What SL is currently meta for PVP?

[chase]

My first character is at 123, and I messed up placing the Lordvessel before killing the Four Kings on NG+, so I'm looking into possibly starting over.

[Hunubul]

Depends on what you wanna do. If you wanna invade, ~SL100, if you wanna get invaded, ~SL110-120. Basically.

[undakovrist]

The PvP meta is 125. But with the amount of people recycling old memes and new people coming from DS3, there's a lot of activity between 100 and 120.

[Taco Cat]

The meta for all the games is 125 for no particular reason other than it's (generally) agreed upon in the community.

[undakovrist]

Originally posted by TacoCat:

The meta for all the games is 125 for no particular reason other than it's agreed upon in the community.

Isn't it 120 in DS3? It was early on at least. DS2 has no "real" meta because of SM but I recall 150 being pushed pretty hard. I have no idea about BB but I don't play that game for PvP.
125 in DS1 makes sense because most builds are usable without being too OP (aside from CB) and also letting you have enough health to not die in 1 backstab. 135 makes other builds work better against CB, but also kinda isn't limited enough in random PvP.

[Taco Cat]

Originally posted by undakovrist:

Originally posted by TacoCat:

The meta for all the games is 125 for no particular reason other than it's agreed upon in the community.

Isn't it 120 in DS3? It was early on at least. DS2 has no "real" meta because of SM but I recall 150 being pushed pretty hard. I have no idea about BB but I don't play that game for PvP.
125 in DS1 makes sense because most builds are usable without being too OP (aside from CB) and also letting you have enough health to not die in 1 backstab. 135 makes other builds work better against CB, but also kinda isn't limited enough in random PvP.

Nah it's 125 in DS3.
People will always try to push past the meta level, so misconceptions are expected. However it's understandable with DS2 and adaptability, though you can be OP in the arena at 125 if you have the right build.
Haven't done Bloodborne PvP either, but I hear it's 125, but I'm also seeing SL 100 builds (haven't looked into it much anyway).

[Hunubul]

DS3 had more brackets. Like there was the low level farron bracket, the SL80 bracket, the SL125 bracket and the SL150+ bracket.

I loved SL80 bracket best, because my poison+bleed build was actually usable, and because the HP to damage ratio was better (more HP, less damage compared to SL125). Sadly there were builds that were impossible to do at SL80, like mage and stuff. I had a pyro and a sorceress at SL125, loved playing them as well, but the balance felt off compared to SL80.

EDIT: In DS1 there is the twink bracket as well, so yeah.

[UrbanMech]

Originally posted by TacoCat:

The meta for all the games is 125 for no particular reason other than it's (generally) agreed upon in the community.

The meta later on dropped to 80 in DarkSouls 1.

I'm doing my characters at 80 for this game. I think it's a good level imo

[Halcius]

125 for most builds, you'll have the richest experience in the forrest or the Duke's Archives. New Londo and Anor Londo were great spots for the old 60-80 builds but I wasn't there for that experience.

[Knight Solair]

Originally posted by meezy f:

My first character is at 123, and I messed up placing the Lordvessel before killing the Four Kings on NG+, so I'm looking into possibly starting over.

90 and 125 are common meta levels, though there are lesser used ones like 150.


sl125 is most common because almost every build is viable at that level, allowing people to make builds without being too overpowered by being too high a sl with too many stats.

[undakovrist]

The only "metas" above 125 in DS1 are the 135 Tournament meta and 200 Forest meta, which isn't exactly popular. 200 is fun tho cause its just everyone backstabbing each other with Great Clubs, Murakumos, BKGAs, and Zweihanders

[SAYDEBAD]

Dark Souls sl 125
Dark Souls 2 sl 150/sm 1.700.000
Dark Souls 3 sl 120

[76561198847494313]

125 if you're min/maxing and do not like roleplaying, 135 max for unoptomized/Fasion Souls builds that need more END for armor that is heavier than optimized armor.