Ashen lake no lord vessel?

[Pawlogates]

What happens when you get to the end of this area not having obtained the lord vessel warp ability beforehand? Would I really have to back track all that way...? Or is there some alternative scenario?

[Lumina]

There is no other way to travel back without Lord Vessel, just a looong walk.
But that's only difficult for new players, I did this several times with no issues.

[Pawlogates]

It wouldnt be difficult, just insanely tedious and I cant believe devs made it a possibility... even if its quite rare.

[EleventhStar]

if you don't use any of the bonfires you can just homeward bone after you get the sword/covenant stuff.

[Jeffery2048]

I like that it's possible to be stuck down there as a consequence of your own curiosity, I think that kind of stuff sets DS apart and makes it memorable. The problem is that the walkways that you use to go back up the tree are very glitchy and you'll slide off even when you shouldn't just like some other sloping terrain in the game.

So it's a cool challenge but it's very messy in execution.

[Preacher]

Originally posted by Jeffery2048:

I like that it's possible to be stuck down there as a consequence of your own curiosity, I think that kind of stuff sets DS apart and makes it memorable. The problem is that the walkways that you use to go back up the tree are very glitchy and you'll slide off even when you shouldn't just like some other sloping terrain in the game.

So it's a cool challenge but it's very messy in execution.

I got stuck in the Tomb of the Giants without lord vessel :/

Let's just say it took me a long time IRL to get out

[Rampage]

Originally posted by Preacher:

Originally posted by Jeffery2048:

I like that it's possible to be stuck down there as a consequence of your own curiosity, I think that kind of stuff sets DS apart and makes it memorable. The problem is that the walkways that you use to go back up the tree are very glitchy and you'll slide off even when you shouldn't just like some other sloping terrain in the game.

So it's a cool challenge but it's very messy in execution.

I got stuck in the Tomb of the Giants without lord vessel :/

Let's just say it took me a long time IRL to get out

Same exact thing happened to me on my first playthrough lol. It was so tedious to get out that I wanted to quit the game entirely but I refused to become hollow.

[urabe mikoto]

This happened to me on my first playthrough

[Pawlogates]

What makes me wanna go hollow rn is the fact I just defeated the golden golem that had that catherine warrior's daughter inside but I accidentally attacked her! Also reading up on the wiki the coolest outcome of this quest has insanely specific requirements lmao why

[Lumina]

Originally posted by Pawlogates:

What makes me wanna go hollow rn is the fact I just defeated the golden golem that had that catherine warrior's daughter inside but I accidentally attacked her! Also reading up on the wiki the coolest outcome of this quest has insanely specific requirements lmao why

Did you only attack her or you killed her ? When she is still alive you can try to visit Oswald and ask for absolution.

[Pawlogates]

Oh no... I saved and quit to see if she still agros and after seeing she does I killed her :c but I already got the ring from the warrior when hes in Lost Izalyth so I couldnt make him die near the bonfire in Ash Lake next to his daughter even if I got rid of the sin right? Such a bummer I didnt think of that either way

[Lumina]

Originally posted by Pawlogates:

Oh no... I saved and quit to see if she still agros and after seeing she does I killed her :c but I already got the ring from the warrior when hes in Lost Izalyth so I couldnt make him die near the bonfire in Ash Lake next to his daughter even if I got rid of the sin right? Such a bummer I didnt think of that either way

But that's normal to do some mistakes in a first ( blind) playthrough and fail some NPC questlines. I think it's better to get surprised and figure out such stuff by trial and error without to check the wiki beforehand. You get only one first playthrough and never again, and all this little mistakes will stay in your memory, stuck in Catacombs....murder some NPC or give a "wrong" answer, running in circles searching for a way....you'll never forget. And when you want everything 100% perfect you can always do another run.
Well, I guess you'll have lot of fun in the other Dark Souls games too.

[dcy665]

Is this your first Dark Souls game?

This is actually quite typical for the first one. The later games cater more to the hub version (DS2, with a the similar mechanic to Demon's Souls), and DS3 even quicker as I recall.
Different functionality in the gear (consoles) available, and different expectations for the modern gamer.

[Pawlogates]

Yeah its my first one. I really love my time in the game overall, it felt close to playing Hollow Knight again which is my third favourite game ever, but ds is obviously very unfinished which is such a shame imo cause it couldve been truly fantastic with some minor changes, like minor terrain alterations cause I sometimes get blocked by terrarin in annoying places or slide down and fall randomly... The fact the people who made the remaster havent changed those things is a tragedy as far as Im concerned. Also From soft themselves should have fixed those minor issues if they really cared about their game but I guess making thise minor but impactful changes wouldnt get them more money in the ahort term so why bother? Has from even made any patches after release (except great dlc)? What have they improved in the base game?