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Plasma May 15, 2018 @ 6:00am
Please Fix Oleander
Please give Oleander back. Twilight was my main back in fighting is magic, after downloading this game and finding out that Oleander was the same thing as twilight, my mind blow up. After this update, Oleander is not the same.

My last fight with a velvet was horrible, she keeps spamming ranged attacks making me impossible to charge magic. It was impossible to approach her.

If you're not gonna fix Oleander teleport, I suggest that one bar of magic should be filled if she gets hit from 3 consecutives ranged attacks, to avoid spam.

Matchs agains velvets are a headache.
Last edited by Plasma; May 15, 2018 @ 6:00am
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HeartClock May 15, 2018 @ 6:52am 
Just a silly question...are you aware Ollie can do ranged attacks as well?

Oleander is fine as she is. And in case you did not understand why teleport costs her a magic bar now, it's because it was becoming ridiculous. You could spam teleport as you wish.

If you know how to time it right, you can quickly gain magic by pressing D (it also works in mid-air) and then quickly block Velvet's attack. And then press D again and etc...

She's not broken. Just keep casting fel sparks like Velvet uses her icicles and snowflakes. And then look for an opportunity to gain magic. If characters like Arizona can still approach her, then Oleander can too. You just need to know how to.
SKULL /)*(\ PONY May 15, 2018 @ 6:54am 
Teleportation is very useful, in other games, teleportation is free, and it is easy to punish. Also when you read the book you are helpless and when you stop reading it takes 0.5 second to re-answer
Last edited by SKULL /)*(\ PONY; May 15, 2018 @ 6:54am
Plasma May 15, 2018 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by HeartClock:
Just a silly question...are you aware Ollie can do ranged attacks as well?

Oleander is fine as she is. And in case you did not understand why teleport costs her a magic bar now, it's because it was becoming ridiculous. You could spam teleport as you wish.

If you know how to time it right, you can quickly gain magic by pressing D (it also works in mid-air) and then quickly block Velvet's attack. And then press D again and etc...

She's not broken. Just keep casting fel sparks like Velvet uses her icicles and snowflakes. And then look for an opportunity to gain magic. If characters like Arizona can still approach her, then Oleander can too. You just need to know how to.

But don't you think It would be good idea for Oleander to get one bar of magic if she hit by 3 consecutive ranged attacks?
Plasma May 15, 2018 @ 7:15am 
By the way. The teleport can be nerfed in other way. Like, increase the cooldown or just increase the time that you can attack after the teleport
Plasma May 15, 2018 @ 7:16am 
I guess that I will have to main paprika
Last edited by Plasma; May 15, 2018 @ 7:16am
HeartClock May 15, 2018 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by GoldenCarrot:
Originally posted by HeartClock:
Just a silly question...are you aware Ollie can do ranged attacks as well?

Oleander is fine as she is. And in case you did not understand why teleport costs her a magic bar now, it's because it was becoming ridiculous. You could spam teleport as you wish.

If you know how to time it right, you can quickly gain magic by pressing D (it also works in mid-air) and then quickly block Velvet's attack. And then press D again and etc...

She's not broken. Just keep casting fel sparks like Velvet uses her icicles and snowflakes. And then look for an opportunity to gain magic. If characters like Arizona can still approach her, then Oleander can too. You just need to know how to.

But don't you think It would be good idea for Oleander to get one bar of magic if she hit by 3 consecutive ranged attacks?

No, that would be stupid. It would make things way too easy and then, reading the book would be pointless. Players would volontarily get hit 3 times just to approach the opponent, which would lead to Velvets getting hit in both cases because either they would stop using ranged attacks, allowing you to approach them, or they would keep trying to hit you, giving you a magic bar to approach them too. It would not really fair for the Velvets. At least, that's what I think.

Also, keep in mind that not all Velvets are that good. I am a Velvet-main and I have a bit of trouble remaining consistent with my icicles and keeping Oleander away. Most of the time being because Oleander would keep reading her book in mid-air, and sometimes my icicles would just miss her as she would position herself so that she would "dodge" it while reading the book.

Velvet cannot spam snowflakes eternally and it takes a bit of time for her to create icicles. You don't need the "3 hit by opponent = free magic bar" thing because, again, you just need to time your actions right. It's easier once you get it.
Last edited by HeartClock; May 15, 2018 @ 7:18am
Plasma May 15, 2018 @ 7:20am 
okay
HeartClock May 15, 2018 @ 7:24am 
Originally posted by GoldenCarrot:
By the way. The teleport can be nerfed in other way. Like, increase the cooldown or just increase the time that you can attack after the teleport

That would not help at all. If she cannot attack immediately after teleporting, then her teleport is useless except when teleporting away from the opponent, because then it would be easier for the opponent to punish her.



Originally posted by GoldenCarrot:
I guess that I will have to main paprika

Players that abandon their current main to main a different character just because they don't like the changes and cannot get used to it kinda make me laugh. If you train real hard with Oleander, you can handle pretty much every situations. Training and patience pay off.
Last edited by HeartClock; May 15, 2018 @ 7:24am
Astral May 20, 2018 @ 5:07pm 
There was a tournament yesterday and the winner of it played Oleander.
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