"Photo Sensitivity Warning"

[Torx]

Wha the heck is wrong with the people? 0.0

Man, and I thought AAA could keep its crap to itsself. I'm reading the same non-sense in Doom, too. -.-

[Torx]

Correct me if I’m wrong. But this warning is useless, because a mere warning won’t change one’s sensitivity. And if such health issues are known to a person already, then they already know what to do. Those who don’t know what to do, and must be told to stop playing when they feel like crap. Well, if it ain’t obvious what to do when you feel bad. Then frankly, it’s time you payed the consequences for being dumb. :/

This warning looks like a Bard Simpson scenario to me. To prevent kids from electrocuting themselves all over again. Since hamsters are superior to ♥♥♥♥ sapiens these days. :)

[Almea]

Yeah, why put something like a photosensitivity warning before games? Let's remove epilepsy warnings too, just let people get seizures ._.

[Torx]

Originally posted by Billy Mays:

Yeah, why put something like a photosensitivity warning before games? Let's remove epilepsy warnings too, just let people get seizures ._.

This requires medication, and not a warning. Also healty people don't just get seizures.

Also, read this again:

Originally posted by SouldomainTM:

But this warning is useless, because a mere warning won’t change one’s sensitivity. And if such health issues are known to a person already, then they already know what to do. Those who don’t know what to do, and must be told to stop playing when they feel like crap. Well, if it ain’t obvious what to do when you feel bad.

You have provided zero argument, in the first place. Unless you really thought that people could get seizures just like that. Which is false.

[SodaDrinker69]

dear steam discussion forums user "SouldomainTM,"

photosensitive epilepsy is a neurological disorder that causes the person suffering from it to experience seizures when exposed to flashing light and patterns. there is no cure for PSE. many, many video games and video game consoles include photosensitive epilepsy warnings with varying degrees of visibility, extremely frequently they appear in game manuals. these warnings are mainly implemented to protect developers and publishers from legal recourse. also, you're a total dumbass for being bothered enough by a 1 second long splash screen intended to assist people suffering from seizures to write multiple paragraphs about why it's bad to have compassion for people suffering from neurological disorders.

love,
shirigaruonna

[Torx]

Originally posted by shirigaruonna!:

also, you're a total dumbass for being bothered enough by a 1 second long splash screen intended to assist people suffering from seizures to write multiple paragraphs about why it's bad to have compassion for people suffering from neurological disorders.

I didn't say that I don't want to see it, because I just don't like it. I said that it's pointless for the group in question in the first place.

If you are already incapable of reading a simple English sentence, and fail to understand its meaning. Then don't call other people a dumbass. By the way. An English sentence starts with an upper-case letter. You are not in position to point with the finger here, boy. Oh, no, wait. It’s “not important”. Get out! -.-

Originally posted by shirigaruonna!:

many, many video games and video game consoles include photosensitive epilepsy warnings with varying degrees of visibility, extremely frequently they appear in game manuals. these warnings are mainly implemented to protect developers and publishers from legal recourse.

Source? Because it's nonsense. This warning is to be expected by default for ALL games, because any game may cause this. And the ill person knows that already from their doctor. There is no point to actually show it in-game again. Unless you got this illness, and never went to informed yourself about it.

[SodaDrinker69]

Originally posted by SouldomainTM:

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you literally said that people don't get seizures "just like that" and that PSE can be treated with medication, neither of which are true, and you're grilling me for a "source" on the fact that many video games and consoles have a photosensitive epilepsy warning included which can be checked by opening the case for any nintendo video game or typing "photosensitive epilepsy warning" into google and clicking the first result which is xbox.com's page dedicated to the subject lmao you truly are a dumbass

[Torx]

Originally posted by shirigaruonna!:

Originally posted by SouldomainTM:

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you literally said that people don't get seizures "just like that" and that PSE can be treated with medication, neither of which are true, and you're grilling me for a "source" on the fact that many video games and consoles have a photosensitive epilepsy warning included which can be checked by opening the case for any nintendo video game or typing "photosensitive epilepsy warning" into google and clicking the first result which is xbox.com's page dedicated to the subject lmao you truly are a dumbass

You are such a waste of time… Regarding the source, I’m referring to an actual law. Because without law, no law suit.

Yes, seizures can be treated with medication. Time that you learned how to use the interwebs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy#Treatment_and_prognosis

Originally posted by shirigaruonna!:

Originally posted by SouldomainTM:

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you literally said that people don't get seizures "just like that" and that PSE can be treated with medication, neither of which are true

Yes, healthy people don’t get seizures. That’s why they are “healthy”. And since I didn’t say “sick people”, obviously I do mean healthy, so normal people.

Originally posted by shirigaruonna!:

Originally posted by SouldomainTM:

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you truly are a dumbass

Says the one who doesn’t understand, that an English sentence, also got punctuation. You are not in the position to point with fingers here, kid. You can’t even use Wiki. Which tells me, that even Wiki is smarter than you are. -.-

[Torx]

By the way. The screen literaly shows for 1 second. Even if I wanted to read the text below, I couldn't. 0.o

[SodaDrinker69]

Originally posted by SouldomainTM:

Yes, seizures can be treated with medication. Time that you learned how to use the interwebs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy#Treatment_and_prognosis

reduction of sensitivity is not a treatment of seizures you reprobate

[Torx]

Originally posted by shirigaruonna!:

Originally posted by SouldomainTM:

Yes, seizures can be treated with medication. Time that you learned how to use the interwebs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy#Treatment_and_prognosis

reduction of sensitivity is not a treatment of seizures you reprobate

A seizure is caused by sensitivity… or to be more accurate, by over sensitivity. Hence the name "Photosensitive" Epilepsy.

From the same Wiki page: "Medical treatment is available to reduce sensitivity, with sodium valproate being commonly prescribed. Patients can also learn to avoid situations in which they might be exposed to stimuli that trigger seizures and/or take steps to diminish their sensitivity (as by covering one eye) if they are unavoidably exposed"

Also, you didn’t explain why it’s not the same. So, you got no argument. As usual. -.-

[SodaDrinker69]

once again, there is no treatment for seizures, no matter how far you want to move those goalposts

[Torx]

Originally posted by shirigaruonna!:

once again, there is no treatment for seizures, no matter how far you want to move those goalposts

Here, education for you:

"How Is Photosensitive Epilepsy Treated?
There is no cure for photosensitive epilepsy. However, anti-epileptic medicines may reduce the frequency of seizures. People with photosensitive epilepsy can also reduce the likelihood of having a seizure by avoiding stimuli that could trigger a seizure. If you are inadvertently exposed to a trigger, cover one eye completely and turn your head away from the source of disturbance."

Source: http://www.webmd.com/epilepsy/guide/photosensitive-epilepsy-symptoms-causes-treatment#2

Bottom line. You don't even understand what the word "treament" means. Here, more education for you: treamnent -> "3. management in the application of medicines, surgery, etc. "

Source: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/treatment

[Torx]

By the way. I know that you are trolling. However, while you are busy demonstrating that you don't have constructive comments, or education. I learned a few things about the issue here. And, I'm sure other did, too.

So, as I suspected. There is plenty that one can do to prevent, or lower the chances for a seizure. Ranging from medication, to simple things like keeping larger distance to the monitor. Or looking away from the monitor, and holding one eye closed.

[EsQueue]

PLEASE let this damn thread die. It didn't deserve a response in the first place.

[Boink]

Originally posted by SouldomainTM:

Correct me if I’m wrong.

You're wrong.

A) Photosensitive epilepsy cannot be caused by computer games (or TV or flickering lights): it can, however, be triggered by such games, creating episodes in the viewer. Industry Consumer groups such as PEGI lobby to have warnings placed on products that might induce such conditions[1].

B) It is a legal requirement in some countries (mostly EU) to display a VGS warning and most major publishers / platforms (e.g.Xbox[2]) display a warning at some point: usually during a loading screen or on the game packaging (since Steamworld Dig 2 is digital only, it comes on the loading screen). Since this game has been ported to the Nintendo Switch[3], you're probably seeing it due to a contractual requirement from Nintendo themselves; they are very sensitive to negative press surrounding this matter, as it was a major scandal a while ago[4].

C) VGS is the accepted phrase for this condition: Video Game-Induced Seizures[5]

[1] http://www.pegi.info/en/index/id/34/

[2] https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/console/photosensitive-seizure-warning

[3] https://www.nintendo.com/consumer/manuals/precautions_console_pak_english.jsp

[4] https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/news/bbc-nintendo-knew-about-games-triggering-seizures

[5] http://www.epilepsy.com/learn/professionals/about-epilepsy-seizures/reflex-seizures-and-related-epileptic-syndromes/video

So, yes: drop the attitude, learn something before pretending you're "educating" anyone.

Originally posted by SouldomainTM:

Man, and I thought AAA could keep its crap to itsself. I'm reading the same non-sense in Doom, too. -.-

If you had half a brain, you'd perhaps consider that this was due to Consumer Protection Laws, not your mewling attempts at political sniping ("snowflakes").


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