Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 2

Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 2

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Machacasaurio 2021 年 9 月 22 日 上午 7:40
beginner friendly RTS?
compared to what's out there (DoWs, AOE2, TWs,SD etc..)
will you recommend this game as an introduction to RTS?

i was reading in the DoW 3 page and i came across this
"This is a poor RTS to be re-introduced to especially considering the MOBA-style elements. It's like a heavy micro-management version of DOTA or LoL and a poor game all round.
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"DOW 3 plays so fast with a heavy micro intense experience."

therte is a whole post about why/how that's a bad game for beginners compared to other stuff available on the market.

and BGA2 was already my first choice,so what makes BFGA2 good/bad/in between and how it compares to other RTS?
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[VI] Skalgrim Fellaxe 2021 年 9 月 22 日 上午 11:43 
Its a naval strategy game, or a naval RTS, not an RTS in the regular sense. This is a game with massive ships hurling bolts of energy and mass reactive rounds the size of busses and houses at each other, all in the grim dark setting of 40k.
最后由 [VI] Skalgrim Fellaxe 编辑于; 2021 年 9 月 22 日 上午 11:44
Error3000 2021 年 9 月 22 日 上午 11:48 
the PvE aspect I think is quit beginner friendly, you can stop, slow or quicken the flow of time as you desire, the abilities can be used either by clicking them or using a hotkey and your fleet composition dictates how micro-management heavy your fleet will be (some factions are generally more micro-intensive while others may be very calm in that sense)

additionally you can make almost anything work against the AI so you wont have to set up specific ship combinations or anything like that
rubyismycat 2021 年 10 月 31 日 下午 7:42 
this game is broken buggy and abandoned buy literally any other game
invi 2021 年 11 月 2 日 下午 3:10 
Yeah, for RTS intro I'd definitely advise something more like Company of Heroes 2 or the original Dawn of War.
B00KerDeWitt 2021 年 11 月 8 日 下午 5:51 
Here are some options of RTS and strategy games. I'm a casual player, so I'm not aiming for "competitiveness", just campaign and skirmsh. I think that you can choose the hystoric era and the gameplay style that suits you.

1. Starcraft 2 - for *FREE* on Battle.net (don't like to play online, because it relies too much on actions per minute for competitive, just comp stomps and campaign)
2. AOE 2 - Simple and fun. I prefer Age of Mythology because of unity variety.
3. DOW 1 Soulstorm or Dark Crusade - If you like Warhammer games, units dealing the last killing blow and to play skirmish.
4. Warcraft 3 - Classic: One of the best rts games ever. DO NOT BUY REFORGED
5. Homeworld Remastered - for one of the best campaigns and space ships battles - Not beginner friendly, 3D space makes everything difficult to maneuver and made everything strange.
(bonus: HW: Deserts of Kharak, beautiful game and with a very good campaign too. It is much more beginner friendly, but with a bad AI for skirmish)
6. Sins of Solar Empire Rebellion - A little bit of RTS with 4X elements. Simple and fun to play against AI. Space battles are simple, but fun. Mods.
7. Company of Heroes 1 or 2 - Bad AI for skirmish, but fun comp stomp skirmsh gameplay. Ardennes Assault campaign is very good.
8. Ashes of Singularity Escalation - A simpler supreme commander, with good AI (compared to all the other rts that i've played). I didn't played supreme commander but everybody says it is good :)

Some games I played before I've downloaded Steam. I had the "pirated version" for homeworld, DoW, AOE2 and CoH1. Because I couldn't find these games on my country and I didn't had money for them.

I've played DOW3 for 90h - Played it online mostly, for comp stomps, but I don't recommend it. Relic/SEGA abandoned it. I think they needed to aim more for the DoW1 or Warcraft 3 gameplay style.

Bonus:
Spellforce 3 Versus - For free too
Tooth and Tail - Simple and fun rts to play on split screen
Total War Shogun 2 - Fun strategy game and the best TW
Shiva 2021 年 11 月 8 日 下午 11:04 
引用自 rubyismycat
this game is broken buggy and abandoned buy literally any other game

This.

Normally I try to avoid making statements like the above, but in this case, that sums it up.

You'd have to be incredibly lucky to be able to play this without crashing constantly. Not to mention that the combat isn't all that engaging to be honest. I do like the style, but its kind of 'meh', even on a good day when compared to literally any other RTS combat style.

I honestly can't come up with a reason why I would want to buy this game knowing what I know now. I only hop on it every so often in the hopes that they've fixed at least 1 or 2 out of the hundreds of different crashes/bugs that plague this game.

The answer is always no.
[VI] Skalgrim Fellaxe 2021 年 11 月 9 日 上午 11:19 
引用自 CuddilyWuddily
This game is not an rts. Game is sooooo slow. It takes forever to take out one ship. And it's sooooo small. You control like... 6 ships.

... or you can play modded and control ten times that. ;)
STC 2021 年 11 月 12 日 下午 8:03 
引用自 VI Skalgrim Fellaxe
引用自 CuddilyWuddily
This game is not an rts. Game is sooooo slow. It takes forever to take out one ship. And it's sooooo small. You control like... 6 ships.

... or you can play modded and control ten times that. ;)

Yes if you absolutely have to play it your mods are an absolute must! Thanks for making the Campaign bearable.

Generally for a beginner this is not it. It is not a classic RTS, but more of a specialist thing, and will likely only work out for you if you are into spaceships and Warhammer 40k in general.

With regards to spaceship, and if you absolutely want to play a spaceship battle game, Battlestar Galactica Deadlock is worth a look IMHO.
STC 2021 年 11 月 12 日 下午 8:04 
引用自 B00KerDeWitt
Here are some options of RTS and strategy games. I'm a casual player, so I'm not aiming for "competitiveness", just campaign and skirmsh. I think that you can choose the hystoric era and the gameplay style that suits you.

1. Starcraft 2 - for *FREE* on Battle.net (don't like to play online, because it relies too much on actions per minute for competitive, just comp stomps and campaign)
2. AOE 2 - Simple and fun. I prefer Age of Mythology because of unity variety.
3. DOW 1 Soulstorm or Dark Crusade - If you like Warhammer games, units dealing the last killing blow and to play skirmish.
4. Warcraft 3 - Classic: One of the best rts games ever. DO NOT BUY REFORGED
5. Homeworld Remastered - for one of the best campaigns and space ships battles - Not beginner friendly, 3D space makes everything difficult to maneuver and made everything strange.
(bonus: HW: Deserts of Kharak, beautiful game and with a very good campaign too. It is much more beginner friendly, but with a bad AI for skirmish)
6. Sins of Solar Empire Rebellion - A little bit of RTS with 4X elements. Simple and fun to play against AI. Space battles are simple, but fun. Mods.
7. Company of Heroes 1 or 2 - Bad AI for skirmish, but fun comp stomp skirmsh gameplay. Ardennes Assault campaign is very good.
8. Ashes of Singularity Escalation - A simpler supreme commander, with good AI (compared to all the other rts that i've played). I didn't played supreme commander but everybody says it is good :)

Some games I played before I've downloaded Steam. I had the "pirated version" for homeworld, DoW, AOE2 and CoH1. Because I couldn't find these games on my country and I didn't had money for them.

I've played DOW3 for 90h - Played it online mostly, for comp stomps, but I don't recommend it. Relic/SEGA abandoned it. I think they needed to aim more for the DoW1 or Warcraft 3 gameplay style.

Bonus:
Spellforce 3 Versus - For free too
Tooth and Tail - Simple and fun rts to play on split screen
Total War Shogun 2 - Fun strategy game and the best TW

I have played supreme commander and consider it a great RTS game. Supreme Commander 2 sadly was a bit lacking, but still bearable, it just lacked all of the depth of the first installation.
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