Zweihander upgrade path

[Danté]

I just got my Zweihander to + 5 and I'd like to know what to infuse/ upgrade it to. Mainly a strenght/dex build, but I'm at the 27 str soft cap so I can put some points into other things now.

[ARSM™]

Fire then chaos

[CGI_Lantern]

Originally posted by Derunik:

I just got my Zweihander to + 5 and I'd like to know what to infuse/ upgrade it to. Mainly a strenght/dex build, but I'm at the 27 str soft cap so I can put some points into other things now.

Fire / chaos or lightning and you no need worry about stat scaling
Maybe normal upgarde if got to 50 strength...

I currently play as a mage so my occult zweihander just fine too...

[Halcius]

If you're going elemental upgrades you have 3- 9 wasted points in STR. Elemental upgrades remove strength scaling from the weapon. Lightning+5 Zweihander is 650 AR whether your str is 24 or 40. If you want your str to be useful, go +15 Zwei (not recommended) or if you have another major stat like faith it could be interesting to go Divine (for catacombs and RP) or Occult (to make bosses easier).

Chaos is considered the best upgrade path for the Zweihander, because when 2 handed you need only 18 str and 15 soft humanity to get and active AR of 689. This frees you to put your points in other places. I personally put my str at 24 for Zweihander builds so I can 1 hand it, with my talisman or a parry shield in the other hand. To really effectively use the weapon though, you want to catch people in the arc. That poise breaking power comes in the 2h r1s, not the 1 handed r1s.

[Kthulhu]

If you're going Quality (strength and dexterity), staying on the +15 path is best for most weapons.

[Danté]

Originally posted by Kthulhu:

If you're going Quality (strength and dexterity), staying on the +15 path is best for most weapons.

Yeah went for this path right before someone commented here. Thought I made a mistake, but I guess it's fine then. Honestly not enjoying DS1 at all, playing DS3 again atm.

[PinkKush]

Originally posted by djmarkymark1:

If you're going elemental upgrades you have 3- 9 wasted points in STR. Elemental upgrades remove strength scaling from the weapon. Lightning+5 Zweihander is 650 AR whether your str is 24 or 40. If you want your str to be useful, go +15 Zwei (not recommended) or if you have another major stat like faith it could be interesting to go Divine (for catacombs and RP) or Occult (to make bosses easier).

Chaos is considered the best upgrade path for the Zweihander, because when 2 handed you need only 18 str and 15 soft humanity to get and active AR of 689. This frees you to put your points in other places. I personally put my str at 24 for Zweihander builds so I can 1 hand it, with my talisman or a parry shield in the other hand. To really effectively use the weapon though, you want to catch people in the arc. That poise breaking power comes in the 2h r1s, not the 1 handed r1s.

16 str and 10 humanity.

[Halcius]

Originally posted by PinkKush:

Originally posted by djmarkymark1:

If you're going elemental upgrades you have 3- 9 wasted points in STR. Elemental upgrades remove strength scaling from the weapon. Lightning+5 Zweihander is 650 AR whether your str is 24 or 40. If you want your str to be useful, go +15 Zwei (not recommended) or if you have another major stat like faith it could be interesting to go Divine (for catacombs and RP) or Occult (to make bosses easier).

Chaos is considered the best upgrade path for the Zweihander, because when 2 handed you need only 18 str and 15 soft humanity to get and active AR of 689. This frees you to put your points in other places. I personally put my str at 24 for Zweihander builds so I can 1 hand it, with my talisman or a parry shield in the other hand. To really effectively use the weapon though, you want to catch people in the arc. That poise breaking power comes in the 2h r1s, not the 1 handed r1s.

16 str and 10 humanity.

Was there an update? Damn, my bad.

[PinkKush]

Originally posted by djmarkymark1:

Originally posted by PinkKush:

16 str and 10 humanity.

Was there an update? Damn, my bad.

When was it ever 18 str and 15 humanity? I've not heard of this noise, educate me.

[Halcius]

Originally posted by PinkKush:

Originally posted by djmarkymark1:

Was there an update? Damn, my bad.

When was it ever 18 str and 15 humanity? I've not heard of this noise, educate me.

I haven't played in bout 2, 3 months, but the 18 Str number I got from the old Giant Dad builds, admittedly I could be misremembering. 15 Humanity worked for me experimentally, I noticed reductions under that number when last I played. Besides, the humanity is the least important number because once you get into the online component humanity hovers between 99 and 90.