would turn down making 250 million in a year on a game that has been out for 5 years? None. And for that fact. In a year this game will be dead. You can’t even find a full game on consoles. It’s so dead. And on pc. It’s absolutely garbage. And the only reason it has as many players as it does is because Chinese players have to have 10 accounts a day to play for a full day.

I’m sorry you don’t see a solution to this issue. But this isn’t 2005, this is 2019. And if you think for a second that blue balls can’t stop the hacking issues you are crazy.

And to further prove my point, they shut down family share on this game to force households to buy a copy for every account. There’s no other reason to do this other then to make people buy more then one copy.

Thank you, please hold your applause till the end. Oh. The end of this game happened already. Well in your over head compartment you’ll find your complimentary barf bag.

Thats is what i mean....

You dont know what happen.

Family share is deactivated since more than 1 year.

"Using a weak point in the Steam Family Sharing system to circumvent Steam and PUBG’s restrictions

If an account that purchased PUBG used Family Sharing to share the game with an account that didn’t purchase PUBG, the account that the game was shared with can no longer play the game."

https://www.pubg.com/2019/02/26/a-letter-from-the-anti-cheat-team/

Its not the first time that i proved you now that things already happen