What's the point in armor?

[Grantorino]

Seems like no matter how good your armor is, there's always going to be an enemy that ♥♥♥♥♥ you up. I used knight armor in ds3 but moved onto the abyss watchers clothes after that.

[Pseudo]

Armor is most usefull in ds1, poise

[The Great Brambino]

DS3 armor is a joke, heavy armor in this game will protect your ass.

[Mr.Slevin13]

You can literally tank bosses with Havels armor. In ng+ and after its not going to make wonders though, you can still get hit hard.

[Seinkal]

In DS1, the armor is really useful. You can tank a lot of hits wearing a heavy armor. Havel's set is the most bulky, you get it for free and can breeze through all your first playthrough with it. After that, in NG+ everything is going to beat the living hell out of you if you're not careful, but it still helps a lot to tank the area before the boss

[Apathy]

DS1 is the only game where armor and poise exist. In DS1 not only does armor have enough stats to actually protect you but many pieces have bonus abilities like increased stamina regen or more HP. You have to be able to properly build though because a fast roll in DS1 is 25% and not the handholding that is 70%.

[Pseudo]

Originally posted by Apathy:

DS1 is the only game where armor and poise exist. In DS1 not only does armor have enough stats to actually protect you but many pieces have bonus abilities like increased stamina regen or more HP. You have to be able to properly build though because a fast roll in DS1 is 25% and not the handholding that is 70%.

Poise is in ds2, and in 3. They just function differently

[Apathy]

Originally posted by Trilby:

Originally posted by Apathy:

DS1 is the only game where armor and poise exist. In DS1 not only does armor have enough stats to actually protect you but many pieces have bonus abilities like increased stamina regen or more HP. You have to be able to properly build though because a fast roll in DS1 is 25% and not the handholding that is 70%.

Poise is in ds2, and in 3. They just function differently

Poise doesn't exist in DS2 and DS3. Poise only exists in DS1. An entirely different mechanic with the same name exists in DS2 and DS3 but it is not poise.

[Pseudo]

Originally posted by Apathy:

Originally posted by Trilby:

Poise is in ds2, and in 3. They just function differently

Poise doesn't exist in DS2 and DS3. Poise only exists in DS1. An entirely different mechanic with the same name exists in DS2 and DS3 but it is not poise.

Its called poise

[Apathy]

Originally posted by Trilby:

Originally posted by Apathy:

Poise doesn't exist in DS2 and DS3. Poise only exists in DS1. An entirely different mechanic with the same name exists in DS2 and DS3 but it is not poise.

Its called poise

If I tell you that a turtle is called "a dog" would it be a dog?

[Pseudo]

Originally posted by Apathy:

Originally posted by Trilby:

Its called poise

If I tell you that a turtle is called "a dog" would it be a dog?

The stat is literally called poise

[Apathy]

Originally posted by Trilby:

Originally posted by Apathy:

If I tell you that a turtle is called "a dog" would it be a dog?

The stat is literally called poise

And it literally isn't poise. This is why you should start a game series with the first one and not in the middle or at the end.

If poise exists in DS2 and DS3 then show me video footage of you sipping Estus while ignoring stunlock instead of getting knocked out of your sip. If it exists I also would love to see you not getting stunlocked while using a straight sword vs. a dagger user. Please demonstrate your ability to be hit by your opponent and keep attacking without using an Ultra class weapon. I would love to see you get hit while running and not stop in your tracks since you insist poise exists. Since poise exists you surely can just stand there and let your opponent hit you so you can score the easy counter attack.

*edit*

What you have in DS2 and DS3 is a mechanic called Super Armor and/or Hyper Armor. It is not poise because it only works while attacking which is how Super Armor and Hyper Armor function. Poise is an innate thing. I do not have to be attacking for poise to activate. I can literally stand there and let my opponent wail on me and I will not stagger until my poise has been broken.

[Pseudo]

Originally posted by Apathy:

Originally posted by Trilby:

The stat is literally called poise

And it literally isn't poise. This is why you should start a game series with the first one and not in the middle or at the end.

If poise exists in DS2 and DS3 then show me video footage of you sipping Estus while ignoring stunlock instead of getting knocked out of your sip. If it exists I also would love to see you not getting stunlocked while using a straight sword vs. a dagger user. Please demonstrate your ability to be hit by your opponent and keep attacking without using an Ultra class weapon. I would love to see you get hit while running and not stop in your tracks since you insist poise exists. Since poise exists you surely can just stand there and let your opponent hit you so you can score the easy counter attack.

https://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Poise
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Poise
I started with ds1 btw, its there. Its poise. Even if it works differently.
If I handed you a poodle and told you it was a dog, but every dog you've ever seen looks like a German sheperd, does that mean the poodle isn't a dog.

[Apathy]

Originally posted by Trilby:

Originally posted by Apathy:

And it literally isn't poise. This is why you should start a game series with the first one and not in the middle or at the end.

If poise exists in DS2 and DS3 then show me video footage of you sipping Estus while ignoring stunlock instead of getting knocked out of your sip. If it exists I also would love to see you not getting stunlocked while using a straight sword vs. a dagger user. Please demonstrate your ability to be hit by your opponent and keep attacking without using an Ultra class weapon. I would love to see you get hit while running and not stop in your tracks since you insist poise exists. Since poise exists you surely can just stand there and let your opponent hit you so you can score the easy counter attack.

https://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Poise
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Poise
I started with ds1 btw, its there. Its poise. Even if it works differently.
If I handed you a poodle and told you it was a dog, but every dog you've ever seen looks like a German sheperd, does that mean the poodle isn't a dog.

It's not poise. It's Super Armor and sometimes Hyper Armor. Poise is an entirely different mechanic and is only in Dark Souls 1. Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, and Sekiro all do not have poise.

[Pseudo]

Originally posted by Apathy:

Originally posted by Trilby:

https://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Poise
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Poise
I started with ds1 btw, its there. Its poise. Even if it works differently.
If I handed you a poodle and told you it was a dog, but every dog you've ever seen looks like a German sheperd, does that mean the poodle isn't a dog.

It's not poise. It's Super Armor and sometimes Hyper Armor. Poise is an entirely different mechanic and is only in Dark Souls 1. Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, and Sekiro all do not have poise.

But its literally called poise. Did you read the wiki

[Apathy]

Originally posted by Trilby:

Originally posted by Apathy:

It's not poise. It's Super Armor and sometimes Hyper Armor. Poise is an entirely different mechanic and is only in Dark Souls 1. Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, and Sekiro all do not have poise.

But its literally called poise. Did you read the wiki

If it isn't innate it's not poise. No matter what you say to spam and derail this thread only DS1 had poise.