Scopes for the colour blind!

[vidal]

It would be great if one could change the colour of the holo/red dot scopes, so that we the colour blind could see it better.

[AmaraTheSilent]

"So you think because a handful of people in this thread in favor of it proves something? How about the 124,995 other people who play this game who didn't care enough even to enter this topic? "

Just gonna throw my 2 cents into this storm but, in what universe do you believe that EVERY PERSON playing an EA game actually pays attentions too the forums, im not sure where you got the 124,995 number from, but assuming thats the player base only 30,105 even bothered to take time to make a review, thats 1 in every 4 players even bothering to make a reveiw that effects the general popularity statistic of the game

User reviews:
OVERALL: Mostly Positive (30,105 reviews)
Release Date: 23 Mar, 2017

Its not a long stretch of assumption to make a comparison from those numbers to how many people even bother looking at the games community forum.

That being said, I am personally all for them taking a bit of time to make the game more visably accessable to all players who play, regardless of the statistics of how many may have an issue with being colorblind. Also to throw it out there, it only takes 1 person in a wheelchair going to city hall about a business that doesnt have wheelchair access to force that business to spend the money and put it in, in that respect I think generally asking them to put in a feature when they have a bit of time is down right polite.

[Ze]

Originalmente postado por CrossShade:

Originalmente postado por AmaraTheSilent:

"So you think because a handful of people in this thread in favor of it proves something? How about the 124,995 other people who play this game who didn't care enough even to enter this topic? "

Just gonna throw my 2 cents into this storm but, in what universe do you believe that EVERY PERSON playing an EA game actually pays attentions too the forums, im not sure where you got the 124,995 number from, but assuming thats the player base only 30,105 even bothered to take time to make a review, thats 1 in every 4 players even bothering to make a reveiw that effects the general popularity statistic of the game

User reviews:
OVERALL: Mostly Positive (30,105 reviews)
Release Date: 23 Mar, 2017

Its not a long stretch of assumption to make a comparison from those numbers to how many people even bother looking at the games community forum.

That being said, I am personally all for them taking a bit of time to make the game more visably accessable to all players who play, regardless of the statistics of how many may have an issue with being colorblind. Also to throw it out there, it only takes 1 person in a wheelchair going to city hall about a business that doesnt have wheelchair access to force that business to spend the money and put it in, in that respect I think generally asking them to put in a feature when they have a bit of time is down right polite.

Also UE4's blueprint system supports this natively and would cost $0 and a few minutes to implement, video I showed proved that.

It's not gonna cost tens of thousands of $, employees and a contractor like an accessible friendly building would.

So I think it would be a good idea to implement this soon, I do feel the plight for colour blind people and the solution is pretty easy/simple/none costly.

Any company that makes their games more friendly to people with different "disabilities" is A-OK in my book.

Like how some companies let you play their games using a controller and mouse and keyboard at the same time. Some people have issues where they can't use WASD but they can use the left stick on a controller to move around.

Stuff like that.
Video games shouldn't be some exclusive club for c..runts and a-holes.

[Ze]

Originalmente postado por CrossShade:

Originalmente postado por ZeForgotten:

Any company that makes their games more friendly to people with different "disabilities" is A-OK in my book.

Like how some companies let you play their games using a controller and mouse and keyboard at the same time. Some people have issues where they can't use WASD but they can use the left stick on a controller to move around.

Stuff like that.
Video games shouldn't be some exclusive club for c..runts and a-holes.

I agree, absolutely love companies that offer diverse amounts of ways to play incase anyone has an injury, birth defect or anomaly in any form that stops them playing their favorite hobby, I adore companies that put in special control schemes for a SINGLE disabled player and such, always makes me smile :)

I'm sure those small numbered individuals with such issues, must feel that much extra respect for the developers when they are listened to in such circumstances, I know I'd be grateful for it.

Yup, being a person not born with any crippling issues myself I don't see any issue with helping those who could use the help, no matter how small it is.

And in case some developers don't do it(for some dumb reason) there are luckily third parties willing to help, like GamersAid, AbleGamers and Special Effect!

Takes a certain kind of "person" to look down on organizations like that.

[Ze]

Originalmente postado por CrossShade:

Originalmente postado por ZeForgotten:

Yup, being a person not born with any crippling issues myself I don't see any issue with helping those who could use the help, no matter how small it is.

And in case some developers don't do it(for some dumb reason) there are luckily third parties willing to help, like GamersAid, AbleGamers and Special Effect!

Takes a certain kind of "person" to look down on organizations like that.

Or call people who have no issues who still WANT those who suffer from these issues to have a fix so they can play too bigoted. xD

I mean, words change meanings all the time due to people misusing them(like "literally" and "could care less") so if bigot is what people wanna call me for helping others while making those not willing to help others feel like lesser human beings then I'll probably still sleep well tonight :P

[endlessBoogie]

As a workaround colorblind players could adjust the rgb cannels in the gfx driver ( atleast it´s possible in the nvidia driver) until they implement a colorblind-mode... not sure if this would help , as I am not colorblind ... but maybe worth a try

[Charmander787]

What color does the sight look like to you?

[Darkreaver1980]

Hey Harry Napel,

i am one of the 8% "minority".

And just for you....if 8% of all people are colorblind, this also means 8% of all gamers will have it. so this means there are THOUSAND of people playing this game which has no color blind option and this is realy not good.

And again, just for you....playing a game or not, has absoluty nothing to do with beeing colorblind. It is a disease and has NOTHING to do with playing games at all.

Ok just again for you. i give you some nice facts.

About 8% of males are colorblind

About 8% of male welders are colorblind


About 8% of male office crafts are colorblind


About 8% of male gamers are colorblind


etc

i realy hope you did understand it now :D

[Suspicious_Lynx]

I'm color blind and already come equipped with my own set of glasses. So the color blind miracle glasses are out of the picture. I can still play the game, but some setting would be kinda neat.... Not to intrude on the heated debate here.

[k1ska]

Originalmente postado por CrossShade:

Originalmente postado por k1ska™:

The thing is, though, no matter what you say you meant by it, it was literally irrelevant to the conversation. People were not bragging about how good their sight is, they were suggesting something be implemented because of their defective vision. Your little tidbit served zero purpose and if it did then its purpose is only meaningful to you.

It's funny you suggest I was trying to establish anything when the only thing I stated was how your little narcissistic comment was completely irrelevant. No matter how you try to twist it, it will remain irrelevant.

The fact that you are even arguing with me about a point that is irrelevant itself just proves how truly self-indulged you are. I just made a comment about something that seemed funny to me but you had to make it into a big deal because you have to be right.

So selfish.

EDIT:

It's also funny that you went to my profile to try to use that as leverage against me when yours is private. Plus, context matters bro! (Do you understand sarcasm?)

This post just proves my point that you missed the context out, probably from reading with a half assed attention span as I originally said.

The fact you continued to try to prove your point which is obviously flawed shows your narcissistic side, can't even be bothered to address the fac thtere was context, and will now fabricate something to try to prove his point.

Yeah, fabricating ♥♥♥♥ to prove yourself, Narcissitic to the core.

Also "I'm better/smarter than you all" in your profile took 5s to research.

Kinda proves my point, you have a god complex. You're just salty I found it out.

Yet you still continue with this "you missed the context" argument like it holds any merit. There is no context to it, if there were it would have had a place but it does not. The fact you keep going back to that even though you know you're wrong (but refuse to admit it) kind of shows a lot about your personality. If my point is flawed, you had no point to begin with. There is no addressing the fact that there was context because there is no fact. Also, no need to be redundant and tell me I was fabricating anything (which I haven't), I just pointed out your fallacious arguments and you can't stand it because even though you know I'm right, your narcissistic personality won't allow you to admit fault.

Apparently, my little "I'm smarter than you" quip in my profile bothers you so much which is absolutely hilarious because you aren't understanding the context. You see how that works? When there is actual context to be understood, not even the master of context (again, sarcasm so your small mind can comprehend it) can understand!

I love that you keep turning the narcissism trait back onto me. Projection is the ugly defense of those in denial. I have no reason to be salty because in your case, my profile's phrase rings true. I didn't bring that up to suggest it was hard to find by the way, I brought it up because it proves a point about your personality, which I find absolutely hilarious.

You are, quite honestly, one of the least intelligent individuals whom I've had the pleasure of destroying. The fact you continue to try to portray yourself as intelligent even after your innate lack of basic comprehension is so adorable. You know, I praise those such as yourself. You hold yourself on a pedestal and that pedestal is far below so many others but you just seem oblivious to it.

It's cute, really. So, son, please continue with this drivel you attempt to use as a rebuttal. I find it an interesting read as it shows people the core of your psyche.

[Harry Napel]

Originalmente postado por ZeForgotten:

There's always that one bigot, isn't there?

Don't use words that you do not understand the meaning. Also, when you misapply a label because you are too ignorant to understand the real issue at hand it makes you look stupid.

Originalmente postado por CrossShade:

Originalmente postado por Harry Napel:

Neither do you, and that isn't something I ever claimed to have... so... your point? I was of the understanding this was a public forum to express opinions... as the OP did. I'm wrong for having a different one than you?

This post has "colour blindness" in the title... so of course anyone in the forums who happens to be color blind, or sensative to the topic would be here in favor of it. But that literally means nothing to your point. So you think because a handful of people in this thread in favor of it proves something? How about the 124,995 other people who play this game who didn't care enough even to enter this topic? Does that make my point? I don't think so, but it sure makes more of a point to my side than it does to you! lol

The time it takes is irrelevant to my point even from the beginning. My opinion, is that ANY amount of time AT THIS STAGE of EA development would be a waste of manpower and resources for something this trivial. We aren't talking about braile for blind people, or prostethics for amputees, most everyone in this thread has the opinion that the devs should take time away from optimization and etc, so that an insignificant number of the community can see a particular color, or a particular sight, better. BETTER. The argument isn't "we can't see anything", it's simply they want to see it "better". Well I'm sorry most of the color blind people are too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lazy to go out and buy glasses that will fix the color issue for EVERY part of their lives, but that just shows how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ selfish and lazy so many of you are! You would rather EVERY suffer for a longer period of time against actual game issues, so that you can "see a color better". That is the epitome of selfish.




I already responded to some other moron about how flawed your point is here, please read over the thread again before further exposing your lack of intelligence.

It takes 2 minutes, I like how you ignored the fact this was proven earlier, 2 minutes to save a few thousand people issues?

Why not? Only reason I can assume is because you're a bigot.

You'll quote statistics, make a thesis on the subject, but ignore the fact this can all be done/showcased in a TWO MINUTE TUTORIAL, meaning it takes about 20-30s to actually do for a person.

Exactly how is that a waste to save a few thousand people issues? You kind of people need to get laid tbh.

Pointing out people being selfish and inconsiderate of the majorty of players doesn't make me a bigot. Like the other fool, understand what that means and actually read the arguments before making ignorant statements.

The time it takes is irrelevant. And just because someone posted a "how to" video doesn't mean that is actually how easy it is for apply in this particular game. Have you considered the fact that if it really only took 2 minutes to apply... and how "so many other games have it", that MAYBE it doesn't take 2 minutes as was stated? Is it possible that you, like the other fools in this thread who don't even understand how statistics work, that you don't understand how long or intensive it may be? I'm not a coder or dev in any way... and never claimed to be. My point is and always has been that "at this stage of development" no time should be wasted to (keyword) IMPROVE the visual for scopes that only affects an insignificant amount of the community. It doesn't make me a bigot, because I haven't once said it "should never be done", just not yet. In fact, consider the reality that the devs haven't yet done it. Does that make them bigots too? Are you really that ignorant and unable to have a reasonable argument to the push your side of the discussion?

Most of you are so selfish and lazy about arguments that you resort to name calling and commenting on what level of sexual activity I am engaged in as the major part of your argument. Is that really how you've been taught to have discussions? Now I have no problem stating how ignorant and stupid people are, but you will notice it isn't the main points of my arguments.

Go read a book on debate, or get a little more conviction about your stance on a topic before lazily showing how selfish and self centered most of you are. This entire time your stance has been the IGNORE the majority, and cater to an insignificant amount of players.

[Harry Napel]

Originalmente postado por Darkreaver1980:

Hey Harry Napel,

i am one of the 8% "minority".

And just for you....if 8% of all people are colorblind, this also means 8% of all gamers will have it. so this means there are THOUSAND of people playing this game which has no color blind option and this is realy not good.

And again, just for you....playing a game or not, has absoluty nothing to do with beeing colorblind. It is a disease and has NOTHING to do with playing games at all.

Ok just again for you. i give you some nice facts.

About 8% of males are colorblind

About 8% of male welders are colorblind


About 8% of male office crafts are colorblind


About 8% of male gamers are colorblind


etc

i realy hope you did understand it now :D

Hey Darkreaver,

I'm not part of the 8%, and just for you, you are completely wrong about how statistics work. And with the staggering amount of people in this thread that apprently share your lack of education on how they work, I will simply repost a response I gave to another person who, like you, thought it was a good idea to act like they know something, but only exposed their own stupidity.

Originalmente postado por Harry Napel:

Actually, you aren't stating facts, because evidently you have no clue how statistics work. I posted a "world" statistic, and since you are a fool, you think it translates down to smaller groups by using simple math skills. You say you post facts, yet in the "fact" you say the word "about". Do you know what that word means? It means that it isn't certain... which ultimately means it is NOT fact. Because facts are certain, statistics are not certain. See the difference? You see my sweet small minded person, world statistics cannot just be divided down to small groups and claimed as facts, because statistics are NOT facts. But what what we do know for a fact is that with each variable within a fact, the statistics will reduce. For instance, when I mentioned about the groups within video games, then pc games, then fps etc ect, those are the variables that ultimately reduce statistics that are the result of a number over 8 billion. Compare this logic to to any group and the result will be the same. For instance, you cannot say that a group of native Americans, who are alcoholic, who have shaved heads, who don't brush their teeth, 1 in 12 are color blind. There is no possible way that is fact, simply because of a world statistic about all the men in the world.

But you undoubtedly won't bother reading any of this like most other small minded people and resort to calling me a bigot instead. But that's ok, I know I did my part to educate those who need it.

[Stosh]

it's color blind, you proper English arse

[phrost]

it would take me literally less than 5min top add an RGB option to all the scopes... it would take zero dev time as i could do it while drinking a cup of coffee with one hand and typing with the other.

that it isnt in already in a "competetive" game is just weird in this day and age.