Kar 98 should not be a 1 shot kill with level 2 gear and full meds. My opinion.

[Bloodydemon]

Had 100% health had bullets for days, had a medkit had 6 first aids 5 pain killers and 3 red bulls, 6kills. And it looked like i was gonna win so i med up fully to ensure precise aim. BOOM headshot insta death even though i took precautions to med up -__- Shouldn't painkillers/red bulls prevent that? i feel like there is very little counter play against the kar98 atm unless you get a level 3 helmet. I feel like there should be more options to surviving the kar98 insta headshot. Also it makes the M24 kinda useless, i understand it has less bullet drop and more damage for body shots but honestly i think i'd be running towards air drops more often if the M24 was the insta headshot killer and not the kar 98. I see only 2 options nerf the kar98 to do 99dmg or it least not 100dmg when you're fully medicated, make level 3 helmets more common. I vote for the former. What are your opinions?

[Halgrave]

You guys know that unless you have a Ballistic Mask on or a level 3 helmet...you can still get killed in one shot with a -pistol- if the bullet hits your face in this game, right? The surface area of the helmet is the only part that is protected. So if you got shot in the face, you'll have died either way.

[Bloodydemon]

引用自 #2047 Halgrave：

You guys know that unless you have a Ballistic Mask on or a level 3 helmet...you can still get killed in one shot with a -pistol- if the bullet hits your face in this game, right? The surface area of the helmet is the only part that is protected. So if you got shot in the face, you'll have died either way.

not true. helmet protects whole head doesnt matter if shot is in the face or back of head. you can test it your self if you dont believe me get a lvl 2 helmet find an sks which is a 1 shot without helmet and shoot his face he should still have 25% hp

[MoonGaimz]

as long as u don't use captain americas shield material as a helmet, a sniper headshot will oneshot you no matter what.

[StuckStepMom]

i find the weapons damage to be highly inconsistent anyway. Best exemple is what happened few games ago. Drop from the plane, land next to a house with someone else. we both run inside the house, me first and i see a pack of guns up ahead, two double barrel shotgun with ammos for day, i pick one, with 1 stack of bullets quick, reload. the guy does the same but i finish befor him, i aim, point ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ blank no armor on him, chest shot, he doesnt die. he does the same to me, i die. Why ? no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clue. Or i see a guy 30 feet away, level 2 armor and helmet. 4 chest shot with sks, he doesnt die, next game, sks again , about the same distance, level 2 gear on him, two shot to the chest and the guy died. Why is weapons damage feel soo much inconsistent? registering issue ?

edit : on the second case the guy could've been low health. tho i doubt that would be the case since he was camping the same spot for ages and had loads of meds on him, so he was most likely full health ( pointing this out before someone does )

[Grey]

how dare you being shot directly in your face result in a death. what is this ♥♥♥♥...

[PolishSlay3r]

引用自 BloodyDemon：

引用自 ♑Pogny♑：

Killed AFK people on kar98 500m+ needed 3 shots to kill them.

Kar98 needs to deal more than SKS. Kar need to one shot lvl 1 and 2 helmet and 2 shoots lvl3 Helmet...

only AWP must one shot lvl 3 helmet.

and I dont speak about duo/squad I would like snipers headshot insta kill people without rez possible.

Wait? Why would the sks need to deal less damage?? No it needs to the same. And in duo if no rez then it should be for all guns. You guys make it sound like sniper rifles has more killing power than a other guns? Reality check! It doesnt.

Bro the sks can fire without having to bolt the weapon/reload... The kar has 1 shot before it scopes out and botls and scopes in... Sks doesn't have that. that's why sks needs to deal less. common sense?

[Aino]

Balance > Realism in a video game. Something a lot of you should bloody realize.

Non-OHKO headshots are some of the things that make this game a cut above the rest. Hitting the head once with a lucky shot is not skillful, and not satisfying to receive. If you're good, you'll make that shot twice with automatic/semi automatic/whatever kind of firearms. Crossbow's another story altogether. Why it is even a thing is beyond me, but for ignoring realistic damage due to its difficulty of use, it's OHKO is fine.

What's more? What would be the point of helmets if they did buggerall?

If you are sniping in a close range firefight, you SHOULD be at a disadvantage, and that is just a fair thing to happen. Let's hope snipers NEVER become more powerful. Sniping at range, you already have the advantage of a single shot doing more than a rifle's, minimizing your exposure and noise footprint.

Bolt-action rifles are actually fine as they are right now. They DO NOT need any change what so ever. OHKO on the M24, and K98K against T1 or T2 helmets is fine. AWM, if you survive the box run, is an earned advantage. Kind of wish the M249 was actually useful to justify its box exclusivity as well.

[CeeKay2k]

Stop whining, LEARN TO PLAY.

[surf_10x_reloaded]

If you hear someone shoot at you with a Kar 98, dont peek them. EZ

[Sithis]

引用自 hard weed boy：

If you hear someone shoot at you with a Kar 98, dont peek them. EZ

If you see a year-old thread, don't necro it. EZ

[Michael]

This thread was quite old before the recent post, so we're locking it to prevent confusion.