Team killing penalties...

[Skully Dawg]

seriously i am sick of matching with teams to have a good team experience and they dont even talk because they are all on discord or some sh3t and just team kill you for your gun or just to be funny in spawn location...

[Ascii Aficionado]

Jenny eredeti hozzászólása:

They're going for some realism, and its meant to be competitive, there's no reason you should be able to lets say throw a HE into a house as your friend pushes into it because you can ignore the damage. There's also no reason you should be able to light up the back of your friend and do no damage to him. Throw a bad molly? you should be punished. No FF damage would also then start causing people to be able to jump out of cars, know why? Because when you die in a vehicle to the vehicle it counts it as friendly damage (yet another reason why the auto punish system wouldn't work). There's only one even semi-reasonable excuse to not have FF, and thats to stop TKs. there are many more reasons why to HAVE it.

The instant I read there were grenades in the game is when I knew my argument was wrong, for some reason I thought it was firearms only.

Based on that, I'm fine with FF.

There definitely needs to be motivation for people not to TK.

[Tigerwolf]

👿 Lord of the Pitch 👿 eredeti hozzászólása:

At lekast make it like CSGO where if the system notices you killing team members too often you get a minor game waiting time

If you didn't have such ludicrous requirements for people befriending you....I might have added you. Your profile is just, wow.

I play with friends on discord and we're on the opposite side of the same problem. We've ran into many solo players matched with three of us who kill us for weapons which ruines the game for our group. I agree there should be some penalty. I'll leave it up to the developers as to what is fair.

[KilzZ]

ya dont randomly join squad solo ur a waste of space in the game if you do so

[Six-Foot Turkey]

Jenny eredeti hozzászólása:

Six-Foot Turkey eredeti hozzászólása:

Don't punish. Just find a way to discourage it. Give extra points if you inflict no damage on your team. I get team killed a lot in squad mode, it's super annoying. All they have to do is find a way to discourage it.

See, this comes back to what I said... If you get TKed often, how are we to know that you didn't cause the TK? If they automatically punished, that would be rediculous. If they punished at all without being able to see why, that would also become rediculous. The problem is that since it's purely voice comms, it becomes hard to prove the TK wasn't what would be considered justified. You can be near your teammates not shooting at them, but running your mouth off over comms, why should they be punished for not dealing with you? Not saying you actually are, just saying that these things are common, especially if you're TKed often. If you have a true issue with being TKed for absolutely no reason, start recording your matches, allow your mic through, and then send the proof of them unjustly TKing you. I don't doubt that they would punish a TK with proof, after all it isn't good at all to do that, but without proof? Would be too easy to abuse with no way of telling with comms.

That;s why I said discourage rather than punish. Team killing isn't justified. It's pretty much griefing. Squad mode is for playing as a team, not using your buddy as a free loot farmer.

[Six-Foot Turkey]

Jenny eredeti hozzászólása:

Six-Foot Turkey eredeti hozzászólása:

That;s why I said discourage rather than punish. Team killing isn't justified. It's pretty much griefing. Squad mode is for playing as a team, not using your buddy as a free loot farmer.

"Team killing isn't justified" I would argue otherwise. Why should three, two, or one person/people put up with a brat whos talking down to them? Squad is for playing as a team, you're not a team player if you're running your mouth. Ontop of that, you can't discourage anyone from doing anything without a punishment, and the way the game currently is, theres no way to properly punish someone. Again, as i said in a previous post, if by some way every team you get into is griefing you, rather than having a reason to actually get you out of the game, record it and report it. I'll stick to my statement that if you're causing issues over comm with a queued group, you deserve what you get. If you get "griefed" every game, i can make the safe assumption you either don't stick with the team and try to do your own thing, or you run your mouth over comm. Both ways, you're not an actual team player, and don't need to be queueing for teams.

Who said anything about running their mouth? Why give players the option to join random squad matches if squads of 3 can just kill the extra member? EVERY single time I get team killed it's when THEY don't respond to ME via voice chat. I can see it coming a mile away, they stay silent because they're in a skype chat with their buddies.

You CAN discourage it without punishment. I suggested offering more points if you inflict less damage on your own team. Something to reward teamplay. I guess I'll assume you're one of those players that goes on to kill his own team mates for the free loot if that's how we're playing.

[Six-Foot Turkey]

Jenny eredeti hozzászólása:

Six-Foot Turkey eredeti hozzászólása:

Who said anything about running their mouth? Why give players the option to join random squad matches if squads of 3 can just kill the extra member? EVERY single time I get team killed it's when THEY don't respond to ME via voice chat. I can see it coming a mile away, they stay silent because they're in a skype chat with their buddies.

You CAN discourage it without punishment. I suggested offering more points if you inflict less damage on your own team. Something to reward teamplay. I guess I'll assume you're one of those players that goes on to kill his own team mates for the free loot if that's how we're playing.

Clearly you haven't read anything i've posted before, atleast not fully. Perhaps read what I said about RECORDING it and sending it to them, with your mic queued showing you trying to talk to them and them staying quiet then just randomly killing you. I have serious doubts about your accusations. Also, I hate to tell you this, but there is no requirement to have to respond to you, if you get upset because they aren't responding to you, that's just petty.

TLDR ; if this happens sooo often for you, record your games and send it in to support. If you can't manage to do this, then it's just fishy that it happens so often.

Oh I read it. Maybe I will try your suggestion, but I doubt anything will be done about it. It's clear a lot of people are all for team killing in this game, and I and some others are in the minority. There's no requirement to respond to me, no, you're right. but that doesn't mean they're in the right to team kill me either. Also, nobody said anything about getting upset now did they? Maybe it's YOU who should read things more carefully.

[Para]

I'm with OP on this, was well into a match, had some really good gear. 2 squadmates. One died in a killzone, the other hopped a vehicle, came to me, ran me over, then got out of shot me in the head. That's some crap. I could not find any way to report him either.

[Six-Foot Turkey]

Jenny eredeti hozzászólása:

Also lets take your idea and put it into an actual four man queue, your buddy steps out infront of your shot, clearly not intentional, your suggestion is shooting a teammate should get your punished by removing some BP at the end of the game(gaining would be dumb, so i'm going to correct that for you), how much do you remove? 5% for the first shot? Or will it be based on how much health you lose, causing an accidental headshot to then drop your points drastically?

Now lets say that instead of simply hitting, you have to DOWN the person. Your buddies low, accidental fire in a cross fire, damn, there goes some BP you should have had.

Now lets say your buddy fully dcs, so you -kill- them, you're now at not only a team loss, but a BP loss as well because your friend dced and you didn't want to let someone possibly get free items for no reason.

There are sooooo many issues with the method you're talking about. You can be so heavily punished for accidents or DCs. This is what you don't seem to comprehend, you're just upset and want retribution without thinking about what the possible consequences could be.

I really don't know why you seem to think I'm upset. You do a lot of assuming. I would suggest offering the team that don't inflict damage on their team mates extra points. That way, if you do shoot your buddy, you're not losing points, you just don't get the extra. Anyway, I'm not a dev, I'll just wait to see change.

[Diversion]

Mara- eredeti hozzászólása:

Dude, just get discord, you're showing yourself to be a poor teammate if you don't offer to join their comms. PUBG have a reddit group on Discord with 13000 members that are constnatly looking to play, hope you find a way to enjoy the game <3

Can you please link me to this?

[Six-Foot Turkey]

Also, if there is an option for squads of 3 to join as a team of 3, there's no reason to be joining 4-man squad mode and killing you're last team mate.

[Gak]

dont play with randoms...fixed

[Six-Foot Turkey]

Jenny eredeti hozzászólása:

Six-Foot Turkey eredeti hozzászólása:

I really don't know why you seem to think I'm upset. You do a lot of assuming. I would suggest offering the team that don't inflict damage on their team mates extra points. That way, if you do shoot your buddy, you're not losing points, you just don't get the extra. Anyway, I'm not a dev, I'll just wait to see change.

you ARE losing points though, because thats points you should have had if no accident happened. It's the same as just removing points for shots. EITHER WAY, YOU LOSE POINTS. how is this hard to comprehend? And you are upset, you're upset you got teamkilled, and that is completely understandable. But you don't really have the ability to actually see the issues that an implementation like you're suggesting causes, and that's a bigger issue than you being TKed.

I'm not upset. I'm discussing something that I think is a problem in the game. How does that make me upset? Leaving and joining a game isn't hard, I've played many entertaining games with random people to forget about it, but it still doesn't justify people killingt their teammates. Especially if there's an option to join as a team of 3. And And yes I do understand it, it's not a great fix to the problem. But like I said, It's not my job to come up with the fix. That's the dev's job.

[Oilers Fan]

I've played alot and only been TK like twice, This community is better then most IMO

[Six-Foot Turkey]

Jenny eredeti hozzászólása:

Six-Foot Turkey eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm not upset. I'm discussing something that I think is a problem in the game. How does that make me upset? Leaving and joining a game isn't hard, I've played many entertaining games with random people to forget about it, but it still doesn't justify people killingt their teammates. Especially if there's an option to join as a team of 3. And And yes I do understand it, it's not a great fix to the problem. But like I said, It's not my job to come up with the fix. That's the dev's job.

A devs job is also to take suggestions from players and implement it, which is why I wanted to explain the issues with your implementation. Also if you've forget about it, why complain? That would mean it doesn't happen enough to be an actual issue.. which just brings us into a circle as to what i had said earlier...

Para Wolf eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm with OP on this, was well into a match, had some really good gear. 2 squadmates. One died in a killzone, the other hopped a vehicle, came to me, ran me over, then got out of shot me in the head. That's some crap. I could not find any way to report him either.

i'm actually saddened that your first or second game was crappy like that, it's not a common thing, so don't give up. :)

Because why do it?

[Six-Foot Turkey]

Jenny eredeti hozzászólása:

Six-Foot Turkey eredeti hozzászólása:

Because why do it?

One thing that was stated earlier is a lot of people just straight up don't know theres an option for stopping random people from joining. I didn't know about it, none of my friends knew about it, it isn't exactly overly obvious. If there was a better way to show players that that's an actual option, it would drop the TKs due to wanting to play as 3 down a MASSIVE amount. Granted massive of something that doesn't happen very often isn't much, but the more people actually know of this option, the better.

Agreed.