Does humanity level effect anything? Been reading conflicting docs

[RandalMcdaniel]

One website says humanity boosts stats all the way up to humanity lv99.

Another website said it only boosts stats up to 30

Anthoer website said it only boosts stats up to 10

Then a player said after the 1.05 update 10 is the max benefit.

Also. People said u would only get the benefit of increased item discovery if in human mode. But im hollow with 1 held humanity and my droprate is 150 so that buff is working

[Alariel]

It increases your item discovery up to 10 humanity.
You need it to get more damage with some chaos weapons ( Fury Sword )
Also increases your curse resist. ( helps in fight against Seath) This means up to 30.

[❌ Peath]

Well I am farming green titanite in depths and have 34 humanity. 210 item discovery.

Beside Item Discovery it is only usefull if you wield some chaos weapons, but scales with 10 humanity maximum.

[Sa†o]

Item discovery and softcap for defense at 10
Hardcap for defense at 30
Can go past it but with very diminishing returns, aka not worth to even think about.
I usually sit at 10 for item discovery and the most def boost, especially auxilliary defense stats like curse and poison resist.

[RandalMcdaniel]

Originally posted by Alariel:

It increases your item discovery up to 10 humanity.
You need it to get more damage with some chaos weapons ( Fury Sword )
Also increases your curse resist. ( helps in fight against Seath) This means up to 30.

Ok this is where the conflicting part comes in. The ds1 wiki page says this

Humanity's Effect on Resistance

Holding Humanity will increase the defenses of any player, up to 99 Humanity. Defenses from increasing your Humanity count by 1, is identical to leveling Attunement or Vitality 1 point, but without the benefits of more health or spell slots. Holding a high humanity count gives a huge increase in defenses for low level characters, but high level characters will benefit less, because of diminishing returns.

The numbers below are the increase in defenses for a Level 1? character, from 0 to 30 Humanity.
Humanity: 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10
Def: Phy/Mag/Fir/Lig: 1/1/1/2 3/2/3/3 4/4/4/5 5/5/5/6 7/6/6/8 8/8/8/9 9/9/9/10 11/10/10/12 12/11/11/13 13/13/13/15
Humanity: 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
Def: Phy/Mag/Fir/Lig: 15/14/14/16 16/15/15/18 17/16/16/19 19/18/18/21 20/19/19/22 21/20/20/24 23/21/21/25 24/23/23/27 25/24/24/28 27/25/25/30
Humanity: 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
Def: Phy/Mag/Fir/Lig: 28/26/26/31 29/28/28/33 31/29/29/34 32/30/30/35 33/31/31/37 34/33/32/38 36/34/34/40 37/35/35/41 38/36/36/43 40/37/37/44
Notes:

Defenses increase steadily from hold humanity.

[RandalMcdaniel]

So according to wiki page holding 30 humanity gives u 40/37/37/44 extra defense in all categories

If this is true, that is really dumb. Such a random mechanic

[Krono]

I'm not sure how exact it is compared to your soul level, but having Humanity does increase your defense.

And I'm not sure why it would be dumb. You're a human, so having more pieces of the dark soul "humanity" should make you stronger right? So it increases your defense

[Sa†o]

Originally posted by RandalMcdaniel:

So according to wiki page holding 30 humanity gives u 40/37/37/44 extra defense in all categories

If this is true, that is really dumb. Such a random mechanic

Yes and no.
Let me make it easier for you.

See humanity as defense stat.
Now we know that all stats in this game have a softcap, hardcap and finite cap, including defense. In other words, there are heavy diminishing returns the higher you go on any stat.

So the higher your defense is, the lower the ammount you get from carrying alot of humanity.

[Sa†o]

Watch this and you will pretty much get to know everything there is about defence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtifzlMBWw

[RandalMcdaniel]

Originally posted by Duero:

Watch this and you will pretty much get to know everything there is about defence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtifzlMBWw

I am so sick of steam. I clicked play on that video and it just buffers on an infinite loop and steam stops responding until i force close it

Then it says "Waiting for dark souls remastered to exit"

Now i have a dirty close on my brand new savegame. ♥♥♥♥ steam

[RandalMcdaniel]

Anyways, thanks so much for all your help guys