Crystal Cave is making me not want to finish the game...

[Luxy Wants Big Boom]

(EDIT: I've already gotten Seath over with. Try reading comments sometime.)


"Invisible floors, yay!!" - No one ever
I'm beginning to think Fromsoft's level designers started crapping out
after Anor Londo. I haven't even been very far into the Crystal Cave and it's already pushing just about every level design button I have. As if the Great Hollow wasn't bad enough, now we have even more slippery terrain, HP sponge enemies and invisible floors where the snowflakes stop spawning after a couple of ramps in...
I've tried arrows and Prism Stones; they don't seem to help at all. Seriously Fromsoft, what the actual hell? Who seriously and earnestly thought this was a good idea?? People give the Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith crap and granted, they are bad, but this is so much worse.

[Apathy]

It's not worse lol. You're just bad at this game and aren't very observant. I've never heard someone wasting arrows to see the invisible floors before. New players typically use the Prism Stones. Btw the snow never stops spawning so it sounds like somehow you can barely run this game and ran out of VRAM. In any event the secret to that area is: git gud.

[Luxy Wants Big Boom]

Originally posted by Apathy:

It's not worse lol. You're just bad at this game and aren't very observant. I've never heard someone wasting arrows to see the invisible floors before. New players typically use the Prism Stones. Btw the snow never stops spawning so it sounds like somehow you can barely run this game and ran out of VRAM. In any event the secret to that area is: git gud.

.....
You're new to the Internet, aren't you?

[Apathy]

Originally posted by Lux the Electrifying:

Originally posted by Apathy:

It's not worse lol. You're just bad at this game and aren't very observant. I've never heard someone wasting arrows to see the invisible floors before. New players typically use the Prism Stones. Btw the snow never stops spawning so it sounds like somehow you can barely run this game and ran out of VRAM. In any event the secret to that area is: git gud.

.....
You're new to the Internet, aren't you?

No but you're new to the Soulsborne series and it's hilarious. Crystal Caves is easy because you don't have to fight a single enemy and you can just run the same path every time. The only risk you have is that the Oysters might get into the boss fight with Seathe because there isn't a fog wall until you trigger the cutscene.

Don't worry kid eventually you'll git gud enough to get through the easiest area in DS1.

[Luxy Wants Big Boom]

Originally posted by Apathy:

Originally posted by Lux the Electrifying:

.....
You're new to the Internet, aren't you?

No but you're new to the Soulsborne series and it's hilarious. Crystal Caves is easy because you don't have to fight a single enemy and you can just run the same path every time. The only risk you have is that the Oysters might get into the boss fight with Seathe because there isn't a fog wall until you trigger the cutscene.

Don't worry kid eventually you'll git gud enough to get through the easiest area in DS1.

Good to know. Go be an obnoxious turd elsewhere.

[DracoFire]

Originally posted by Lux the Electrifying:

"Invisible floors, yay!!" - No one ever
I'm beginning to think Fromsoft's level designers started crapping out
after Anor Londo. I haven't even been very far into the Crystal Cave and it's already pushing just about every level design button I have. As if the Great Hollow wasn't bad enough, now we have even more slippery terrain, HP sponge enemies and invisible floors where the snowflakes stop spawning after a couple of ramps in...
I've tried arrows and Prism Stones; they don't seem to help at all. Seriously Fromsoft, what the actual hell? Who seriously and earnestly thought this was a good idea?? People give the Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith crap and granted, they are bad, but this is so much worse.

Dude...they are straight paths, there is only one HP sponge that you actually need to kill, and the slippery terrain is easily avoidable.

[The Fluffiest Fluffy Floofer]

It's honestly the easiest area.....

[Luxy Wants Big Boom]

Okay, someone actually said something without being a butt. Thank you.
From what I can tell after experimenting a little, you have to go through some of said terrain to proceed the right way. The lower path is just a dead end with another HP sponge and an item I'll probably never use.
Honestly, the fact that there's next to nothing here to fight just makes it worse... Even the only enemy in the place that posed a real obstacle just jumped off and robbed me of any fun. How does a level pull off being both a silly gimmick and boring?
Even Seath was kind of a snooze fest once I figured out what to so. Granted, the Demon Ruins are a big empty hole full of easy carbon-copy enemies but at least there there's stuff to do. I'm kind of disappointed; the Duke's Archives were neat to look at.

[Luxy Wants Big Boom]

You're a little late but thanks for the tip. In anycase I didn't bother with his tail; from what I can tell I probably can't use the weapon it gives anyway.

And actually... Having learned that they're just measly straight paths with nothing on them just makes me question it more. So what was even the point of making them invisible in the first place? All it and the snow achieved was making me think there was more to it than there really was. They go out of their way to use an annoying gimmick nobody likes, and then don't even do anything notable with it?? Did they just not have any idea what they wanted Crystal Cave to be? At first it was infuriating; now I hate it for just being a disappointment.

Although on the plus side, I have a reliable source of Twinkling Titanite now and even though Seath is boring he isn't the worst of the Lord bosses (that dishonor easily goes to the Bed of Chaos).

[John]

ALMOST everything after Anor Londo is unfinished.
One invisible path in caves takes you to Blue Slab which is useful if you have high int.

[Luxy Wants Big Boom]

Ah. So I was right, I'm not going to use it. The character I'm using for this run is a Dex Pyromancer, so I have no use for Int on that one(aside from the time I had to level it up to get a certain Ring). Unless there's any merit to raising it in NG+ but I kinda doubt it.

[John]

Depends if you want to use spells to buff your weapons.
IMHO you're better off leveling dex to 40 (after 35 it starts to increase your casting speed, and stops after 45). Note that casting speed is not very significantly useful outside of PvP.
That being said you might consider leveling Faith and getting both Sunlight and Darkmoon blade since you're going to NG+

[Luxy Wants Big Boom]

Originally posted by John:

Depends if you want to use spells to buff your weapons.
IMHO you're better off leveling dex to 40 (after 35 it starts to increase your casting speed, and stops after 45). Note that casting speed is not very significantly useful outside of PvP.
That being said you might consider leveling Faith and getting both Sunlight and Darkmoon blade since you're going to NG+

Hm. Not a bad idea... Faith would add a nice set of options to my arsenal. From what I can tell I need to kill Gwyndolin for Sunlight Blade, right? Should I just go ahead and do that now before I kick off the Artorias stuff?

[deuceyd]

Lol this guy needs some srs git gud

[lancealot59]

Honestly at this point I just run through crystal caves in like 30 seconds don't even need orange signs or anything...it's just something you gotta go through/learn the first time or two and then it's never an issue again, similar to Bed of Chaos. Just how it is...don't quit the game at crystal caves of all areas, that would just be sad tbh and I know you're better than that.

[Luxy Wants Big Boom]

Originally posted by Deucey D:

Lol this guy needs some srs git gud

You're a little late there, bud.