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Alessandro Silva έχει το Stormworks: Build and Rescue

31 Μαρ 2018, 8:13

What is the point of higher gear ratios for pivots and hinges?

Using higher gear ratios on robotic components such as pivots seem to make them both weaker and slower. Shouldn't it instead be a trade-off where one gives the component more torque and the other higher speed?

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Tajin

3 Απρ 2018, 5:34

No, it makes them slower but stronger.

Alessandro Silva έχει το Stormworks: Build and Rescue

3 Απρ 2018, 6:17

I tested it, higher gear ratios makes them both slower and weaker. You can test it yourself: Make a 9x9 ramp mounted on a compact pivot on a corner edge. Try to make the pivot hold an angle that keeps the ramp suspended parallel to the ground. A 1:1 pivot will hold the ramp firmly even as you get up on the ramp and jump on it while a 1:32 won't even be able to hold the ramp parallel without any extra weight on top of it.

Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Alessandro Silva; 3 Απρ 2018, 6:25

Tajin

3 Απρ 2018, 7:49

you're saying very litte about how you're testing it though

velocity pivots or robotic ones ?
are PIDs involved or static input ?

In my tests (using a -1 input for all of them), the 1:32 could lift weights where the 1:1 wouldnt even budge.

Alessandro Silva έχει το Stormworks: Build and Rescue

3 Απρ 2018, 10:37

I tested it with direct input from throttle levers and the "numerical" logic component, some passing through numerical switch boxes. I used them for the ramp and doors on this aircraft:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1350929013

The doors and ramps are all set to the 1:1 ratio and they perform much better like that, if you set them to 1:32 they will be visibly much weaker.

Kopfman_2731 έχει το Stormworks: Build and Rescue

19 Ιουν 2018, 11:17

I had the same experience as you: 1:1 ratio gear moves quickly and with a lot of force, 1:32 ratio gear moves very slowly and with very little force. Could this a bug?

RoboJon [δημιουργός] 20 Ιουν 2018, 0:02

The higher ratios should be slower and more powerful, and the lower ones should be faster but weaker. It sounds like this still isn't working correctly or there's a bug that stops it from working in some situations.

Kopfman_2731 έχει το Stormworks: Build and Rescue

20 Ιουν 2018, 2:20

Thank you very much for your reply RoboJon

Ardy LvX

5 Σεπ 2018, 13:37

This is still very much a problem...

Stale Baguette έχει το Stormworks: Build and Rescue

18 Απρ 2021, 13:33

it's still broken for me, on most cases, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. very randomly starts working or not

Stale Baguette έχει το Stormworks: Build and Rescue

18 Απρ 2021, 13:54

i got it working(randomly), but whenever i anchor myself to the ground with mag-alls in order to not flip when lifting stuff, the hinges just die

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Stale Baguette έχει το Stormworks: Build and Rescue

18 Απρ 2021, 14:05

and whenever im not sitting on the vehicle it also stops working

edit: only sometimes

Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Stale Baguette; 18 Απρ 2021, 14:06

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Jaka

22 Απρ 2021, 8:11

Pivots, and other multiobject connecting stuff just seems too have issues .

Trying too build a crawler.
Randomly not rotating, getting stuck, object having odd elasticity too movements, etc.
But lifting 2 containers from 40m away, well i guess its working

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